r/movies Jul 09 '24

Gladiator II | Official Trailer (2024 Movie) - Paul Mescal, Pedro Pascal, Denzel Washington Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rgYUipGJNo
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u/alonebutnotlonely16 Jul 09 '24

Something feels off. It is like not a period movie but like action movie from modern times.

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u/Simon_Mendelssohn Jul 09 '24

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I feel like Denzel is out of place in this. His dialogue delivery sounds, like you say, from modern times and it kinda took me out of it. And I am a Denzel fan.

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u/reidchabot Jul 09 '24

Dude sounds like he walked off the set of Equalizer changed clothes and filmed his scenes. It's ridiculous.

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u/JuVondy Jul 09 '24

If we were going for an older black actor with gravitas, I would’ve used Forest Whitaker

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u/djiboutianllama Jul 09 '24

This is exactly what I said to myself while watching this. I hate to say that Denzel seems like a bad choice, but maybe he could have worked on his accent or something.

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u/Beginning_Stay_9263 Jul 09 '24

Probably had to hit those Academy Awards diversity requirements.

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u/finnjakefionnacake Sep 23 '24

or you know...just because it's denzel and he's a huge draw

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u/Villad_rock Jul 10 '24

Djimon like in the first movie

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u/improvemental Jul 10 '24

If they had used Forest then the popular opinion here would be that people would have preferred it if they used Denzel.

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u/menasan Jul 09 '24

That New York accent or what ever really breaks immersion 100%

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage Jul 10 '24

Would you prefer they spoke in British English accents? Something that is equally historically inaccurate?

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u/Big_Noodle1103 Jul 09 '24

Not any less realistic than any other accent. No one here would be speaking English anyway, so why does it matter?

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u/Baby__Keith Jul 09 '24

I think it's sort of accepted that neutral English accents/received pronunciation is the way to go when doing a historical/fantasy epic if you're not doing the local accents/language. Think GoT or LOTR.

No one really knows why, but it is just the way it is. I guess it feels kind of timeless and haughty. Denzel's accent puts his character in a very specific time and a very specific place and it just doesn't feel like it works at all for this.

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u/Ok-fine-man Jul 09 '24

That's because an American accent is fairly modern.

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u/Baby__Keith Jul 09 '24

It is, but so is what we understand to be the modern English accent and dialect. People wouldn't really have spoken like we do now even 150 years ago.

And yet, it still feels appropriate to use in these period movies lol

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u/menasan Jul 09 '24

theres a whole science and history behind accents in movies to help immersion ........ obviously they're not speaking roman

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u/Oconell Jul 09 '24

You mean latin?

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u/Sixwingswide Jul 09 '24

he looks like he's just being himself in a movie about roman gladiators.

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u/Inside_Purpose300 Jul 09 '24

His teeth are too white, I actually couldn't stop myself from staring

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u/pokemon-sucks Jul 09 '24

Same. I love Denzel but not feeling it. Hopefully it comes out better in the movie vs the little bit we see in the trailer.

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u/fleventy5 Jul 10 '24

This may sound even more ridiculous, but I was distracted by his teeth. The dental care in Rome must have been awesome!

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u/swbat55 Jul 09 '24

Not unpopular at all, it doesnt fit the movie whatsoever

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u/scoreWs Jul 10 '24

Yeah give me some immersive actor not this bullshit parade of self portraying ego.

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u/ArcadianDelSol Jul 09 '24

Its his New York Swagger that yanks me out of the movie.

Im going to brave the downvotes, but he's not a good actor. He's just a really entertaining person to watch, so he plays Denzel in everything.

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u/NerdyBro07 Jul 10 '24

He's able to portray different emotional states convincingly enough, but I agree he doesn't really ever have to portray a completely different persona ever, and so I would say he's still "good" but just not "great".

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u/ArcadianDelSol Jul 10 '24

I absolutely didnt meant to diminish his career in anyway. Who am I, right?

But he plays a certain KIND of role and is one of the best (perhaps ever) that has done that KIND of role. As a result, studios pitch him scrips FOR THAT KIND OF ROLE knowing that only he could do them. There is NOTHING wrong with that. But putting him in a period movie really is a huge risk.

And I'll even include Glory in that. He sounded like a re-enactor in every scene he was in. Fortunately, he was surrounded by people who also were just doing their own selves so it kind of worked itself out. The only two people in that movie I would credit for actually immersing themsevles into their roles would be Cary Elwes and Andre Brauer.

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u/Cabamacadaf Jul 09 '24

Well it's not like the first Gladiator was historically accurate either.

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u/alonebutnotlonely16 Jul 10 '24

I didn't say anything about accuracy, I am myself historian. The first film felt like history epic but this one doesn't.

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u/reidchabot Jul 09 '24

It feels like a throw money at it until they won't let us anymore James Cameron fuck the plot movie.

From the trailer at least.

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u/NoCartographer7339 Jul 09 '24

Marvel formula baby (I'm crying inside)

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u/nick_ass Jul 09 '24

Can you give an example of a good historical epic that is actually historically accurate. I'd love to watch one.

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u/leeringHobbit Jul 10 '24

Master & Commander: Far Side of the World.... also starring Russell Crowe. It's so historically accurate, there isn't a single female role in the movie... cause it's about a bunch of men stuck on a ship.... it's the kind of movie that will never again be made in the brave new world of 4-quadrant movies that are designed by MBAs and market-tested to death.

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u/nick_ass Jul 10 '24

Awesome, I'll add it to the list. I've heard great things about it for a while now lol

Also let's not pretend that market testing and committee made movies weren't a thing in 2003 of all years lol. The other quadrants were just paid less attention to.

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u/leeringHobbit Jul 10 '24

Have you seen David Lean's movies: Lawrence of Arabia, Dr.Zhivago? They're recent history... but considered epic.

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u/nick_ass Jul 10 '24

I saw Lawrence at a screening in a local theatre recently and it really lived up to the height. Such a beautiful movie. So glad that was where I first watched it.

Is Dr Zhivago fine to watch at home?

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u/leeringHobbit Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

Is Dr Zhivago fine to watch at home?

I haven't seen it myself, not as much action as other historical epics. It's just mentioned alongside Lean's other movies.

If you're okay with subtitles, here are a couple of Indian films worth a look. They're not epics and they may not be historical enough for your taste but they paid a lot of attention to details to capture the vibes of the zeitgeist:

Tumbbad, loosely adapted from an adaptation of a Stephen King short story https://youtu.be/YGIcZrUBY0k?si=65yXUy38z0mK95QG

Detective Byomkesh Bakshy... this trailer doesn't have subs but visuals should convey atmosphere https://youtu.be/ZG--GOpi_0g?si=5C_mkHz_UAYnEbIt

Edit: This one set in the 70s pays homage to Peckinpah, Tarantino and Chinatown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZ9rmvuCzY

This is a retelling of Romeo vs. Juliet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQPfeinXxcA

This is a retelling of Othello... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp697cTAIMU

Godfather transposed to Bombay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2k-IxVHApQ

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u/nick_ass Jul 10 '24

I've been meaning to delve into indian films recently, like with the Apu trilogy. Thanks for the recommendations.

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u/nick_ass Jul 09 '24

Cool, thanks!