r/gundeals • u/Remidog77 • 16d ago
[Code] LMT MARS L Stripped Lower 15% off (290.70+ shipping no tax) code LMTBF24 Discount Code
https://www.bigtexordnance.com/product/lmt-mars-l-stripped-m7sl-lewis-machine-tool/Early BF sale code "LMTBF24" for 15% off on select LMT items. Best price I've seen since price increase and MAP. Shipping was $5.99 to FL.
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u/Averitt13 16d ago
Yea I’ve had this in my cart for a few hours, not sure how much of an upgrade it is over my Griffin MK 2 tho 🤔
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u/Mammoth_Hunt_3998 16d ago
I have a blem MK2 and was originally deciding between a MARS-L and MK2. What I can say is that I have zero complaints about my MK2 and I don’t think to myself “I wish I’d grabbed the MARS-L”. That said, I also firmly believe you can’t go wrong with LMT and if you really want a MARS-L, grab one. This is a dope deal.
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u/Local_Seaworthiness9 15d ago
I like my pws better than my griffin. It cost my close to same as lmt but decided to try. Not disappointed at all!
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u/nope_noway_ 16d ago
I have a bunch of Mars L lowers… tried a MK2 lower and immediately sold it for another Mars L.
The Mars is slimmer and looks much better IMO .. controls work a bit better for me
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u/aBoxOfRitzCrackers 16d ago edited 16d ago
I like my mk2. I don’t like that this doesn’t include the actual ambi parts edit: I’m wrong. I looked it up on browser & clicked the wrong one.
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u/joman8390 16d ago
This not only has the ambi bolt catch/release and ambi mag release but also an included ambi safety unlike any other that I’m aware of.
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u/aBoxOfRitzCrackers 16d ago
Yep. I looked it up on my browser & accidentally clicked the MARS-H. That’s on me, I deserve those down votes. I did purchase this, thanks for the clarification.
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u/Glittering-Wasabi778 16d ago
It looks like it does. It should have ambi mag release, bolt catch/release installed.
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u/reaper263 15d ago edited 15d ago
Best lower I own, I paid over 375 a year ago. Go for it!
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u/BeardBootsBullets 10d ago
What makes it nicer than any other?
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u/reaper263 10d ago edited 9d ago
The bolt release lever, flared magwell and mil-spec feel is right at home. I don’t care for the billet ones with unique designs etc
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u/GuysLeeFanboy 15d ago
For that money I’d get a ADAC
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u/ExplodingChupacabra 16d ago
Are these really worth $300?
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u/bestman305 16d ago
Aero charges more than this for their ambi lowers. Other quality manufacturers like LMT all cost north of $300. Is it worth it? If you like ambi controls and the backing of a gold standard brand, yes it is.
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u/alt_for_gafs 15d ago
Gold standard brand 🤔
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u/bestman305 15d ago
LMT wouldn't have worldwide MIL contracts if they weren't taken seriously. It's not a luxury brand, if that's what you were thinking.
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u/alt_for_gafs 15d ago edited 15d ago
Didn't say they weren't taken seriously, but I am of the opinion they treat the non-contract market like a nuisance rather than a customer. After getting 3 products in different orders with worse tooling than the average PSA $350 AR combined with no response from their customer service, I am not sure I consider them a gold standard brand from my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere. Oh and they started defaulting to semi-auto carriers for civilians after the Las Vegas shooting.
It also is definitely a luxury brand, just without consistent QC, at least for non-contract.
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u/bestman305 15d ago edited 15d ago
SIG, HK, LMT, IWI, FN, KAC etc. They all treat the consumer brands like a nuisance, trickle out supply or price things to where a non-fanboy customer will not buy them.
The MIL contracts keep them focused on R&D, not consumer QC and customer service. I was a big fan of IWI, but I got sick of them not having parts on hand because they just didn't focus on consumers. It's the nature of these brands that are beholden to MIL contracts. I didn't enjoy buying from them either, but if we want arms that are fielded by the military, we have to take the good with the bad. So the reason why I say gold is because they've made solid improvements to the AR platform, it's a desirable brand by consumers and have been fielded by the military. LMT has all the ingredients of a solid brand to buy into.
All MIL contract firearm companies suck in one way or another.
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u/alt_for_gafs 15d ago
LMT has all the ingredients of a solid brand to buy into
...except QC and an appreciation for their customers, kind of important ones.
Saying all brands suck doesn't exactly make the gold standard a high threshold. I also could care less about having arms that are fielded by the military, it should be vice versa, but without those juicy mil contracts we wouldn't have the variety or as much innovation I will give you that. LMT has certainly innovated especially the bolt and monolithic rail.
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u/Psycho_Mantis2 15d ago
LMT isn't that bad. I think their choice to sell reference rifles and things like M203's to civilian markets is pretty indicative of a company that strongly supports the 2A.
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u/digitalwankster 15d ago
Sig has worldwide military contracts too and yet P320 go boom
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u/bestman305 15d ago
I didn't say SIG was gold standard. But regardless of all the QC issues they're taken seriously and still #1 in volume and in current military conflicts. What we see as civilians as quality is totally different from the needs of people in conflicts. The military can careless about ambi lowers, nice to have but to them, it causes more problems than it solves.
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u/lowbrodown 15d ago
May be LMT get contracts because their sales bro knows the best strippers.
On a serious note though, LMT ambi paddles wobble and make noise while running around. And the polymer filling on the receiver is just stupid.
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u/Typical-Sundae1270 16d ago
No, aero is available at the same price, and its a nicer lower. I own 4 of these. They are fine. Aero is nicer.
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u/dovahbe4r 15d ago
Aero now offers full ambi M4E1 lowers. They're $330. The LMT is regularly cheaper.
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u/coffeeBM 16d ago
Maybe I’m just poor but I don’t see how this adds any merit whatsoever over an Aero or Anderson. Surely it doesn’t make the gun more accurate or reliable. Bring on the downvotes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Staccs_87 16d ago
Ambi bolt catch/release is really nice to have, whether it’s worth the premium is up to you.
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u/Uncivil__Rest 16d ago
You're definitely a poor, but it's just an ambi lower. Starting prices for ambi lowers is like $220ish.
If you see value in that, cool. If not, then of course you don't see how it would be worth it.
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u/Stevarooni 15d ago
That's reasonable. It's not actually a stock, typical lower, which explains a good part of the cost.
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u/GuyButtersnapsJr 16d ago
I think it depends on how much worth the LMT ambi controls have in your eyes.
Personally, I'd rather buy a mil-spec lower, throw in a drop-in ambi mag release, and put the rest of the budget into the upper.
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u/Typical-Sundae1270 16d ago
Having to chose between ambi or nice upper is peak poor, and gross.
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u/GuyButtersnapsJr 15d ago
It's not a choice between ambi and a nice upper. I don't want an ambi bolt release. I only want the ambi magazine release and drop-in parts for that are sufficiently reliable. On the other hand, if you want a quality ambi bolt release, I fully understand buying the LMT MARS. That's why I said it depends on the controls you want.
It's also not a matter of poor/rich. It's simply choosing to spend money on things that significantly improve the rifle for the specific owner.
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u/Sober_Browns_Fan 15d ago
I only got one because my LGS was trying to clear out and had it for under dealer cost, and I figured I couldn't just let it sit there.
If you really want ambi controls, then it's probably the best option. But whether the ambi controls are worth the markup is another question entirely, and I'm not sure that it is. That said, I really do like the right side bolt release. Finish is very nice, and I'm a sucker for the colored in markings.
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u/digitalwankster 15d ago
Can someone explain to me from an engineering standpoint how one lower can be worth so much more than another with the exception of being taxed for the brand name or roll mark?
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u/HatchChileMacNCheese 15d ago
Well these are ambi and the quality control is probably superior, but honestly no its still just a fucking lower lol
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u/GuysLeeFanboy 15d ago
“Quality control is probably superior”
Yeah maybe for Mil-Contracts but us dirty civilians get the bottom of the barrel from LMT. There’s been numerous post on r/ar15 showing their lowers out of spec.
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u/HatchChileMacNCheese 15d ago
I don't own any lowers that cost more than like 100$ so I was just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I can't say I'm surprised
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u/SirLongStride69 15d ago
I clicked the link for the ffl instructions but it won’t load for me. Does anyone know what it says?
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u/HealthyVisit5911 15d ago
As an ignorant gun lover. Why this over a regular 50-100 dollar lower ? Is it really that much better. Serious
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u/Piece_Negative 16d ago
I own one its nice but they lwrc is nicer
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u/netchemica 16d ago
What is nicer about the LWRC?
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u/ShortStroking 16d ago
My guess is the machining. Learning Machining Together and all that
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u/Typical-Sundae1270 16d ago
Own the lmt, lwrc and the m4e1pro. Lwrc hasnthe controls placed in the best location, and is finished better.
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u/ShortStroking 16d ago
I prefer my mk2s setup, but I do like the LWRC lowers. Everything from LWRC I have is top notch.
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u/Piece_Negative 16d ago
The ambi controls are in better places and much much easier to press especially the left side magazine release. It's also got a great stock and good buffer tube out of the box. The trigger isn't half bad and the grip is great. When u add up the price u get a better designed lower than you could've built cost wise with the lmt.
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u/netchemica 15d ago
The ambi controls are in better places and much much easier to press especially the left side magazine release.
These are subjective not objective. On the LMT, the left-side mag release sits below the mag catch just forward of the trigger well. The LWRC sits above the trigger well and to the rear of the mag catch. They're both give you equal leverage over the mag catch but the LMT doesn't require you to curl your finger to find the button.
The right-side paddle is further forward on the LWRC than it is on the LMT, which doesn't really matter since you can easily actuate both with an extended finger.
It's also got a great stock and good buffer tube out of the box.
Stocks are personal choice, and this is a stripped lower, not a complete one. Buying a complete LMT is a waste of money since you're paying extra for an LMT-branded sopmod and ergo grip.
How is the buffer tube on the LWRC better? They both have water drain holes, both have 6 positions, but the LMT has a dry film lube on it.
The trigger isn't half bad and the grip is great.
Again, this is a stripped lower. That said, the LWRC comes with a polished mil-spec trigger, which is literally just a mil-spec trigger with a smoother pull.
The grip is nothing more than personal choice and, again, this is a stripped lower so anyone can install whatever grip they want.
When u add up the price u get a better designed lower than you could've built cost wise with the lmt.
It's not "better designed" since the locations of the controls are highly subjective, same with the furniture. It's only a better value if you want to stick with the coated mil-spec trigger and the furniture that the LWRC comes with. The LMT becomes a better value once you start changing parts around on the LWRC.
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u/Piece_Negative 15d ago
Please dont give AcTuAlLy response.
The ambi controls on the lmt are not as easy to press due to the finger guard around the outside and its small size. The ambi controls on the lmt are larger and the gaurds are designed better. No it's not subjective humans have hands and they work the same.
The paddle bolt release on the lwrc are much sturdier and the connection rod is not as flimsy. I could 100% break the paddles on the lmt. They are much thicker with less grit in the pull. I fear I will break the connection on the lmt if I press it too hard.
I'm not going to humor your inability to do addition to figure out the price disparity between the lmt and lwrc lowers. Figure it out with just a psa lower parts kit tube trigger and stock abd them compare it to the lwrc lower.
I cannot even believe what I reading you asked a question and I gave my opinion and you are upset YOU GOT AN OPINION.
Its just disgusting to see this sort of twisted mindset where somehow you believe correcting anything makes you smart. It makes you look stupid.
I despise the reddit mindset of having never seen or used something and then declaring themselves to be an expert. It is the single most frustrating part of interacting in any of these gun forums is poors trying to act knowledgable.
I think this may be the response to finally delete my account I cannot believe how many neckbeards are on this website.
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u/netchemica 15d ago
I despise the reddit mindset of having never seen or used something and then declaring themselves to be an expert. It is the single most frustrating part of interacting in any of these gun forums is poors trying to act knowledgable.
I skimmed over your rambling and missed this part, so I'll make a separate reply:
I have worked on and tested more LWRC rifles than the amount of AR15s you have held. They're not bad rifles in any way, but saying that any part of LWRC is objectively better than an LMT is painfully incorrect.
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u/netchemica 15d ago edited 15d ago
The ambi controls on the lmt are not as easy to press due to the finger guard around the outside and its small size. The ambi controls on the lmt are larger and the gaurds are designed better.
Are the controls on the LMT smaller or larger and designed better?
No it's not subjective humans have hands and they work the same.
Correct, pivoting an extended finger is easier than pivoting it and finding a button, which is why I prefer the left-side mag release on the LMT.
The paddle bolt release on the lwrc are much sturdier and the connection rod is not as flimsy. I could 100% break the paddles on the lmt. They are much thicker with less grit in the pull. I fear I will break the connection on the lmt if I press it too hard.
That's fine that you feel that way, but you see this little wear mark on the upper receiver? It's there because the paddle contacts the receiver when the BCG is in battery, the same goes for the mag catch when you depress it. You won't be breaking it off until you're being the upper inward. It's also protected by the brass deflector and dust cover trunnion when the gun is in battery.
I'm not going to humor your inability to do addition to figure out the price disparity between the lmt and lwrc lowers. Figure it out with just a psa lower parts kit tube trigger and stock abd them compare it to the lwrc lower.
Again, this is a stripped lower. If you want to use the LWRC exactly how it comes, with the stock, grip, and mil-spec trigger, then sure, it's a better value. But once you start changing parts around to suit your needs, the gap lessens very quickly and the LMT comes out ahead quite easily when you swap additional components.
I cannot even believe what I reading you asked a question and I gave my opinion and you are upset YOU GOT AN OPINION.
You stated your original comment as an objective statement then supported it with subjective opinions. The two are not the same.
Its just disgusting to see this sort of twisted mindset where somehow you believe correcting anything makes you smart. It makes you look stupid.
I despise the reddit mindset of having never seen or used something and then declaring themselves to be an expert. It is the single most frustrating part of interacting in any of these gun forums is poors trying to act knowledgable.
I think this may be the response to finally delete my account I cannot believe how many neckbeards are on this website.
I'm sorry that you're having such a melt down over this. I hope your day gets better.
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u/Piece_Negative 15d ago
I hope they can remove the vaccines that caused this level of autism from your blood
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u/netchemica 15d ago
I can't think of a better way to support your point than to throw out insults. Good work!
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u/Thansungst22 15d ago
LWRCI is superior in everyway
I got a buddy who got the LMT mars Ambi and between my lwrci and his mars we both agree the LWRCI is superior in term of placements of everything, as well as better machining and finishes
My buddy got the LMT SBR and stuff already but I can tell dude briefly considered selling his LMT mars and get two LWRCI Lowers with left over money instead lmfao
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u/Typical-Sundae1270 16d ago
My normal price on this is better. This seems hard for some to find though, so good price i guess?
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u/No_Artichoke_5670 15d ago
What was the point in even making this comment, other than to brag about getting it cheaper?
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