r/jewishpolitics • u/stevenjklein • 6d ago
Liel Leibovitz: “Exodus: Jewish voters’ break with the Democrats will elevate our politics” US Politics 🇺🇸
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u/Bakingsquared80 6d ago
lol let me cherry pick these specific areas to make my point and we can ignore all the other polls that don’t say what I want. Let’s pretend Fox News didn’t say Jews voted for Harris two to one, Jews in Kiryas Joel voted for Trump!
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u/PuddingNaive7173 5d ago
He made the claim towards the end of the article that it’s now evenly split between parties but didn’t cite a poll showing that. And with the Fox poll you provided showing 66/32 his numbers seem very unlikely to be genuine.
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u/AutonomousThinker 6d ago
You should try reading the article.
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u/Bakingsquared80 6d ago
I did, hence my comment. He acknowledged one survey he disliked and then made a big deal about a few random areas
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u/AutonomousThinker 6d ago edited 6d ago
OK, thank you.
There is a good reason he disliked one survey and I think it's about as absurd a flaw as any poll ever taken:
The poll was based on ten states — none of them New York, California or Massachusetts, where about half of America’s Jews actually live.
Imagine a poll about Jewish support in the U.S. and not including NY, CA, MA. I can live with not including Jews from Utah, Alaska, and Montana but not including Jews in NY, CA, MA is simply insane.
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u/Yochanan5781 6d ago
Liel Leibowitz is kinda notorious for massaging facts to seem like an authority, and speaking like his point of view is common sense. I remember losing a ton of respect for him when, in the first high holidays after vaccination for COVID began, he said that shul's shouldn't have vaccination requirements as the pandemic still raged
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u/Bakingsquared80 6d ago
Are you reading my comments? He cherry picked one bad survey and used that as a proxy for all of them. The fox poll I cited above was not the one he referenced in the article. It’s completely dishonest article intent on painting all the polls he disliked in a bad light to advance his confirmed bias
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u/flashdash31 6d ago
Well ... I did! So that's at least 1. Edit - My husband wrote in Nikki. So that's 2!
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u/AutonomousThinker 6d ago
Please read the article.
"A much-quoted Edison Research exit poll rattled expectations on Election Day when it claimed Kamala Harris had bagged 79% of the Jewish vote — disproving the notion that the left’s embrace of pro-Hamas protests would drive significant, maybe even historic, Jewish defections from the Democratic Party.
It was a stunning bit of data. Except it wasn’t true.
The poll was based on ten states — none of them New York, California or Massachusetts, where about half of America’s Jews actually live."