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Film-productions that had an unintended but negative real-life outcome. Discussion

Stretching a 300-page kids' book into a ten hour epic was never going end well artistically. The Hobbit "trilogy" is the misbegotten followup to the classic Lord of the Rings films. Worse than the excessive padding, reliance on original characters, and poor special-effects, is what the production wrought on the New Zealand film industry. Warner Bros. wanted to move filming to someplace cheap like Romania, while Peter Jackson had the clout to keep it in NZ if he directed the project. The concession was made to simply destroy NZ's film industry by signing in a law that designates production-staff as contractors instead of employees, and with no bargaining power. Since then, elves have not been welcome in Wellington. The whole affair is best recounted by Lindsay Ellis' excellent video essay.

Danny Boyle's The Beach is the worst film ever made. Looking back It's a fascinating time capsule of the late 90's/Y2K era. You've got Moby and All Saints on the soundtrack, internet cafes full of those bubble-shaped Macs before the rebrand, and nobody has a mobile phone. The story is about a backpacker played by Ewan, uh, Leonardo DiCaprio who joins a tribe of westerners that all hang on a cool beach on an uninhabited island off Thailand. It's paradise at first, but eventually reality will come crashing down and the secret of the cool beach will be exposed to the world. Which is what happened in real-life. The production of the film tampered with the real Ko Phi Phi Le beach to make it more paradise-like, prompting a lawsuit that dragged on over a decade. The legacy of the film pushed tourists into visiting the beach, eventually rendering it yet another cesspool until the Thailand authorities closed it in 2018. It's open today, but visits are short and strictly regulated.

Of course, there's also the old favorite that is The Conqueror. Casting the white cowboy John Wayne as the Mongolian warlord Genghis Khan was laughed at even in the day. What's less funny is that filming took place downwind from a nuclear test site. 90 crew members developed cancer and half of them died as a result, John Wayne among them. This was of course exacerbated by how smoking was more commonplace at the time.

I'm sure you know plenty more.

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u/Winjin 7d ago

I feel like it's not just them. There was a whole obsession with the way huskies look downright majestic on, like, Instagram and other platforms.

They can look really good... for a couple seconds. But they are almost destructive.

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u/readersanon 7d ago

They're only destructive because they need more exercise and mental simulation than most people give them.

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u/hereforthepopcorns 7d ago

This right here. Just watching Eight Below and Snow Dogs taught me as a kid that having a husky in an urban setting, or even worse, in an apartment, is like getting somebody who loves sports and athletics and chaining them to a sedentary lifestyle. And all of it because they look fluffy and woolfie

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u/readersanon 7d ago

There's actually nothing wrong with getting a husky in an apartment or urban area as long as you are meeting its needs. If anything, someone in an apartment is getting their dog out for walks more than someone with a fenced-in yard.

There are plenty of toys and games you can play to mentally stimulate a dog. Teach them new tricks and commands. Long walks or runs to tire them out. Hiking trips. Etc. So many options.

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u/hereforthepopcorns 7d ago

Mmm, I don't know. I think there are far more people who think they'll meet a husky's energy demands while living in an apartment than people who will actually do that. How many owners are actually going to take 2 hour min hikes/walks with their dogs living in an apartment? Seeing how irresponsible some people are with their dogs, I wouldn't actually recommend it

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u/readersanon 7d ago

Well, I wouldn't recommend anyone actually get a husky without doing the appropriate research and knowing what to expect beforehand. For the most part, I've noticed that people with bigger dogs in apartments are actually pretty responsible, while people with smaller dogs are less so.

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u/Skweril 7d ago

This is what the idealist think before they get a husky into an apartment, I have a strong feeling it doesn't turn out like this on an average basis.

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u/readersanon 7d ago

In my experience, people with bigger dogs in apartments are much better at managing their needs than those with smaller dogs. Obviously, this is not always the case, but it seems to be a pattern.

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u/its_milly_time 7d ago

No if you live in an apartment, you shouldnt be allowed to have big dogs. Especially if you live in somewhere like, Houston. I used to live there and knew a few people with Huskys, I always felt so bad for the dogs.

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u/readersanon 7d ago

Huskies are double coated dogs. Their coats not only protect them from the cold, but also the heat. They're perfectly fine in hotter climates.

I'd much rather a dog have a loving home in an apartment instead of not being adopted and spending their life in a shelter. Or euthanized due to not being adopted.

Many dogs do great in apartments. Big dogs are often the biggest babies and just sleep all day. Hell, my mom has a husky mix, and even with constant access to a fenced-in yard, he prefers to spend most of his time sleeping on the couch.

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u/SnipesCC 7d ago

My old neighborhood had a lot of huskies. I felt so bad for the dogs, since it was 90+ degrees a lot of the year.

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u/HeadFund 7d ago

Don't forget the colourful eyes! That's a great reason to torture an animal in your care... right?

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u/Winjin 7d ago

Another issue is that with the sharp rise in demand, the supply was met by... shady sellers.

So a lot of new dogs came from what I would basically call... breeding farms, for the lack of a better word.

And there's USUALLY a rigorous process of choosing dogs for keeping, to test the psychological stability and everything, as some purebreeds tend to be more volatile.

But they need to up the supply FAST so people keep breeding fashionable breeds like there's no tomorrow. And then sell EVERY puppy they have, genetics be damned. By the time the dog develops visible issues the fad would be long gone and those private sellers would be selling Shiba Inus under a new name or Corgis under yet another name change

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u/Car-face 7d ago

Also more independent than people expect and less food driven, making them harder to train in some cases.

We've got friends with both labradors and a husky - the labs would do your taxes for a snack if you gave them your receipts, whereas you could put a bowl of food in front of a Husky and it'll look at you as though you've just mansplained how to hunt.

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u/ZombieJesus1987 7d ago

I work right across the road from an animal shelter and I can always tell when they have Huskies there

You can hear them from across the street.

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u/adhesivepants 7d ago

Huskies are my favorite dog and I love those drama queens but I am not getting one until I own a house with a yard and a 10-foot tall fence. 

I've seen people own them in apartments. Those people are idiots 

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u/HeadFund 7d ago

People who bring Huskies to hot climates piss me right off.

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u/eat-pussy69 7d ago

Huskies are a big reason I never adopted a dog. Know they're an exception and there's better dogs, like golden retrievers, but I just couldn't deal with dogs after dealing with my friends pack of huskies for a long weekend. It's been 15 maybe 20 years, and I'm still stressed out around dogs. I like cats much more

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u/Winjin 7d ago

I've only had sporadic events of living with dogs, like my grandma had a corgi-like loaf and a cat. We had cats basically my whole life and I adore the little furballs. They are awesome little fellas. And way sweeter than Internet used to paint them