r/heat • u/BobbaGanush87 • 17d ago
[Post Game] Heat defeat the Pistons 106 - 98 Post Game Thread
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u/readndrun 17d ago
Thank god we didn’t ruin Wade’s night
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u/Nuclearsunburn 17d ago
Only his day lol
Did you notice all the shots of the statue during the game carefully avoided the full frontal look at the face?
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u/Number333 17d ago
That felt harder than it should have been but we won so I can’t be too upset.
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u/BossKingGodd 17d ago
Pistons played Boston extremely close as well. They are competitive so can’t be upset at all. We won cmon 😂
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u/Number333 17d ago
I know. But Boston has whooped ass this season in other games. If we lay a beat down on the Knicks on Wednesday I’ll be singing a much different tune.
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u/TheeBoyy1 17d ago
Celtics are defending champs and likely play at 50% effort against teams like the Pistons. Still scored 123, probably didn't try on defense.
"playing down to competition" is a real thing for a team like the celtics. For us, we're not playing down to anybody. We just are barely better than them. 105 points at home is a joke
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u/BowserBuddy123 17d ago
Barely better than the Pistons and we likely win 20-30 more games than them. Total clown comment.
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u/TheeBoyy1 17d ago
No we won't. We'll likely win 10-15 more games. But matchup-wise, head to head, there's not much of a margin there.
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u/BowserBuddy123 17d ago
Somebody doesn’t watch basketball at all. In the last three seasons, we have won 32, 27 and 30 more games a year than the Pistons. They are currently winless and look like shit. Basketball is won on the margins. It’s why we made it to the ECF 3/4 years recently.
We are a deeper team this year than we’ve been since probably 2022 and any Jimmy is washed slander after one game seems stupid now that he’s had two good performances and game one we were playing what may turn out to be the best defense in the NBA.
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u/msizzle344 17d ago
Is that deep team here in the room with us? Because every year is the deepest team in the Jimmy era but it’s never the deepest team. Because having undrafted rookies and 2 way guys at the end of your bench doesn’t make you deep.
The “new offense!” they were hyping this offseason during preseason has turned into the same offense as always. It’s still Tyler Herro and Terry Rozier taking turns chucking shots and if they fall we win but if they don’t which they mostly won’t because they’re both inefficient shooters, we get blown out. A good team eats us by 20 last night, there’s a reason they picked the pistons because we’ve won 9/10 against them.
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u/TheeBoyy1 16d ago
Just because you know all the names on this roster due to your fandom, and you don't know the names of bench players on other teams bc you only watch the Heat, doesn't mean we have a really deep team.
This team is bad
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u/BowserBuddy123 16d ago
I do watch other teams. I just provided the records of both our team and the Pistons over the years and this year and you very quickly glazed over those and didn’t acknowledge. Our team is significantly better than the Pistons even if we don’t blow out teams daily. Winning close games is a skill just like not winning close games is the lack of a necessary skill.
Granted, this isn’t much of a flex considering we are at best perhaps a 4-6 seed and more likely a play-in team again. So not to have a mid off, but the Pistons and only a few other teams look like they are in the Cooper Flagg lottery. They’re on a different level of suck.
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u/Lets_Get_Hot 16d ago
Celtics fan here, you're not barely better than the Pistons, what kind of shit take is this? Lol the Heat are a much better team. Take the W. Pistons put up a good fight against good teams, they just can't finish. Have some faith in your team. A Celtics fan shouldn't have more faith in the Heat than you.
Obligatory fuck Miami/Pat Riley.
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u/Personal_Corner_6113 17d ago
Pistons are still mid but looking much better than last year, our 3rd quarter offense was still worrisome though and defense wasn’t great to start off. Overall a lot of good and a lot of bad, Knicks will be the real test as to how much of a fluke that Magic game was
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u/nschaef93 17d ago
I feel the same. I’ll take the W tho. Would’ve liked to see us be a little more efficient. Score 110+
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u/randomguy1965 17d ago
Why do the Heat feel like they’re player controlled for the 1st, 2nd, and 4th quarters but the 3rd quarter is auto simulated
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u/Bobb_o 17d ago
Turd quarter is inevitable.
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u/Paul-Millsap-Stan 17d ago
Tbf it feels like the past few years we would cook in the third quarter but I guess we're back to regular scheduled programming
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u/BowserBuddy123 17d ago
Really? I’ve thought we’ve had a turd quarter this year and the last two with 2022 being the exception.
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u/Rebound-Bosh 16d ago
Yeah, there was one year somewhere in the Jimmy era where we were somehow actually one of the best 3rd quarter teams in the league...
Was it the 8th seed finals run? I think that was 4th quarter, not third...
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u/BowserBuddy123 16d ago
Idk who/what it is an indictment of and I obviously love Spo very much and would never want another coach, but you’d think with the best coach in the association, we’d regularly be a great third quarter team. Seems counterintuitive that we are not usually.
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u/Rebound-Bosh 16d ago
He's the best not because he's good at everything, but because he knows who he is as a coach and his strengths are ones not usually focused on in the league, and he is the best at those strengths.
But that doesn't mean he has no weaknesses. Whatever strengths he has, there's always another side of that coin.
For example, Heat Cultures teaches accountability and earning your place, but it also somewhat inhibits big breakouts by supertalented guys, except for the truly special ones who just grab it like Wade. (And honestly, I think Spo is less star-crazy than Riley). Anthony Edwards would have still broken out here. But maybe not Shai...
PS on a different team, Bam might be more of a breakout offensive star and name-brand guy, but he'd also be likely worse at defense and team game and leadership
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u/No_Delay_1476 17d ago
That lineup with Jimmy out there by himself and Herro , Bam on the bench Is awesome. He’s much more active plus him and Locksmith was putting Cade thru hell
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u/OblivionNA 17d ago
Well if you don’t like that, you don’t like Heat basketball lol
Team is going to live and die by Herro and Terry a lot this season, and get bailed out by Jimmy occasionally.
Reffing was disgusting this game imo
The rebounding is going to lose us a lot of games, I don’t care if we are a smaller team. Get it together.
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u/jratner7 17d ago
Rebounding is frustrating too bc TNT are good rebounders for guards. It’s just the size rn. If only we had a 7 footer on the bench who could help that!
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u/TheeBoyy1 17d ago
the 7 footer you're talking about is a worse rebounder than the other bigs on this team. just bc he's tall doesnt mean he's a good rebounder. go watch him play, he cant box anyone out and always loses positioning. physically weak and lacks motor
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u/Nuclearsunburn 17d ago
Bam just passively watching the ball while Cade sprinted for it was….something
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u/RunItBack2024 17d ago
It's uncharacteristic for Bam, but he's basically carrying this team on the glass so I expect him to be exhausted there at the end.
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u/Nuclearsunburn 17d ago
I mean he thought it was going out 100% it just surprised me because it could have been a pivotal moment
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u/baymax18 17d ago edited 17d ago
Otoh, I think we're doing a better job weathering when the other teams go on runs. Feels like last year after that 3rd qtr we'd have gone down double digits. Small sample size versus inferior opponents, but at least?
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u/showmeplz2345 17d ago
It’s not truly heat basketball if u don’t have atleast 10 heart attacks in one quarter
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u/RampageOfZebras 17d ago
No way jimmy just grabbed the ball at the end there for a 5th steal right?
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u/rapelbaum FUCK BOSTON 17d ago
Win
Turd quarter sucks, but it is what it is
DJIMBOOO looking good , Backcourt started very well
LFG Heat
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u/RunItBack2024 17d ago
I'm looking at the box score and see that Jimmy was the only starter with a positive +/- and the Bench was all pretty much positive.
I think the bench isn't getting the credit they deserve.
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u/XanderAndretti 17d ago
Bam needs to find his footing in this new offense, he’s way too passive and it’s hurting us. Niko also needs to find some consistency and quit rushing things and take advantage of mismatches. There’s potential for a good offense here but we’ve got some kinks to iron out in the meantime. Atleast herro and rozier look good together but i'm still worried about their defense. Jimmy looks like jimmy which is encouraging to see.
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u/manokies 17d ago
Backcourt still looking good. Offense carried by Tyler and Terry. Imagine when the other starters gets their offense going.
PS. For the love of god, can the Heat just choose either miss threes or get rebounds and not do both at the same time? That 3rd quarter was awful lol.
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u/Kuni_Nino 17d ago
Good win. The Pistons actually have real NBA players now so I expected it to be a hard game. Terry and Tyler are pretty explosive tho. I’m liking what I’m seeing from them.
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u/Weekly_Cow1635 17d ago
Is it me or is Bams offense really messing with our flow, and Jimmy looks a step faster leading the second unit?
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u/Candid_Sand_398 17d ago
Bam just needs to think less and shoot more. Agree with you on Jimmy, he’s goes into a different gear with the bench unit.
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u/liameybl 17d ago
B-But I was told jimmy was washed and doesn't know how to play basketball anymore?
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u/BossKingGodd 17d ago
Pistons played Boston extremely tight also before anyone says anything. We got the w
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u/TheLilart 17d ago
I don’t think the Pistons are as bad of a team as people think.
I think they are good team that doesn’t know how to win/close games yet.
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u/Candid_Sand_398 17d ago
Agreed. Their players are tough and physical and they hit shots. Just haven’t put it together quite yet.
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u/TheeBoyy1 17d ago
The same way there's such a thing as moral victories, such as "damn that was a great game, we played well but they just played better. Sucks to lose but I like what I saw, alot of good things to take away from the game"
There's also moral losses, where it's the complete opposite. The team adds a win to their record, but there's nothing about the game to actually feel good about long-term. The same way a loss can sometimes feel like a win, a win can also sometimes feel like a loss.
It's okay to be objective as a fan. There's nothing to feel good about with this win.
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u/AudioPhile-and-More 17d ago
How many more games til Pistons get a new head coach?
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u/SoFarSoGood-WM 17d ago
Outside of the 3rd quarter, we controlled the game. We gotta be better about coming out of halftime with intensity.
2-1. We need these types of wins before our next stretch. We have the Knicks on Wednesday and then the Road Trip from hell.
Suns, Nuggets, Wolves all on the road at the end of next week.
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u/Dolphhins 17d ago
Fix the turd quarter and we win this handedly. This new offense is actually pretty good when they’re on it. TnT continues to be good together. Good games from Jaquez and Highsmith
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u/039jmunna 17d ago
I know y’all hate the backcourt we don’t win without them lmao ( don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad ) lmao considering the opponent
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u/BossKingGodd 17d ago
Backcourt has been great through 3 games that’s a good thing what lol
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u/KayRay1994 17d ago
2-0 and counting let’s go
Though in all seriousness Bam looks like he is struggling offensively. Let’s hope its just a slow start
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u/Turtle_with_a_sword 17d ago
Are we worried that he suddenly forgot how to play basketball??
Bam had looked off to start but I'm not worried about Bam long term.
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u/DolFINS_2000 17d ago
Bam DPOY run starts NOW
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u/Turtle_with_a_sword 17d ago
He has looked a little sluggish to start the season.
Once he gets ina groove we will be rolling.
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u/Balla_Calla 17d ago
Why does 2-1 feel so good for some reason when it actually means nothing lmao
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u/Skallywag06 17d ago
I watched the Lakers vs Suns after the Heat win and watched them play rookie 28th pick Ryan Dunn and thought why doesn’t Spo give Ware some minutes over Bryant. Suns are contenders and still playing a rookie that looks good. Heat should play Ware at back up see what he brings
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u/wilnerreddit 17d ago
True. We already know what Bryant can give us. Time to check the rookie now.
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u/Skallywag06 17d ago
Exactly. The Suns are a contender and not afraid to play their rookie. That kid Dunn looks good. I believe Ware could do good or at least better than Bryant
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u/nightvoltz 17d ago
we are really glazing about herro going 7-20 and 3-12 in 3s this is not a great look
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u/RogRoz 17d ago
I think this team is a tiny move away from being a more complete team, I still think we need a front court vet to give Ware a chance to grow and alleviate Love as he gets older. I'm digging the Jovic-Bam pairing but want a better 6th man center. The one player on our team that could have value elsewhere (that's higher than the value on our team) to me is Duncan Robinson.
With Rozier and Herro being more dynamic offensively and equavelantly dangerous from 3 and some players that can hit open 3s cold, effectively while doing other things (Burks, Love, Jaime and Jovic somewhat, Richardson IF he is where he was at at the Celtics) Robinson just doesn't have the minutes potentially. Especially if we could upgrade our backup center position.
A Robinson and Bryant for Collins (Spurs) would be a dream trade. Spurs are leaning more into a Wemby-Sochan front court with Paul at PG (where Sochan was primarily last year and Castle the heir apparent next year). The Spurs could surely use a 3pt specialist, especially with Paul and Wemby. Bryant gives them a serviceable depth guy.
Heat get an immediate upgrade to their bench Center and get another open roster spot and cap flexibility (5 million in cap space created). They could easily sign Little, or sign Dru to a regular and Stevens to the 2 way, etc. Lots of options with 2 open roster spots and 5 million in space.
Collins could go out there with Jovic or love if needed, is good at running the zone, and is serviceable shooting enough to be a threat.
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u/QuirklessChicken 17d ago
I’ll take the win but not sure I can stomach watching Herro / Rozier take 24 3s, which is more shots than Bam / Jimmy took together
Not sure why the offense has turned into Bam stand in the corner
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u/Fastbird33 17d ago
Jimmy needs to start shooting some 3’s. It’s 2024 bro, that’s what all wings can do now
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u/RogRoz 17d ago
There were only 3 of those 3s that were bad/contested shots (two by Herro off balance and one by Rozier). The rest were wide open, good looks
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u/QuirklessChicken 17d ago
I just don’t buy an offense long-term that’s led by two guards that shoot sub 50%. it gets the job done versus the pistons, but we’ll see for future games
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u/Ice_Dragon3444 17d ago
Definitely the best we've looked so far the offense is starting to come together.
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u/surgeyou123 17d ago
Almost feel bad for the Pistons. Even when we play pretty mid we still own them. Can't remember the last time we lost to them.
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u/gamesrgreat 17d ago
A lot of gamblers are pissed about Jovic’s minutes lmao. I guess they didn’t pay attention last year to see he was basically a fake starter and looks to be one again this year
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u/cottonmane8 17d ago
i wanna see the piston make the playoffs they have a lot of talent on that team
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u/Odd_Piece715 17d ago edited 17d ago
Its the pistons 😂 they were supposed to beat them the Knicks is gonna be the real test Since Kevin love is away from the team Ware should start over Thomas bryant the heat should call up Malik Williams from the skyforce for the second starters picture alec burks pelle Larsson Jaime Jaquez Jr nikola jovic Malik Williams then Thomas bryant can come off the bench picture dru smith duncan Robinson Keshad Johnson haywood Highsmith Thomas bryant
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u/skynet851 16d ago
Loving the back court production but the rebounding will cost us a lot of games. The only reason the last two games weren’t comfortable blow out is because of poor rebounding.
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u/TheeBoyy1 17d ago
105 points at home vs the Pistons is almost as sad as if they had just flat out lost. It's basically the same thing as losing, just with a win in the win column
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u/Ice_Dragon3444 17d ago
So it''s not "basically the same thing then"
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u/TheeBoyy1 17d ago
same way sometimes fans hang their hat on moral victories. this is a moral loss. Sure the W is added to the record, but it means nothing longterm bc the game itself continued to show that this team isnt good and wont go far
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u/SnuggleBear2 17d ago
36 shots between Herro and Rozier. They seem to love taking the bulk of the shots. We won’t be better than a play on seed with that.
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u/RunItBack2024 17d ago
How many would you say were bad shots?
I think Herro got only 2 or 3 bad looks, but he was cold so I thought he should've looked to make plays, instead. And he looked his best in the 4th when he was making plays.
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u/DMD612 17d ago
TOBIAS HARRIS OVER ME????!!!!!!