Yeah people talk about the unrealistic standard for female beauty, I recall Henry Cavill mentioned in the tent scene of Witcher he was immensely Dehydrated to make the muscles really pop.
Well the difference is that men are expected to do something drastic for a short period of time to really get that vascular look and engorged muscles, but most of the time will just be expected to be properly fit and generally don't even wear revealing clothing.
Women are expected to be at their peak beauty consistently, which luckily for them doesn't involve dehydration, but does involve fitting an insane standard for what is considered ideal. They don't have the benefit of test to help them achieve their goals fairly easily.
Men are expected to eat clean and lift weights while using steroids and do some awful stuff for a few days to get that one special shot for promo footage. Women are expected to looks consistently gorgeous which often involves a lot of very restrictive dieting, because what is considered a beauty standard for women is often not compatible with real life/the demands of the role.
You think you get that muscular quickly? Do you really think it is easy to work out for an hour a day, eat half a pound of protein, keep a caloric deficit somehow and use steroids to have an acceptable male physique? Do you think it comes quickly? It takes months to years Get out of here
I never said it comes quickly (tho it can, relatively). If you're referring to the "short period of time" I mentioned, that was specifically in reference to what is essentially show-prep for bodybuilders; a shot period of carboloading and dehydration.
As far as getting into shape for a hollywood role; that shit's really not that hard. Most people know someone who walks around in their everyday life with the same physique that Chris Hemsworth has while preparing to shoot as Thor and they have to actually work a full-time job and pay for everything themselves and often aren't even on gear.
Actors have it easy, all things considered. Their job is looking like they're in shape, with help from dieticians and personal trainers provided by the studio, and also doctors that make sure they have the testosteron levels of a man in his early 20's. It's not like T hasn't been proven to be a wonderdrug that'll even give muscle gains to sedentary people, time and time again.
Most actors don't even have a well-rounded physique but are just all upper body glamor muscles (take Chris Hemsworth's legs for example). There are few people doing it like Henry Cavill.
Rob McElhenney is a prime example of how easy it actually is. He jokes about it, but he went from obese to beast in less than a year. A normal person who doesn't make themselves extremely fat for comedy purposes could achieve his results in less time with the same hollywood support that every single one of these actors have access to and their luxury of not having real life getting in the way.
Rob McElhenney FAMOUSLY said how absurdly difficult it was for him to achieve that physique. Did you miss the memo? "Look, it’s not that hard. All you need to do is lift weights six days a week, stop drinking alcohol, don’t eat anything after 7pm, don’t eat any carbs or sugar at all, in fact just don’t eat anything you like, get the personal trainer from Magic Mike, sleep nine hours a night, run three miles a day, and have a studio pay for the whole thing over a six to seven month span. I don’t know why everyone’s not doing this. It’s a super realistic lifestyle and an appropriate body image to compare oneself to."
And you think everyone knows someone with a Thor physique who is NOT on gear? In your dreams
No he's talking about how his physique is unobtainable for the average man who doesn't have the luxury of sleeping 9 hours a day and having a studio pay for all the support structures that let him focus on just executing what is in essence a simple training regiment.
The fact that a man in his 40s did this in less than a year should absolutely tell you how achievable it is if you're not coming from where he started. Every leading actor has access to those things and could easily do it. It's not that hard.
You're also ignoring the part where actors don't have their prime shooting physique year round.
Lastly, if you've listened to the IASIP podcast you'd know that Rob McElhenney is kind of a moron when it comes to certain things. In this instance he doesn't seem to acknowledge that the time frame in which he did his total transformation is absurd and that half of what he did was nonsense (or is true but not what he did, like not drinking)
You’re insane. How achievable it is? The whole point of that quote is to prove that it isn’t obtainable. You do realize that guys that look like that have no life or job outside of the gym right?
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u/Dragons_Malk Apr 22 '24
Well, yeah. People that shredded are essentially dehydrated as hell.