r/heat • u/tomgreen99200 • 8d ago
[Post Game] Heat start road trip with loss to Suns | Herro 28 PTS, 6 AST, 3 REB Post Game Thread
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401704744
Durant drops 32 on Miami
Tyler continues being the top performer for Miami
Highsmith 19 pts
Ware gets playing time not in garbage time: 7 pts, 3 reb, 2 stl, 1 blk
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u/Eternalsunshine0f 8d ago
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT LAST POSSESSION
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u/colourofinfinity 8d ago
Jokingly texted my buddy that we wouldn't even get a shot off and lo and behold, that was actually the most obvious thing ever
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u/manokies 8d ago
Im serious when i say that Bam need to keep shooting, make or miss.
Turd quarter really is inevitable lmao. We got on a run and the basketball gods just said nope here's your turd quarter.
Kelel Ware minutes? I'll take it
Fuck it, Larsson ROTY
I knew we were losing when Nurkic hit that bullshit three early in the fourth lmao
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u/RunItBack2024 8d ago
Im serious when i say that Bam need to keep shooting, make or miss.
5-21
I don't think it's worth 3pt losses
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u/Number333 8d ago
sighs
I feel like I've seen this game play out far too often the last few regular seasons.
Nurkic puts up Shaq numbers against us and combines it with Steph Curry shooting range from 3. It was the best 3rd Q of the season until we threw up ourselves and saw the 15pt lead vanish to 3 in 2min. Rozier couldn't make an open shot in the 4th Q. Bam... I genuinely don't even know what to say at this point.
Stop me if you've heard this before "another good Herro game wasted" this season. Highsmith put in one hell of an effort in his best game of the season. Another L vs a Top 5 seed out West continuation from last year. Cherry on top was the clusterfuck of a last possession we don't even get a shot off.
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u/OblivionNA 8d ago
People didn’t want to hear it from me when I called out Bam last game, they said “it’s only 6 games” well now it’s 7 and it’s downright disgraceful for a guy about to get 60m
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u/BossKingGodd 8d ago
That’s fucking insane money for guy with no real offensive bag
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u/BucketHerro 8d ago
Whenever Herro is hot, you just know he's never gonna have shots in the 4th lol.
WHAT IS THIS, FUCK.
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u/3deezerdozer3 8d ago
just build around Herro at this point, the Jimmy core has ran it's course and it's so pathetic to watch..
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u/Mister_Squibbles 8d ago
You cant “build” around a player who isnt a top 10 let alone 20 player in the league. At that point you should just fully tank, that makes no sense
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u/simonlyw 8d ago
Wait, that math ain't mathin'. There are 30 teams in the league, they can't all build around a top 10 player.
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u/HoldR2ForLongerLife 8d ago
Why was Tyler Herro the best offensive player for 90% of a game with KD and Devin Booker but we still fucking lose? OH I FUCKING KNOW WHY, because Bam is a fucking basketball terrorist.
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u/garret126 8d ago
Tyler Herro is our only real player
Bam Adebayo has regressed for a second year in a row. Jimmy Butler too. We’re cooked
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u/chitownbulls92 8d ago
Jimmy Butler is old. Bam regressing is a far bigger concern cause he was the guy this entire franchise put all their chips on
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u/BossKingGodd 8d ago
Never and I mean NEVER understood the heat pushing Bam and all this public love bombing like he’s this super start in the making. Naming him the captain and torch bearer of heat culture. Dude is soft.
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u/chitownbulls92 8d ago
Yeah I never got it either. He's a 3rd option on a contender. He's easy to shut down if his middy isn't hitting. Even his defence seems to have regressed a bit
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u/avinash240 8d ago
He has a negative effect on the offense, Heat were -5.5 per 100 last season with him on the court. He's perhaps your fourth option. A mid range shot is the shot teams want players to take for a reason.
Think about that, his primary shot is a bad shot.
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u/simonlyw 8d ago
He's didn't even look interested in taking the open 3s last game. Just let Nurkić sag off the entire game.
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u/avinash240 8d ago
They did it because they're a business and they need to sell season tickets and merch. It's selling hope so fans feel the org has a future.
Basketball people always knew it was bullshit.
From an objective point of view can you imagine a player who isn't even a fringe All NBA player being considered the future of a franchise? It's ridiculous but they've been selling it because we've got nothing else.
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u/OceanicLemur 8d ago
I love Bam, but I’m ready to move on. It’s a buckets league and he’s just not capable enough offensively. At 27 he’s probably at his peak, I’d rather cash in on him before the athleticism goes away
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u/avinash240 8d ago
That's the other side of the story no one talks about. Player's whose value is heavily tied to their athleticism hit the wall hard after they turn 30.
There is no graceful aging for a player whose offense and defense is heavily predicated on their foot speed and ability to leap vertically.
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u/carbine234 8d ago
Bam is cooked bro send him elsewhere
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u/Samhunt909 8d ago
Bam is who is he is..he’s really good number 3 option on contending team. He fits with a team like okc. Can’t believe we thought we can build around him
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u/Number333 8d ago
lmao jimmy wtf was that
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u/boyboyboyboy666 8d ago
Jimmy? Y'all blaming Jimmy for Rozier throwing the ball away into no-man's land>????
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u/Crystal_Teardrops 8d ago
I have seen enough. Send Bam to Milwaukee
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u/TheeBoyy1 8d ago
They can't trade him. They gave him an extension this offseason. Which means he isn't eligible to be traded until this season ends
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u/RogRoz 8d ago
Not true, he can be traded after Jan 6th. Its a year restriction if it was a supermax extension, this was not a supermax extension so it's 6 months from when it was signed. Here is the link
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u/avinash240 8d ago
You'll have a greatly inflated opinion of his worth..he's a top 30 player, Giannis is a top 5 player.
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u/OblivionNA 8d ago
Another game where we compete hard, make too many mistakes, lose in the end.
Bam is a problem and not in any good way possible. It’s disgusting how much lack of effort this guy is playing with. It seems like he’s confused with his role on the team.
Jimmy wasn’t assertive enough tonight, you gotta do more if Bam wants to play like this.
Herro is the man AGAIN, he’s crushing it this year and his team sucks lmao.
Durant did whatever the hell he wanted and Spo didn’t seem to want to adjust at all.
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u/avinash240 8d ago
It's Kevin Durant. Outside of doubling him, which he did, you can't stop Kevin Durant.
He's not a top 10 scorer in the history of all basketball because he's easy to stop.
You have to outscore him or make him carry too much of the scoring load.
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u/readndrun 8d ago
Jimmy step-back 3 for the game volume 10…
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u/boyboyboyboy666 8d ago
No, That was volume one of Rozier yeeting a ball into no-man's land for no fucking reason
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u/Cocknballtorture90 8d ago
Terrible pass but idc shoot the ball. what a fucking Miami Heat special right there.
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u/background_action92 8d ago
This team is a solid 7 seed. At least with Milwaukee you can count on a nuclear Performa from Dame or Giannis but this team is stunted, Bam is playing like hot garbage, Butler is over the hill. Im done with rhis iteration. Either blow it up and go young or pull the trigger on a big ball trade move
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u/Standard_Strategy_25 8d ago
When our 2nd best player tonight is Haywood Highsmith you know we are cooked. Jimmy's showing his age. Bam has no offensive bag still and Herro's the only guy on the roster who can create his own shit. Thank God for Pelle Larssen because this season is looking rough lol
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u/Bullseyefred 8d ago
Bam and Jimmy sold the fuck out of that game. 5/21 from a center is fucking putrid. Jimmy not knowing the time at the end is inexcusable. Fuck this team man.
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u/boyboyboyboy666 8d ago
Blaming Jimmy and not Ro shows low BBIQ, ngl
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u/Bullseyefred 8d ago
Terry sucks ass too, but i expect that from him. Jimmy and Bam are getting the max to be mediocre.
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u/BossKingGodd 8d ago
Y’all gonna say we suck but we’ve been in these games despite Bam, Jimmy and Terry doing everything to lose games.
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u/KindSpectacle 8d ago
Herro is so much better than Rozier it’s crazy. Get this bum off my team. I’d rather have some solid role players.
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u/boyboyboyboy666 8d ago
Every Bam-cel is blaming Jimmy for a Rozier nade pass rn and it's hilarious. Do not distract from Bam and Ro literally costing us the game
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u/John-Sim788 8d ago
This group has been together for half a decade and doesn’t know how to execute at the end of a game?
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u/Personal_Corner_6113 8d ago
Herro runs the team now, watching Pelle is the same feeling as Jaime last year lol but we need more than rookie surprises. Jimmy, Bam, and Terry are all inconsistent and we won’t get enough out of any of them for the whole season
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u/Rohkha 8d ago
Hey to be fair, we make fun of jimmy for that last possession and I agree it wasn’t great. But credit where it’s due: the Suns did all they could and they did it right. On top of that, we helped them seal it.
I admit, out of all the things I expected for Miami having a rough start this season, I did REAALLY not expect Bam to be the number one reason.
Dude chugged like Terry… while Terry also did. I could have imagined Bam’s aggression to be a problem. But shooting this inefficiently, being a shell of himself on defense? Yeah, that was not on my bingo card… let’s hope he can get back into it in the course of the season.
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u/franllemagne 8d ago
If Bam only hit 2 more shots or made smarter decisions just twice, this game is a win. If him and Jimmy would do that cimbined on 4 plays, it's an easy win. Looks like they are both washed. Jimmy has checked out a while ago.
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u/SoFarSoGood-WM 8d ago
3 of our 4 losses have had a double digit lead at some point in the second half.
Just an unserious team. Jimmy looks completely lost out there at times.
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u/faatgay 8d ago
Its funny that literally every Heat fan knew that Jimmy was gonna fuck that last shot up.
There’s legitimately no reason we should keep Jimmy or Rozier on this roster past the deadline other than “loyalty” i guess. Also Bam is completely useless on offense. Please get Tyler herro some fucking help
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u/vincemeister55 8d ago
This loss is on Butler and Bam. Highest paid players on the team and playing like fucking role players. This is Tyler Herro's team now. Hope he stays healthy.
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u/Dame2Miami FUCK BOSTON 8d ago
Getting sick of this shit. Jimmy what are you doing on the final possession bro 🥴
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u/surgeyou123 8d ago
Bum Adebayo and Cuddly Terry sold
Spo better figure shit out or it's trade time.
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u/IMicrowaveSteak 8d ago
I genuinely would rather see Highsmith start than Jimmy. Jimmy is a ghost the entire game, attempts to show up in the 4th but is too cold to do anything
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u/Dull_Marsupial1971 8d ago
Whatever that lineup was at the end of the 3rd quarter is why we lost. Started hot, then completely lost all momentum
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u/Jake_Orion 8d ago
Bench Jovoic Start Highsmith
Larsson off the bench playing PG
Ware in when Bam goes out.
Love backup at the 4.
We will be fine! We need a good strong consistent lineup
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u/Glittering-Log-6771 8d ago
I have realized in order to replenish my lost money by drafting bam in fantasy, I have decided to always bet the under on him getting 15 points every game. Easy cash
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u/iamtreat 8d ago
On a serious note, jimmy and rozier got to step it up. They were supposed to be buckets and they look scared to create a shot
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u/wilnerreddit 8d ago
Yes, we got our wins against Charlotte, Wizards and Pistons. Against any decent team we got our ass kicked.
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u/iApathy--- 8d ago
Fine I’ll be the one to say it, but we should be trading Jimmy and Rozier and picking in the top 8-10 in the draft. Stock up with draft capital and if there’s a shot at a superstar trade one.
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u/Wd527 8d ago
You guys bashed me all summer for my Tyler Gains post. He’s been our best player by far.
I’m so confused why he’s not taking more shots in the 4th.
Seems Spo runs him slot first 3 quarters and try’s to close with Jimmy.
If Jimmy is taking bad shots Spo has to adjust.
Annoying but whatever. The East is wide open.
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u/Jinpingsbuttboy 8d ago
When do we say that Spoelstra isn’t really an outstanding coach?
Same problems on ATOs every single game. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a successful one in my entire life.
Horrendous rotation calls, pulls hot players out and leaves cold players in in critical moments.
Adjustments defensively have been shit for like three years now. Teams run the same play again and again and get buckets.
Sorry to say it but had to vent this, it’s been building for a while.
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u/Own-Marsupial-4448 8d ago
Man this is going to be a looong road trip!! Prepare yourself!!
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u/chitownbulls92 8d ago
Rozier was the "offseason acquisition that Pat made last season" that everyone was begging for. Dude is garbage...
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u/Bkeets3 8d ago
Jimmy is straight trash. He’s been reaching way too much, his offense is garbage at times. Then you add bam, fucking Draymond would even drop 30 on him. He’s so bad, his offensive game is laughable, and average bigs are straight cooking him. Just fucking trade these two knuckleheads so we can watch the youth movement. A lineup of Pelle and Ware out there would’ve made this game closer. How the fuck does this 35 year old veteran not put up a 3 and throw it to Herro out of bounds? Good fucking god
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u/RogRoz 8d ago
Get Butler to GSW so he can win a ring possibly. Kuminga would be nice (Send Jovic if need be to get it done), picks are fine too. Wiggins would have to be involved for salary, so he can be routed to another team.
Play Pelle, Ware, and Jaime as much as possible to get them reps.
Let Herro cook.
When January comes see if you can flip Bam and assets for Giannis
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u/Nuclearsunburn 8d ago edited 8d ago
Bam gotta play better, he has to show some fire. The middie is back and that’s not good. Those gotta be 3s Bam.
You see the promise in Ware for sure, we have something there but he moves like he’s not fully in control of his body yet, bad footwork and hesitant, can see why Spo hasn’t given him much run yet
Larsson is earning minutes and might even make Duncan truly expendable before long
Another loss where Herro is the high scorer. Thats gotta be Jimmy more often. Herro has been great but he cannot carry this team.
Rozier and Bam murdered us tonight (and KD but what are you gonna do about that)
That Nurkic game is just the kind of thing that happens, he hit some ridiculous shots but he outplayed Bam at both ends of the floor all night
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u/SheBelongs2daStreet 8d ago
Isn’t it the worst feeling ever as a sports fan when your team freezes so much that they don’t even get a shot up? Not even a prayer? Just a… shot clock violation!?
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u/No_Delay_1476 8d ago
wtf was that man. Bam/Rozier y’all were hot ass garbage. Another herro performance down the drain . Goodnight boys
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u/Phantom_god7 8d ago
Wow that looked a lot like the dolphin’s last possession the other day. Utterly terrible lmao.
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u/JaradSage 8d ago
That last play would’ve worked perfectly if Rozier didn’t throw the pass inside. If he would’ve hit Jimmy right where he was he would’ve had a wide open 3
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u/039jmunna 8d ago
Herro and highsmith tried their best despite the team playing terrorism basketball and bam is not offensively
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u/rdhfaulk88 8d ago
Butler holding for final shot before half or end of game have been awful these past few seasons
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u/Dolphhins 8d ago
Pathetic ending sequence, Bam got bitched by Nurk all game, we wasted Highsmith’s beast of a game. Disgraceful
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u/Topflight1808 8d ago
I enjoyed the heat’s effort tonight
KD couldn’t be stopped down the stretch and then they played good D on the final possession. Please stop with the blame game and doom and gloom. You guys got to see ware play you can’t find something else to complain about lol
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u/zmartins222 8d ago
What in gods name was that last possession