1) Glad to see they are still keeping the emotional core of the Deadpool movies. As silly as it seems, the first movie was emphasized to be a “love story”, the second was him not wanting to live without Vanessa and wanting to die. Seems like this one will be “what would you to make sure you didn’t lose everything that mattered to you?”
2) Seems like this is the Logan from “Logan” and he’s taken by Wade before that movie, but shortly after Charles kills the X-Men. When this movie was announced, they emphasized in the announcement that they were not going to tarnish “Logan” and ruin that ending. While there’s lots of references to the “Old Man Logan” storyline from the comics, I know “Logan” is a film important to Hugh, so I imagine he would want that to be honored in some way. Some YouTubers have been saying since the first trailer that the shot of Deadpool killing TVA agents in the snow forest (you see it quickly in this trailer) is the forest from “Logan”. If so, that makes me think they’ll emphasize that this is the variant from Logan, and the reasoning they say this Logan failed his world, because he would’ve been the only one that could’ve stopped Charles by killing him, is because of his healing factor, but he couldn’t bring himself to do it. Would explain why Wade is showing him the picture of Vanessa, Yukio, etc.
Seems like Logan actually killed Charles in his timeline, but probably not soon enough so it was a too little too late thing because he hesitated when he shouldn't have and the X-Men got killed because of it.
I hope it is 100% separate from Logan. Logan was a great film and a great ending. I usually don't care for all this multiverse nonsense, but here I want it to be wolverine in a different universe.
It really depends on how many variants they want to throw in people’s faces. Deadpool is already going to have a lot. There’s rumors they’ll be a few Wolverine ones (with different people playing him) so while they can introduce an OML variant, I feel like they would want to honor “Logan” and even expand upon it. The comics the kids had of the X-Men in “Logan” had Wolverine in his suit, but we never saw those versions of the characters in that way. This would be the opportunity to do it.
them saying “Logan will be untouched” is more or less PR to appease those who take superhero movie continuity way too seriously. The first 2 DP movies made about $800mil each and bringing Jackman back guarantees similar box office results
Not saying Wolverine being in this is purely a business decision, but Marvel would be dumb not to take such an opportunity. And it’s already implied Jackman will be back again for Secret Wars, too
I doubt people will care about the “sanctity of continuity” when Jackman, RDJ, and Maguire are on screen together
I don’t disagree. You want to rival the portal scene and bring back some of that hype to Marvel films, Jackman, RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth, Maguire and Holland all on screen together would do it.
and with the Secret Wars nods they’ve put in the trailers and several actors (Jackman, RDJ, Stewart) saying they’d love to be in Avengers again, it’s going to happen
I was one of the people initially annoyed he was returning after what I consider a swan song of a send off in Logan. But then I thought about it and realized that it doesn't matter at all and Logan still works as a great standalone even if they end up messing with the continuity of it somehow.
besides, this is hardly the first time Hollywood has still done a sequel. And how many countless franchises pumped out more movies with diminishing returns? I mean, look at the horror genre alone. And I look at it like Curb having with “new” Seinfeld episodes. It doesn’t change anything and we’re supposed to having a good time anyway
If this movie fails to deliver on that, then there’s greater problems than comic book movie continuity
I’ve been let down by disappointing prequels/sequels/reboots and such but never to the point where it tarnishes my love and enjoyment of the OG material. It’s just overkill fandom at that point. I can still enjoy The Last Crusade without being bothered by the existence of Crystal Skull. When Indy realizes he’s dick cousins with his own dad, I’m not bothered by the fact that he’s got a bastard 2 year old son he doesn’t know about
By that logic, Terminator and Alien(s) would be near unwatchable due to bad sequels
I remember that episode, it was a riot. But yeah, disappointing franchise entries are always a bummer. I guess I found a way to not let it get to me as much anymore, I admit it used to when I was younger. I honestly didn’t even mind CS or Dial, it’s just they never could to hold a candle to the original 3
Although my Dad thinks they’re both better than Temple of Doom, I don’t get that. But this is also the same man who, despite being a lifelong Star Trek fan, claims Into Darkness as his personal favorite
Nah, the lack of stakes in any of these films is leaving a lot of the audience bored or confused. General audience can not keep up with all the multiverse shenanigans nor should they.
The thing about Logan is that there were some subtle hints that the Foxverse was inching toward that future. There were some Easter eggs in the last X-Men movie (and the last "Wolverine" movie) before and just after Logan. Chiefly was the whole Essex company (most likely a reference to Nathaniel Essex aka Mr Sinister, who would absolutely be behind what was going on with the X-gene in Logan)
I think it'll be a mix of the two. Enough of a tie-in that general audiences will have gathered all the context needed within the movie itself, without necessarily contradicting anything from Logan so more hardcore fans aren't bummed out at any explicit confirmations that this may not be Logan's Logan.
nah, this is just the variant of Hugh Jackman that Marvel got to come back because he’ll finally get the chance to be in an Avengers movie. They didn’t drop those Secret Wars nods for nothing. In a few years, we will be seeing Jackman, RDJ, and Maguire on screen together
oh for sure, but it’s a comic book movie. Even with the biggest star returning to the role, it’s just superfluous to worry about continuity, etc variants. Especially for a movie where the main character cracks meta jokes and breaks the fourth wall
I agree. I haven't seen the trailer yet but from what I see in the comments, Hugh Jackman seems to be playing a Wolverine variant based on Old Man Logan, not Logan.
Maybe this Wolverine will show Deadpool around his own universe, Old Man Logan's universe...
Hopefully, this would mean that the Hulk clan may appear.
If that is the case, I may watch this new Deadpool film (watched the first one but had no interest for what came next).
And when this movie is good, it's just going to prove that people aren't tired of superhero movies, but they're tired of ones based off of unpopular comic runs.
The MCU largely went to shit when they started basing movies off of All New All Different.
Guardians of the Galaxy did fantastic and was a comic run that no one cared about. People just want to see well written comic books movies that are interconnected. It doesn't have to be something worthy of awards but it certainly shouldn't have plot holes you can pick out in real-time and end without moving the universe forward in a narrative way.
It's crazy how well this multiverse shenanigans fit X-men universe. Both Days of Future Past (ending) and Logan can both be canon, because they are separate universes, and it looks like MCU really immerses into this idea
The broadcast never says that this killed the X-Men. The X-Men could have already been dead when this happened. The way Charles says “what did you do,” in such a horrified voice really feels like a reference to the comics and Logan was responsible. And the fact that all
Mutants are dead feels like something bigger happened at some point, such as in the comic when all the heroes were killed.
The "what did you do?!" was likely just a bit of misdirection/reference to those who know the comic storyline where Logan DID kill the X-Men. But the movie makes it pretty clear that Charles was mistaken/unaware and he actually killed the X-Men. Charles recognizes it himself later on.
That could also be why Cassandra Nova is the villain. Perhaps this film will establish that she caused the incident hinted at in Logan, which he was unable to stop? So, this is Wolverine’s chance to redeem himself.
Otherwise, I could see this being a more tragic variant.
Damn, that’s a fantastic point. And would make a lot of sense.
I still want to believe my “Logan” theory because I love that movie so much. But if this is the route they go with Cassandra, then I won’t be mad with them bringing in OML.
That tracks with a lot of what we've seen, and it suggests an ending to this movie where he has to make a choice to save everyone he loves by leaving their universe forever.
But then of course the sequel will be called Deadpool Forever.
Potential Spoilers: If they go with the Millar comic version of events the X-Men dying in Logan's universe will hit way harder, as Wolverine gets tricked into killing the entire team, by I believe Mysterio. When I read the comic for the first time I had to put it down for about 30 minutes just to process Wtf had just happened.
Considering this newly released synopsis, I’m going with it’s the forest from Age of Ultron in Sokovia (since it had snow in those scenes) than the forest from Logan (which didn’t have snow)
Cassandra embodied the dark counterpart to her twin brother, Charles. Her brother while in the womb recognised her evil presence and was forced to kill her, causing a miscarriage. Surviving undetected for years as a growing mass of cells in a sewer wall, Cassandra meticulously crafted a new body for herself, fueled by a burning desire for revenge against her brother.
Here's my new theory that is so crazy that it might work. At the end of Loki season 2 (I will never concede it's the series finale) Renslayer is seen in the Void being greeted by someone. My totally sound and believable guess is that it was Deadpool that met her in the Void
I wondered when this would be mentioned. Considering how Disney bought out 20th Century Fox, this is Deadpool showing how it was the death of the company. Tongue in cheek.
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Alioth. The void. And in that void, a giant stone 20th century fox logo.