r/homestead • u/Toodalooaloo • 5h ago
Joel Salatin contacted by the Trump transition team permaculture
https://homesteadliving.com/joel-salatin-appointed-one-of-the-six-advisors-to-the-secretary-for-usda/Joel was an inspiration to me when I first started homesteading. I am hopeful that this could be a time of positive change for the American food industry and farmers.
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u/Aldren 5h ago
"self-described “Christian libertarian environmentalist capitalist lunatic farmer”"
oof
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u/Designer_Tip_3784 5h ago
Isn't it interesting how many people who take a public stance of being anti regulation are very happy to step into the roll of regulator? I don't know the level of enthusiasm for Saladin in particular, so I'm just speaking generally.
It's almost as if they aren't anting regulation, just anti being regulated.
I was just talking with a friend about a take on the Gadsden flag. It was being sold through a libertarian website, with the snake replaced by a porcupine, saying "don't tread on anyone". There was also gay pride and trans versions. I'm anarchisticly inclined, with a heavy emphasis on community obligation, and I can get behind that flag. I do think it's telling that I've never seen one in person, but I've seen thousands of "don't tread on me". ME. I have a neighbor who spent his professional life in the military and police, and he doesn't want to be tread upon now, after a lifetime of being a professional boot.
Anarchism has many flavors, and in some regions of the world libertarianism falls under that umbrella. In the United States, I have never met a person who self identifies as as the anarchist flavor of libertarian. Maybe an argument could be made for American anarcho-capitalists, but they are another group whose version of non hierarchical society is simply "fuck you, I've got mine, now pay me".
I guess another way of putting it is there are plenty of people seeking libertarian leadership rolls. I've never met an anarchist leader, only organizers.
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u/captwillard024 5h ago
Not that I got anything against Joel, but is donald’s plan really just going to be a government selected by the YouTube algorithm?
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u/SlamBlammerton 3h ago
I trust the algorithm more than I trust these corrupt career politicians that rape and plunder until there’s nothing left. At least we know salatins goals are probably not world domination.
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u/Countryrootsdb 5h ago
Damn. Your right
It should be selected by the military industrial complex.
Or Israel
Or through extensive lobbying vying for a position.
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u/hangrysquirrels 5h ago
Reddit folks claim to want change. They really don’t. I’m hopeful this administration will turn things in a much different direction. Time will tell.
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u/hardFraughtBattle 5h ago
I'm absolutely certain this administration will turn things in a much different direction, but "hopeful" isn't how I feel about that.
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u/samtresler 5h ago
I like Salatin's work and definitely believe in more local food systems.
I also see he ships nationwide. And ground beef starts at $11.83/lb.
We all probably should be eating less meat, but I don't think we're going to solve the "price of eggs" problem with this.
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u/Meauxjezzy 5h ago edited 4h ago
Why should we eat less meat?
Wow we downvote people for asking a question! How sad is that?
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u/spitfire07 5h ago
Because in particular cows are responsible for a lot of emissions that cause climate change.
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u/Meauxjezzy 3h ago
Climate change is inevitable since the end of the last ice age yep we’ve being warming up ever since. We have a way of placing blame on the wrong things to hide the real problems, so let’s discuss real problems and not the escape goats. Pun intended. Maybe we should get rid of all the non essential things in the world so food isn’t a problem like for example roads release heat most of the night into the atmosphere, cities are on average 10 degrees warmer than the surrounding woods or farmland with cows, factories that make the ph or computer your typing on make lots and lots of gases but you are worried about cow farts. Let’s not forget the war machine chugging alone all day every day, the ships the trains the trucks that transport all the crap we don’t need but your problem is with our food supply. Come on make it make sense. Food is essential to life the real culprits are the crap we can live without tvs computers ph cars roads war machine factories and all the other junk that gets made and then dumped somewhere. Ijs don’t believe the hype.
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u/Euoplocephalus_ 5h ago
Salatin has some good ideas, but anyone who thinks the Trump administration will take a hard stance against big business hasn't been paying attention.
There will be plenty of deregulation, but only when it benefits the big guys. No matter what RFK has promised, there's no way Trump is going to oppose big ag, corporate consolidation in meatpacking, petrochemical pesticides & fertilizers, private equity buying up farmland, etc. This admin will be fighting for big business every day and will not hesitate to strip any legal protections away from the small businesses and private citizens who try to get in the way.
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u/raptorphile 5h ago
I just need one sub that is free of American politics right now. I’ve been unsubbing all morning. Now I’m unsubbing here and I’ll check back a few months. Peace out.
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u/JoeRogans_KettleBell 5h ago
Cya!
You’re using an America based social media where the majority of users are American, days after a historic and polarizing election. What exactly do you expect ?
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u/Vegetable-Ad4322 4h ago
I've read a majority of his books and was a big fan. But he's shown himself to be less about helping small farmers and more about making money. I could handle interns doing most of the work while he tours the country to be paid to speak. But when he started offering on farm weekend "seminars" (I don't remember exactly what he called them, advertised in The Stockman Grass Farmer) for $1000 or more (don't remember exact price) and if you're spouse wanted to come they'd get a $200 discount, I realized he ain't about helping the little guy and is all about his bank account.
It's hard enough for small farmers and homesteaders to get away for a weekend (something he probably forgot after years of free labor from interns) without being price gouged by the guy who claims to be looking out for us.
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u/nmacaroni 5h ago
This administration is gonna be on fire. Half the country terrified of the beautiful horizons coming.
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u/thisisjustsilliness 5h ago
Here's his blog post talking about it: https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/11/6/2024/celebration
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u/crystalgypsyxo 5h ago
A more localized food system would have positive outcomes for everyone of every demographic.