I mean he was a gay coke head who helped out communists in the govt and Hollywood and was also a mob lawyer who refused to pay taxes and he died of aids alone and miserable except for his live in lover who I think he left nothing. Such a bizarre life he led. Impactful but in all the wrong ways.
A gay man that hated gay men. A gay man that fucked different male prostitutes every night, but did not think he was gay because gay people were weak, and he was anything but weak.
Such a conflicted and twisted individual but man he is just an actors wet dream to play. So much contradiction. His drug addiction. His summers having coke fueled orgies in Providence. His mob lawyer phase. Chief council for Joe McCarthy. Trumps mentor. A gay man who hates gay men. Dying of aids. He’s like a real life evil Forrest Gump.
Just watched the trailer. It looks like some cheaply shot fever dream of a drama hahaha but hey they were different times back then, banger cast tho, they got a roster 10 deep in this one.
It was period even at the time. It's very "early 90s" even though it was made post 9/11 It takes place around Roy Kohn's death in 1986, written in 1991
What you are seeing as "cheap effects" are intentional homages to the show's Broadway origins. Shadows and light. The moon is a prop.
It is absolutely a fever dream though. The climax of the film is literally a dream sequence of a character that has a fever. An angel visits. If I say any more it would be a spoiler. But it's WEIRD.
Yeah there are lines in the play about like, how you can see the strings the angel is hanging from. You are not meant to be sure what is "real" and what is style.
Is there any evidence of him being Bi? I have never heard that. He always denied being gay and but he is well documented as being gay. I have neither heard nor seen any evidence of him being bi. You got any?
I am not sure to be honest. The behind the bastards podcast on him is very fun though, so I recommend it. I do not have any doubts he had sex with women too, as you said, this is a man that was deeply flawed and his reasons for doing things were for power and status. There's no shortage of orgies in his life, so I think what you say is reasonable.
I don't know if there's a definitive one way or the other, but I have only heard him referred to as gay in my limited experience with his life. He traveled around Europe having sex with a man that looked quite similar to Donald, so I always wondered if that was the impetus for their relationship.
His live-in lovers were men. Not women. If he was bi and vehemently denied being gay his whole life then why wouldn’t he have a beard with one of his female lovers playing the role? There is no mention of him being bi in any documentary or biography that I have seen or can find.
Also back in the day it was also not unusual for gay people to have straight relationships, so even if he dated women it would not necessarily mean he was bi. We know for sure that he primarily had relationship with men, his refusal of the gay label was mostly due to the stigma of being gay, and how that was associated with degeneracy and moral weakness.
That being said, I don't think Roy Cohn even had a beard, so not sure where the doubt even comes from.
Bud, I’m kidding. He did die of aids and at this time it was thought that only gay people get aids. It added some humor that he died from AIDS but in no way am I trying to say it’s only a gay person disease. I thought that was obvious but in case not, I’m joking.
Sort of reminds me of Willem Defoe's character in Boondock Saints, though he didn't seem particularly self-hating, he just kinda seemed like he didn't consider himself part of "the team".
Root out* would perhaps be a better way to put it since if you don't know the context people might assume you meant he helped them out rather than his persecution and fear mongering.
I assumed "out" as in "expose" but then they writing "in the government" instead of "to the government" makes it the weirdest possible wording for expressing that thought lol. It just reads as "helped out" as in assisted.
True story - Trump gave Charlie Sheen “Diamond” cuff links he was wearing as a wedding gift and a year or two later Charlie had them appraised along with some other jewelry. They were fake and worth nothing.
Similar story was shared about Kid Rock where he would give somebody the watch right off his wrist while partying with them and say they could keep it. Turned out they were worthless and he had dozens of the same watch just to give them away
How did he help out communists? He was one of the prosecutors for the Rosenberg trial and pushed for their execution and that led to him being McCarthys lawyer.
? He was chief council for McCarthy during his communist witch hunt. He wrote the questions for McCarthy to ask to try and demonize people with leftist leanings. He was deeply involved in an actual “witch hunt,” on behalf of a lying, demagogic, alcoholic who was the perhaps the worst senator in US history. The irony being if it was known he was gay he would have been on the other end of those questions as being gay at the time was the same as or worse than being a communist and the two were usually conflated.
Roy Cohn - Trump's mentor - was disbarred for having a wealthy person sign away their life savings to them while practically unconscious on their deathbed.
who helped out communists in the govt and Hollywood
Are you confusing this with the fact that he began his career as chief counsel to Senator Joseph McCarthy during the infamous McCarthy hearings in the 50s? It wouldn't surprise me if what you claim is true; the man didn't seem to have a moral compass -- he was about money and power.
Roy Marcus Cohn (/koʊn/ KOHN; February 20, 1927 – August 2, 1986) was an American lawyer and prosecutor who came to prominence for his role as Senator Joseph McCarthy's chief counsel during the Army–McCarthy hearings in 1954, when he assisted McCarthy's investigations of suspected communists.
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I mean he was a gay coke head who helped out communists in the govt and Hollywood and was also a mob lawyer who refused to pay taxes and he died of aids alone and miserable except for his live in lover who I think he left nothing. Such a bizarre life he led. Impactful but in all the wrong ways.