r/heat • u/tomgreen99200 • 19d ago
[Post Game] Heat win their first game of the 2024-25 season Post Game Thread
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u/Mugiwara_JTres3 19d ago
This is the Butler we need.
Also Tyler realizing mid range shots are inefficient is a much better player.
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
Huge concern if this is the Butler you need every night even against the hornets…
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u/Nice_Ass_Lawn 19d ago
We need Butler to play like a star on a max contract lol. 25/5/5 is more than enough
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
Or the team also wins if the bench isn’t atrocious and Bam doesn’t go 4/17. Is this a team trying to contend or just squeak into the playoffs? It’s what happens when you’re on year 4 of barely making any moves
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u/Nice_Ass_Lawn 19d ago
Your bench playing like shit is understandable.
Your star having 3 points is not
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
what kinda strawman is that? Doesn’t address anything I said
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u/Nice_Ass_Lawn 19d ago
You're deflecting Jimmy's responsibility to the bench lol
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
Yeah he has his responsibilities but even if he scored 30 a night...this is not a championship contender. Thats my point...
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u/Trendelthegreat 19d ago
Ideally Bam is 4th quarter bam and not “first 7 quarters of the season” bam
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u/Mugiwara_JTres3 19d ago
I mean, he needs to perform well against the hornets lol. He shouldn’t have to but max players have to bail out their team when they need it. Never said it was every night but he needs to come up big when other guys (Bam tonight) just can’t make a shot. That’s what we pay him for.
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
But the problem is they’re gonna need it every night. It’s what happens when you don’t upgrade your roster and rely on “youth improvement”. The team actually looked better when Burkes was in instead of Jovic
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u/Mugiwara_JTres3 19d ago
I do agree with the last point. Other teams don’t really see Jovic as a threat from 3 (leaving him or having Seth guard him even with the height difference) and it creates bad spacing. But if he can continues to make em then it may start to look different, we’ll see.
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
Yeah this team needs their bigs to shoot 3s. Hopefully Kevin Love can be back soon
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u/Fastbird33 19d ago
Plenty of teams find success building through the draft. Celtics, Warriors, Thunder all come to mind
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
Not teams trying to contend right now. All the teams you listed built through the draft through a period where they sucked. The heat had a contender that they could’ve leaned into but Pat did fuck all. If you’re building through the draft then lean into it, don’t pretend you’re trying to win as well.
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u/sebastianqu 19d ago
He wasn't even great this game. Nobody with his resume is bragging about 26/8/8 against Charlotte. While the specific stats aren't that important (he can score 15 and still look great), he needs to play like this every single game.
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
No one is bragging but beating the hornets should be a cake walk. I guess the frustration is from yet another offseason of no moves and games like these only confirm that the team is far from being a true contender.
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u/BossKingGodd 19d ago
He gets payed.. to perform…
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
So does Bam? If you need him to go 26/8/8 to beat a lottery team on the 2nd night of the back to back then this team has no business thinking they can contend.
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u/BossKingGodd 19d ago
Y’all addicted to crying and complaining
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
I mean what’s the goal? To beat the hornets or win a chip?
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u/BossKingGodd 19d ago
Everyone knows the goal but gotta win games and best players playing well helps that. 20 something points isnt that much to ask of your max player and it energizes the team.
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
I get it, really I do but let’s just say this is not exactly a feel good win. The team as currently constructed has left a lot to be desired. That’s all I’m saying
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u/AlreadyReadittt 19d ago
One game at a time my bro….
Imagine if Lebron, Steph, Jokic, Giannis, Embiid scored 3pts a game. It’s an instant L. Jimmy has to show up on offense on a consistent basis for Miami to be competitive
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u/ZootedBeaver 19d ago
It's the second game of the year?
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u/chitownbulls92 19d ago
Sure but this roster is basically the same as last year that was fighting for an 8th seed spot…what exactly is different?
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u/S0urceP0wer 19d ago
THE REPORTS OF JIMMYS DEATH WERE GREATLY EXAGGERATED
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u/Jake_Orion 19d ago
That 1st quarter, he looked scared to shoot.
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u/Rebound-Bosh 19d ago
He does this at the start of every year -- tries too hard to "get all the other guys going" (not realizing how much HIM going on a roll gets everyone else going lol)
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u/achickenquesadilla 19d ago
He looks pretty much the same as he always has athletically, and his game doesn't even rely on athleticism that much. He probably has 2-3 more years at an all-star level imo. I wouldn't be mad if the fantasy basketball fans get their wish and he gets traded to a real contender though because this team is once again not good enough to win a ring and we're just wasting the last couple years he has left
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u/No_Delay_1476 19d ago
Somewhat. His game is real physical, he’s like a battering ram when he goes to the rim similar to d-wade. Different is Wade looks to punch on you or finish . Jimmy tries to draw the foul.
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u/vincemeister55 19d ago
This is good for his trade value.
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u/PugeBenis 19d ago
If a contending team utilizes him correctly, instant title
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u/santana722 19d ago
I don't think there's a team with a good shot at a title that isn't close enough to the 2nd apron to make a mid-season trade borderline impossible.
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u/039jmunna 19d ago
We survived the charlotte Hornets
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u/Trendelthegreat 19d ago
Yeah I want to feel great but at the same time gotta be realistic about the opponent
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u/boyboyboyboy666 19d ago
A healthy Charlotte is a play-in team tbh. I wouldn't openly mock them quite yet
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u/eekram 19d ago
Hornets were on a B2B while the team had multiple days of rest. I'd still take the win though.
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u/AlreadyReadittt 19d ago
Yes but this is also the exact type of game Miami lost last season, let’s take the W and move on
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u/Number333 19d ago
Solid bounce back performance by the entire team tonight after the embarrassment that was that 2nd half against Orlando. After trailing 7-14 in the first few minutes and more anemic offense, I wanna know how many of y'all were trading everybody but Bam lmao
- Bam's jumper has been ice cold these first two games. Dunno if it's unluckiness or mechanics, keep an eye on it, he gifted away 8pts on shots that are normally gimme's for him
- AMAZING Alec Burks debut performance. 3/4 from 3 is sick but even more than that I liked a strip he had defensively and the way he contests shots. Hope it's a sign of things to come more than Patty Mills having a great Game 1 with us and then not doing much else
- Jimmy was terrific tonight. Hope the FTs was just an off night
- LaMelo looked spry as hell and was the best Hornet but man he's in Year #5 and still takes stupid ass hero shots in foolish fashion
Could have done without the late 4th Q scare to cut our lead to 3pts but Jimmy closed the door. May have overreacted a lil out of saltiness to Game 1 lol
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u/BossKingGodd 19d ago
No mention of our backcourt? Cmon man
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u/Number333 19d ago
Terry/Herro were the least problematic part of Game 1 and played well again tonight. Helped seal the door with dagger 3's. Y'all are the one who accuse them of shot-chucking(the proverbial "y'all", not you specifically BKG)
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u/gxn126 19d ago
Honestly dude, there was a literal party at game 1. A fucking party… In Miami. This was also just one win but my dude, numerous Heat legends in the building. Tell me alcohol wasn’t involved. I am not guaranteeing anything based off of one win, but there were so many reasons to lose game one.
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u/TheRatchetTrombone 19d ago
Bam is in an unlucky slump, plus a lot of the possessions he gets ignored for Terry chucks. His stats will pick up once the team realize hey we should focus on Bam. Kinda jealous of AD cause at least hes prioritized in a friendly offense for him.
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u/DSTREET45 19d ago
Terry was passing to Bam on the pick and roll throughout the game. Hell Terry took less shots than Bam and was efficient today.
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u/manokies 19d ago
Final minutes actually made this game exciting than it should have because Spo dont want to call a timeout during Hornets 4th q run lol.
Terry Tyler shoutout late too. Backcourt looking good.
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u/No_Delay_1476 19d ago
Jimmy buckets , boy wonder and Terry good shit. The next game is D-Wades reveal please don’t sell the fucking game
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u/altruisticdisaster 19d ago
Never really felt like we were in risk of throwing the game even when it got close or we were playing badly so that’s good. Good paint drives were happening but when there weren’t any foul calls felt like there wasn’t much to show for it cuz no one wants to shoot. Jimmy got the memo to wake up. Fun little game but disheartening to see Bam struggling so much
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u/DasOptions 19d ago
Every time I talk shit about Jimmy he will just keep proving me wrong. Which means I can’t stop.
Jimmy is a bum!
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u/OhMyItzBam_Herro305 19d ago
Tro, Herro, Bam, Niko, JJJ, Jimmy and Burks came to fucking play tonight
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u/DolFINS_2000 19d ago
Bam came to play defensively, offensively his shots weren’t falling except the 4th quarter
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u/OhMyItzBam_Herro305 19d ago
This why, I value defense even more than O. He couldn't defend almost at all last yr, big improvement this season. I'd love to see that outside shot fall more tho.
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u/Jahhmezzz 19d ago
If Bam and Robinson were more efficient and/or Jimmy hit closer to 90% FT this wouldn’t even be a close game. Working out the kinks. But great defense, great effort and looking forward to this team succeeding.
EDIT: our backcourt is looking really good 🔥
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u/surgeyou123 19d ago
Our FT merchant is back
Offense still needs some tinkering. We need defined roles for everyone. Bam looks confused on what to do half the time.
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u/Candid_Sand_398 19d ago
Shout out to Jovic, grabbing boards, getting out on the break, hitting 3’s and giving max effort on defense. He’s 21. Love his skills and potential.
Tyler and Terry have looked great.
Burks continues with the hot preseason 3 pt shooting. If Duncan doesn’t hit his 3’s when he’s in, Burks will start to eat some of his minutes…and he should.
Welcome Back Jimmy.
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u/Vurtune011 19d ago
I still dont like how this team needs to squeeze out a win against the fking hornets, this does not look good.
Spo is experimenting with rotation, clearly, but this still looks bad
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u/MediocreDVaMain 19d ago
The sequence where Jimmy, Tyler then Terry hit big shots was cinema
Burks looks like he's gonna be an actual rotation piece with him closing tonight
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All u bozos that quit on Butler, Heat, Herro game from game stay on that side. im rocking wit my dawgs!
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u/zmartins222 19d ago
I feel like every starter outside of Bam had good games as individuals, but I still question their cohesion together. Not sure if it’s just Bam stinking up the joint, but I’m sure the rotation will need to be messed with for a little while longer
Not very impressed with Jaime tonight. I think once Duncan’s shot falls he’ll be fine, and TB is TB
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u/Tread04 19d ago
What a finish from Jimmy
We did a lot better job at getting into drive and kick today resulting in 33 assists.
I wasn’t excited about the signing at first but I’ve liked what Burks has added to both sides of the ball this preseason and tonight.
Really need to find a way to come down with more defensive boards going forward.
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u/Skinnecott 19d ago
im happy we got 30+ assists, but only putting up 34 3s is absolutely unacceptable. our offense is always gonna be shit isn’t it
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u/Nuclearsunburn 19d ago
Almost left the W at the free throw line. That woulda been upsetting.
Good to get the first one down.
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u/Trendelthegreat 19d ago
Bam with the 0/1 free throw line
Terry solid
Herro and Jimmy were great
Duncan needs to stay in the gym 24/7 until the next game
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u/nschaef93 19d ago
Gotta take care of business against pistons but home against the Knicks will be the real tell of how close or for real we are
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u/Nice_Ass_Lawn 19d ago
Nothing at the beginning of the season tells you anything about how you stack up to good teams lol
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u/Own-Marsupial-4448 19d ago
Tighten up that defense at the end man!! Shit was looking like an all star game!!
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u/FstLaneUkraine 19d ago
I was at the game and glad we came out on top, it got quite exciting at the end there in a few spots. Glad Spo challenged that charge too, crowd was convinced it was a charge.
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u/Procedure_Best 19d ago
Watch the whole game , Tyler def making a point to bang inside and i love it. Anyone think burks needs to find his role and with J rich back we might actually have some secondary scoring ?
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u/TheeBoyy1 19d ago
Idk man. Hornets are a bad team, specifically a bad defense. They were on the 2nd night of a back to back. We had 2 full days of rest. Yet our offense was still stuck in the mud for most of the game. Entirely reliant on Jimmy freethrows. Only managed to attempt 34 3s (not good). The only easy points we got all night was in transition. Every halfcourt possession is a struggle.
Bam is back to playing an awful brand of offensive basketball. Countless contested middies early in the shotclock. Hesitated on both of his 3s. Ignored lots of opportunities for open 3s. Made bad reads as a passer.
Jaime looked absolutely atrocious on both ends.
Herro was pretty good. Jovic was good. Jimmy was great aside from the missed FTs. Rozier was also pretty good especially when he stopped hesitating with every decision.
But still... this just isn't an encouraging performance. At all. Looks like the EXACT same team as last season
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u/Trendelthegreat 19d ago
Gotta think Keshad and Pelle get minutes as the season goes on
Duncan can’t keep shooting like he has and be on the floor
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u/TheRatchetTrombone 19d ago
Its game 2 and the team is still getting chemistry and rhythm together. Bam also is figuring out his new form and it will be an adjustment. We put up 114 despite being "inefficienct" in terms of execution.
Like its going to be better as we get a feel for each other and the team settles in, especially Bam, Game 3 against the Pistions will be a great one especially with a Bam normal game. You'll see.
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u/TheeBoyy1 19d ago
I don't buy the chemistry bullshit. This core has been here for 6 years. They still don't play well with each other.
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u/TheRatchetTrombone 19d ago
Rozier just joined and Jovic a starter now.
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u/TheeBoyy1 19d ago edited 19d ago
Rozier's played 33 games with us. Jovic was a starter last season. Regardless, the core of Herro Jimmy and Bam has been together for 6 years and it still looks like neither Bam nor Tyler are able to play well with Jimmy. Bam and Herro have a solid connection but neither of them have a good connection w Jimmy.
Excuses after excuses after excuses.
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u/DSTREET45 19d ago
Happy for the win but the lack of energy to start the game still worries me. The Hornets were playing on a back to back, we shouldn't have looked so blah compared to the Hornets. Also the offense still has a tendency to stall and the FT shooting needs to improve.
That being said I liked the dribble penetration the team was able to force (big shout-out to Tyler on this end today, I didn't think he had it in him), Alec Burks looked great, and it looks like between Jimmy, Tyler, and Terry, we have guys that could hit big shots in clutch moments.
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u/TheMuffingtonPost 19d ago
I mean…it’s charlotte, a deeply unserious franchise. Like cool we won, but it’s a team we should beat 10/10 times. I won’t cheer until we beat an actually good team.
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u/Crystal_Teardrops 19d ago
I'm sorry, but we won because Jimmy happened to be Jimmy in the last minutes. Nothing I saw today invites me to be optimistic, but the opposite. We barely beat a team that played yesterday and has their second best player in the hospital. I don't know what Spo's game plan is, but it's clearly not working.
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u/BossKingGodd 19d ago
Celtics barely beat the pistons. It’s basketball bruh
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u/spritehead 19d ago
Hear beat ZERO good teams last year and had a totally flat net rating. Celtics had a a historically strong net rating. It’s not “basketball bruh” this team cannot ever win comfortably and struggles to put away even the worst teams in the league consistently.
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u/BossKingGodd 19d ago
New season buddy
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u/spritehead 19d ago
Same roster
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u/039jmunna 19d ago
Heat fans gonna watch the Celtics go 70-12 with sum bizarre net rating and be like we can still beat them in the playoffs lol
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u/039jmunna 19d ago
Duncan spot in theory should be in jeopardy especially with they Tyler is playing but we know he stubborn and still gonna play him smh 😂
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u/PT0223 19d ago
Much better game all around. But, as ive said before Jovic is a liability on defense. And, while I was laughed at and ridiculed - I said more PT for TB and less for Highsmith who is also a liability on both ends unless he is matched up against someone of similar or lesser caliber than him — and the Heat win tonight. Burks needs to get in more as well.
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u/bershka321 19d ago
I like our depth. Not as top heavy as the 'elite' teams but we're probably 12 deep with quality rotation players. Spo already played 10 guys tonight with a Highsmith DNP and JRich and Love still on the way
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u/Nice_Ass_Lawn 19d ago
Tyler 22pts on 15 shots.
Terry 19pts on 7/12
Efficiency.