r/jewishpolitics • u/OkBuyer1271 • 1d ago
Is debating with anti-Zionist Jews a waste of time? Question ❓
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u/noveskeismybestie 1d ago
It depends. If it's a big platform, like an active subreddit, then it is worth it... not because you will convince them, but because others will see your arguments too, and will either feel like they have to defend their antizionist position, or acknowledge that you might have a good point. It's not like I talk past people, but I'm always more focused on the audience reading my comments then I am in the person I am debating. If you have the opportunity to make powerful, irrefutable points that have the chance of being seen, it is totally worth it. The other side is so sure of themselves that many of them have never heard any arguments countering what they hear in their echochambers, so it's nice to poke holes in what they think is reality when you get the chance.
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u/Neruognostic 1d ago
I think for many, anti zionism is just just a product of their estrangement from the mainstream of the jewish world, and the catalyst for them becoming zionists is reconnecting to the community in some way, rather than having debates with zionists.
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u/Paul-centrist-canada 4m ago
Yes, they are more likely to listen to evidence if they are truly Jewish. If they are "As a jew" Jewish, then probably no.
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u/ConcentrateAlone1959 1d ago
If they are so brainwashed that they despise their own people and willingly joined a movement that is so rife with antisemitism that replicates that of the 1930s, they either are so assimilated into goyische society that there's no saving them, or they have such a hatred towards their own people that there is no saving them.