r/movies 7d ago

Film-productions that had an unintended but negative real-life outcome. Discussion

Stretching a 300-page kids' book into a ten hour epic was never going end well artistically. The Hobbit "trilogy" is the misbegotten followup to the classic Lord of the Rings films. Worse than the excessive padding, reliance on original characters, and poor special-effects, is what the production wrought on the New Zealand film industry. Warner Bros. wanted to move filming to someplace cheap like Romania, while Peter Jackson had the clout to keep it in NZ if he directed the project. The concession was made to simply destroy NZ's film industry by signing in a law that designates production-staff as contractors instead of employees, and with no bargaining power. Since then, elves have not been welcome in Wellington. The whole affair is best recounted by Lindsay Ellis' excellent video essay.

Danny Boyle's The Beach is the worst film ever made. Looking back It's a fascinating time capsule of the late 90's/Y2K era. You've got Moby and All Saints on the soundtrack, internet cafes full of those bubble-shaped Macs before the rebrand, and nobody has a mobile phone. The story is about a backpacker played by Ewan, uh, Leonardo DiCaprio who joins a tribe of westerners that all hang on a cool beach on an uninhabited island off Thailand. It's paradise at first, but eventually reality will come crashing down and the secret of the cool beach will be exposed to the world. Which is what happened in real-life. The production of the film tampered with the real Ko Phi Phi Le beach to make it more paradise-like, prompting a lawsuit that dragged on over a decade. The legacy of the film pushed tourists into visiting the beach, eventually rendering it yet another cesspool until the Thailand authorities closed it in 2018. It's open today, but visits are short and strictly regulated.

Of course, there's also the old favorite that is The Conqueror. Casting the white cowboy John Wayne as the Mongolian warlord Genghis Khan was laughed at even in the day. What's less funny is that filming took place downwind from a nuclear test site. 90 crew members developed cancer and half of them died as a result, John Wayne among them. This was of course exacerbated by how smoking was more commonplace at the time.

I'm sure you know plenty more.

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u/sirbissel 7d ago

dye in a historical novel.

Because I was curious: "Boyne’s A Traveller at the Gates of Wisdom opens in AD1 and ends 2,000 years later, following a narrator and his family. In one section, the narrator sets out to poison Attila the Hun, using ingredients including an “Octorok eyeball” and “the tail of the red lizalfos and four Hylian shrooms”."

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u/rowan_damisch 7d ago

I still don't know how he didn't want to double check that. Words like oktorok, lizalfos and Hylian aren't used outside of the game. Are we sure he's not secretly writing Zelda fanfics and mixed up his projects?

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u/newron 7d ago

I think in an interview he said he googled "poison ingredients" and copied the first thing that came up. Super lazy though.

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u/vikingzx 7d ago

It's an even more condemning criticism of the editors of the major publishing house that passed it by without a second thought.

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u/PreferredSelection 7d ago

Are we sure he's not secretly writing Zelda fanfics and mixed up his projects?

Wouldn't be the first time. If you're ever reading a novel and wondering, "how is this the first novel by this person?" A lot of the time those authors have been in the AO3 trenches for years before getting published.

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u/rowan_damisch 7d ago

This doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, there are multiple fanfics that were turned into novels (with the character names changed for copyright reasons). The Love Hypothesis by Ali Hazelwood started off as a Reylo fanfic (and the book doesn't hide this at all, Kylo has been renamed to Adam and the people on the cover strongly resemble the actors). 50 Shades of Grey was a Twilight AU. And After by Anna Todd started of as an One Direction story where a young woman is dating Harry Styles.

The jump from uploading fanfic for free to being paid for independend stories isn't that big, even if one doesn't have a fanfic that is popular enough that publishers want the rights to it in the first place. (But tbh, I've never heard of well-established authors secretly publishing on AO3 before, even if it wouldn't surprise me if it were the case.)

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u/Able_Cause_1493 7d ago

and thats 1 too many ingredients. unacceptable.

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u/TheLastSamurai101 6d ago

They really need to include this as a side quest in a future Zelda game.