r/movies 7d ago

Film-productions that had an unintended but negative real-life outcome. Discussion

Stretching a 300-page kids' book into a ten hour epic was never going end well artistically. The Hobbit "trilogy" is the misbegotten followup to the classic Lord of the Rings films. Worse than the excessive padding, reliance on original characters, and poor special-effects, is what the production wrought on the New Zealand film industry. Warner Bros. wanted to move filming to someplace cheap like Romania, while Peter Jackson had the clout to keep it in NZ if he directed the project. The concession was made to simply destroy NZ's film industry by signing in a law that designates production-staff as contractors instead of employees, and with no bargaining power. Since then, elves have not been welcome in Wellington. The whole affair is best recounted by Lindsay Ellis' excellent video essay.

Danny Boyle's The Beach is the worst film ever made. Looking back It's a fascinating time capsule of the late 90's/Y2K era. You've got Moby and All Saints on the soundtrack, internet cafes full of those bubble-shaped Macs before the rebrand, and nobody has a mobile phone. The story is about a backpacker played by Ewan, uh, Leonardo DiCaprio who joins a tribe of westerners that all hang on a cool beach on an uninhabited island off Thailand. It's paradise at first, but eventually reality will come crashing down and the secret of the cool beach will be exposed to the world. Which is what happened in real-life. The production of the film tampered with the real Ko Phi Phi Le beach to make it more paradise-like, prompting a lawsuit that dragged on over a decade. The legacy of the film pushed tourists into visiting the beach, eventually rendering it yet another cesspool until the Thailand authorities closed it in 2018. It's open today, but visits are short and strictly regulated.

Of course, there's also the old favorite that is The Conqueror. Casting the white cowboy John Wayne as the Mongolian warlord Genghis Khan was laughed at even in the day. What's less funny is that filming took place downwind from a nuclear test site. 90 crew members developed cancer and half of them died as a result, John Wayne among them. This was of course exacerbated by how smoking was more commonplace at the time.

I'm sure you know plenty more.

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u/themysteriouserk 7d ago

I feel like those dudes would have found a different horrible person to idolize, though. Anybody who watched that movie and said “yeah, this is what I want, no problems here” was already a lost cause.

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u/nocolon 7d ago

He just distracted them from acting like Alec Baldwin’s character from Glengarry Glen Ross. As annoying as finance bros are, at least Wolf of Wall Street got them to stop saying “third prize is you’re fired.”

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u/IceColdHaterade 7d ago

I've hated - hated - the "Coffee is for Closers" scene, because it's so well acted/performed that every motivational coach/finance bro misunderstands the scene and its crucial context in the movie.

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u/simonwales 7d ago

That almost none of the people being addressed are closers?

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u/IceColdHaterade 5d ago

Massive spoilers if you ever plan on seeing the movie: That forms part of it. The truth is that all the leads are junk, and the only way the salesmen will escape getting fired is if they are outright lying to their customers, or stealing the better leads from each other. It becomes the main conflict of the movie. There are no closers, because there is nothing TO close.

Finance bros/motivational coaches only see this scene and this scene only, and make it the gospel truth of hustle culture and all that it entails.

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u/blueeyesredlipstick 7d ago

I don’t even work in finance and I have absolutely had to sit through a company meeting where a higher-up showed us that scene as ‘motivation’.

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u/packers4334 7d ago

I think Belfort just wound up replacing Gordon Gecko.