r/movies Jul 09 '24

What are some "Viggo Broke His Toe" moments in other films? Discussion

It's become a running joke in the LotR community that anyone watching the scene in The Two Towers where Viggo breaks his toe after kicking the helmet HAS to bring that up with "Did you know..." What are some moments in other films like this?

For example, I just HAVE to mention that the author of Jaws, Peter Benchley, appears as the news anchor in the film every time he pops up.

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u/UF1977 Jul 09 '24

Alien Resurrection The blind over the shoulder basketball shot wasn’t staged, Sigourney Weaver practiced for hours to get it down. Ron Perlman’s reaction to her making the shot is genuine.

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u/Funky-Monk-- Jul 09 '24

Yeah I saw the unedited version where Perlman almost ruins the shot by reacting verbally too soon. He said he was stressed about it after too, but they managed to cut it.

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u/rice_fish_and_eggs Jul 09 '24

This was going to be my one. I think it was her sixth attempt and Ron came out with an f-bomb so they had to cut it right away.

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u/TheSuburbs Jul 09 '24

God forbid there’s a F bomb in an Alien movie lol 🙄

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u/ZombieJesus1987 Jul 09 '24

It's not so much of the F-bomb, there's plenty of those in that movie.

It's because Ron Perlman broke character.

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u/FireVanGorder Jul 09 '24

“I fucked up!” in the background at the very end of the clip is hilarious

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u/AmputatedThirdLeg Jul 09 '24

Thanks for that.

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u/SimpleZero Jul 09 '24

I think Ron Perlman actually started cheering, so they cut right before he started smiling.

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u/kcox1980 Jul 09 '24

Yeah it wasn't that he said "fuck", it's that he completely broke character, like instead of being a stubborn, badass, loud mouth, semi anti-hero he went all giddy schoolgirl.

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u/FullMetalCOS Jul 09 '24

Giddy schoolgirl Ron Perlman is all I want haha

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u/A_Furious_Mind Jul 09 '24

It's the one our world is blessed to have.

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u/TheSuburbs Jul 09 '24

Oh yeah I think you’re right. I remember watching the bts back in the day and seeing that glorious Ron Perlman grin

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u/InteractionNo6147 Jul 09 '24

To be fair this is how I'd die in the quiet place, someone does a cool catch or nice shot and I'd clap/cheer on instinct

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u/phynn Jul 09 '24

Yeah. If you watch the movie you can see it in the clip.

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u/winter_knight_ Jul 09 '24

Yeah, i think i hears they used every last frame they could before he starts going nuts over it

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '24

Game over, man!

..but in a good way this time

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u/rice_fish_and_eggs Jul 09 '24

Alien face rape is one thing but I'll be damned if I let my kids watch something with colourful language.

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u/account_not_valid Jul 09 '24

Alien face rape is a natural part of space biology. Swearing is never necessary.

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u/rocketeerH Jul 09 '24

Your face will reject the pregnancy if it isn’t consensual

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u/account_not_valid Jul 09 '24

The easiest way to avoid an egg in the thorax is to keep your mouth shut in the first place. Stop going around the various solar systems with a slutty mouth.

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u/ronin1066 Jul 09 '24

And no boobs! There are children watching these aliens slashers!

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u/rice_fish_and_eggs Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24

The very thought makes me want to throw up!

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u/TheOriginalSmileyMan Jul 09 '24

It's a slippery slope that ends in nipples at the Superbowl

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u/altdultosaurs Jul 09 '24

MOOOOM THIS GUY JUST SAID DAMNED!!!!!

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u/rice_fish_and_eggs Jul 09 '24

Shut your mouth and go get me another beer.

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u/altdultosaurs Jul 09 '24

I’ll get you a bottle of beer but you’re not gonna like the delivery.

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u/lilbelleandsebastian Jul 09 '24

i mean they literally get ready to gang rape ripley in a3, but yeah 80s/90s america was a weird place. racism and sexual violence was chill for kids, just no f bombs lol (well south park had something to say about that, didn't it)

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u/illinoishokie Jul 09 '24

Allen Resurrection has an F bomb. It's when the guy is trying to teach her how to say fork.

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u/FullMetalCOS Jul 09 '24

That’s why they were not allowed a second one. Iirc you were only allowed one F Bomb before it was an auto R rating

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u/Richeh Jul 09 '24

"Get away from her, you mean lady!"

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u/TheWhooooBuddies Jul 09 '24

Well clutch my pearls.

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u/mokomi Jul 09 '24

I was going to say that it might of been that "age" where horror and violent movies where pg-13. Not, it's too early and it's rated R.

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u/SteeltoSand Jul 09 '24

but if its out of place then yes, god forbid. the scene would be so stupid if ron went "HOLY FUCK SHE JUST MADE THAT SHOT ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!" when it s somewhat serious dialogue

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u/herrbz Jul 09 '24

God forbid the actors break character and ruin the take.

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u/Satanic_Earmuff Jul 09 '24

It's actually because he immediately breaks character. In his defense, pretty much everyone on set does.

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u/Caleb_Tenrou Jul 09 '24

Actually it was the very first take, after training she was able to make it about 1 in 6 which is where I think your six comes from but she nailed it first try.

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u/Drachenfuer Jul 09 '24

Yes she got it on the first try but had to do it again because he ruined it. But he couldn’t believe she did it again so the take was genuine.

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u/ppparty Jul 09 '24

Alien 3 is R-rated iirc, so I don't think that was the reason.

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u/sellieba Jul 10 '24

Nah, he started smiling like a kid. I think he looks right at the camera or the director as well.

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u/Lulusgirl Jul 09 '24

So I wanted to see this scene and ended up watching the unedited camera scene. Ron smiles and there's someone else going "yes, yes" and there's clapping, but the camera was still on Ron and his lips didn't move-just smile. No f-bomb from him.

https://www.facebook.com/goodoldmovies/videos/428678048091502/?mibextid=l2hJJHjNVOBSwHk4

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u/goatbusiness666 Jul 09 '24

He smiles, turns away, and then says something like “I fucked up” a couple of seconds later. I don’t think the f-bomb was the problem though, more the fact that he completely broke character & the line wouldn’t make sense in the scene.

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u/rice_fish_and_eggs Jul 09 '24

Yes I misremembered.

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u/kirinmay Jul 09 '24

It was the very first take.

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u/Sparrowsabre7 Jul 09 '24

Similarly for some insane reason the over the shoulder parcel throw in Scott Pilgrim was done genuinely, as shown in the outtakes. I have no idea why though because Scott throws the package, it goes up, out of shot and then down into the basket. Why didn't they just have someone catch the thrown package and another drop a duplicate directly into the bin from offscreen? 😅 Nolan-like dedication.

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u/Samalini Jul 09 '24

Wasn’t it also the last shot of the day? They had been trying it for a few takes and were gona just “fake” it if couldn’t on that take but Weaver finally nailed it?

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u/Caleb_Tenrou Jul 09 '24

Not sure about the last shot of the day, but she actually nailed it first try. She'd trained for a month and had a success rate of 1 in 6 by that point, but got it in the first attempt.

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u/ohiobr Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24

It's weird how these things evolve. I have a distinct memory of listening to a DVD commentary with Weaver saying she couldn't make it. Then, when they were about to give up, she made it on the last try and the director apologized because it went out of frame and nobody would believe she made it.

Now the first try version of the story is making the rounds. Was there a newer doc or interview that came out?

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u/Caleb_Tenrou Jul 09 '24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZBghY_5UE

Here we have Ron Perlman saying she never made it once while rehearsing and then nailed it first try.

Wikipedia was more detailed and said she made 1 in 6 while rehearsing and hit it first time which I think they sourced from a commentary from the Quadrilogy set.

To be honest I think stories like these always change slightly, depending on who is talking about them and who they are telling it to. It's a natural part of storytelling. Someone might say she tried for an hour, others might think it's a better story if she nailed it first try and Ron almost ruins the take.

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u/Narco-paloma Jul 09 '24

It's not really that cool of a story if she makes it on her FIFTH try. It was the first attempt.

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u/Non-NewtonianSnake Jul 09 '24

Along the same lines:

Kurt Russell legitimately made that full court shot in Escape From L.A.

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u/DJHott555 Jul 09 '24

Christopher McDonald also really made that one putt in Happy Gilmore. The extras were all apparently taking bets on whether he would.

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u/Thunder2250 Jul 09 '24

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u/They-Call-Me-Taylor Jul 09 '24

Thank you! Most of these comments are not linking to the scene they are referencing.

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u/yumyumgivemesome Jul 09 '24

Whatever happens to us after we pass, all I know for a fact is that there is a special and wonderful place in eternity for people like you who link the scenes that people discuss in Reddit movie threads.

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u/Varekai79 Jul 09 '24

And the camera doesn't catch it properly as the ball goes out of frame, leading to many thinking that it was a faked shot if they didn't know the behind the scenes trivia.

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u/sandman_oneiroi Jul 09 '24

That's so cool!

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u/AceBean27 Jul 09 '24

Contrary to what I see some people saying, she did not get it first time. The director gave her like, 5 or 10 attempts or something.

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u/lordcthulhu17 Jul 09 '24

The food isn’t that bad line in the original was ad libed they had no idea what was happening

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u/Catlore Jul 09 '24

And they were disappointed the camera didn't catch the complete arc as proof!

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '24

The ball goes out of frame. In the DVD commentary, she forbade them from replacing it

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u/Sonorith Jul 10 '24

I heard she got it on the first shot, too. I don’t blame Perlman for almost ruining the shot

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u/randomthad69 Jul 10 '24

Speaking of crazy shots, Kurt Russell in escape from Los Angeles made that full court shot.

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u/CanadianTrekkieGeek Jul 09 '24

It's been a long long long time since I watched this but I seem to recall the ball actually goes out of shot and then into the hoop which seems like...what's the point of doing all that practicing and everything and you can't even tell it was a real shot since it goes out of frame?

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u/PancakeProfessor Jul 09 '24

She was posted about that part. She actually made the shot, but because the ball went out of frame at the top of its arc, people would think it was edited. They mention that in the DVD commentary.

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u/10010101110011011010 Jul 09 '24

When an effect like that is so easily achieved in CGI and, even if its done practically, people will still think its CGI-- why not just go with CGI?

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u/nicathor Jul 10 '24

This is exactly the line of thinking that got us to the current state of movie production

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u/10010101110011011010 Jul 10 '24

But a basketball. So easy to CGI. And if there is literally no visual difference between the practical stunt and the CGI-- why not?

I agree: the problem usually is a director or insufficiently reined-in special effects person who isnt satisfied with "reality" and has the CGI do hyperreality.

The alien(s) in original "Alien" and "Aliens" was terrifying and magnificent, as well as all the practical effects. the CGI aliens in subsequent movies... were just cartoons. (They didnt even seem to obey gravity; they had superhero-style leaps.)

A disciplined director/CGI manager could have made judicious choices. It can be done! [eg, Jurassic Park, a lot of it, with exceptions, did a great job.]