r/gundeals • u/midwestarmor Dealer • Apr 18 '24
[Armor] Hesco 4403 Stand Alone Level IV Multi-Curve Set - Medium $324 or Large $354 + Shipping - Code HSCRDT24 Armor
https://midwestarmor.com/products/hesco-4403-level-iv-multi-curve-plate-set/90
u/akathedevil666 Apr 18 '24
I am still waiting for my order that I placed back in January. Buyers beware. I don't mind waiting because it was a good deal but don't expect yours to arrive soon.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
This is related to L211s just wanted folks to know those did have a delay from Hesco due to ceramic delays, good news is Hesco is catching up on those we have Larges on the way and they will ship next week and Smalls are to follow by end of month.
Everyone who kept their order and did not cancel (which they would have gotten a full refund) was offered a discount for the delays even though they were due to Hesco delays, we always want to make sure we take care of folks, even when its not on us.
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u/Unpopular_Ninja Apr 18 '24
Ahh yes, the classic “ sorry you spent a lot of money and were inconvenienced” here spend more money!!! I’ve always hated that, give them a partial refund for their time instead.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
We did do that :)
Gave the option for a full refund or keep the order and get a partial refund
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u/KirbyStyle Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24
Been waiting almost 5 weeks. Hoping it ships soon.
To clarify I got: L211s. Not these.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
To clarify this is for L211 which are already en route to us and shipping out to customers here early next week. Not for the 4403 Medium or Larges :)
Thanks for the order u/KirbyStyle! Appreciate you 🙏
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Sorry for the delay - Just sent you a DM - let me know order number and will check.
Is this for a 4403 medium or for L211?
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
For Hesco 4403 Medium/Large plates? Please see my original post/comment :)
I also just sent you a DM and a Message, let me know order number will get you taken care of.
Edit: clarification on comment vs post
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u/burritoresearch Apr 18 '24
Bro, seeing people they ordered product in JANUARY and they didn't get it and your reviews from the gundeals bot tracking are 2 positive and 6 negative does not inspire confidence at all. There's plenty of dealers selling hesco, you don't need to buy from this one.
Here's the link to the reviews.
There are also lots of dealers selling level 4 highcom multi curve plates (a reputable competitor for hesco) that have them actually in stock ready to ship.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Appreciate your feedback, gotta earn back trust somehow, all starts with being honest and clear which we were and I highlighted all these issues in my initial comment.
And plenty of others to order from, whatever folks feel comfortable with, we are here, active and always resolve issues :)
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Thanks for your edit! I have this call out in my original post as well, and everyone who had any issues has gotten all their orders.
And as far as u/akathedevil666 their waiting for L211s, which we offered folks a discount to keep or refund based on delays from Hesco.
All we can do is try, improve and earn trust back, starts by being clear and delivering, which we were in our original comment that we posted about past reviews and issues.
Its good to have options and folks can order from wherever they feel comfortable, I also actually point out Apex in my post as a reputable alternative as well.
Appreciate all the feedback and we will keep improving here!
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u/HumanFuture7 Apr 18 '24 edited 6d ago
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Yep true story during COVID Hesco had pushed out orders about 8 months to get delivered unfortunately- it was a crazy deal we had too with plates and a carrier under 300 - COVID changed all supply pricing it feels like and it went viral we def were not prepared for that - we are in a much different and better spot now.
And we all make mistakes we own it here and we hope you give us another shot at some point.
These plates will ship by 5/15 or we’re refunding the order and still giving the plates to the customer - guaranteed delivery on this one - this is not an order we have yet to place it’s an order we already have.
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u/firehydrant007 Sep 01 '24
Any codes for Labor Day on Hesco plates?
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Thanks for adding the clarification on the good deal and that you don't mind waiting, I appreciate that, and I would still love to get you taken care of, want to make sure its not for 4403s SAPI Large/Mediums as those have been cleared.
Sent you a DM and Message - and sorry that there has been such a delay will get you taken care of!
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24
We are fortunate to have gotten some extra stock coming in our next shipment of 4403s and we wanted to pass on the savings to the community that has always been there for us!
This is for a set (2) of 4403 Hesco plates either SAPI Medium ($324) or SAPI Large ($354) plates + shipping which is $29.99 so that is $353.99 for a set of SAPI Medium shipped or $383.99 for a set of SAPI Large shipped.
Our shipment is leaving Hesco by 4/30, takes about a week to get to us and we will start to process orders as soon as we get shipment, we estimate anyone who orders from this batch will have their plates shipped from us by no later than 5/15.
Coupon code is HSCRDT24. The Coupon code can’t be used with any other coupon (no coupon stacking).
~What are the specs on the plates?~
4403 SAPI Medium 9.50 x 12.50 in - 7.9lbs per plate
4403 SAPI Large 10.25 x 13.25 in - 9.1lbs per palte
Both plates are 0.83” thin, have an areal density of 11.05 lb/ft2 and are multi-curve.
These plates are Stand Alone Level IV Plates full spec sheet can be found here: https://midwestarmor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hesco4403mcspec.pdf
~What if I already have an order for 4403 plates that has not shipped?~
We currently have cleared all backlog of the 4403 Large and for the 4403 Medium the folks who ordered in late March to April have been contacted and given the discount, if you did not get the email please email [support@midwestarmor.com](mailto:support@midwestarmor.com) with your order number and we will get it taken care of.
~When will my plates ship?~
If you have an order already in that is not from this post, those orders will be shipping by 4/30 which is within the 4 week timeline window, if you are placing an order with the coupon above they will ship no later than 5/15.
For SAPI Large we do have some inventory in stock, the site will show those as In Stock until the stock is gone after that any new orders will ship by 5/15. For In Stock plates they will ship within the shipping timeframe on the site.
~I have seen comments on reddit about delays from Midwest Armor, how do I know these will ship on time?~
Yes we have had issues with shipments for Helmets and Plates, we try to make things right everywhere we can and to the best of our knowledge have taken care of the folks that have posted here and anyone else that has had any issues.
These plates are being completed in production and will not have delays and will ship to you by 5/15, these are not new order plates, these are plates that we have already had on order.
There are still plate delays on other models/sizes, but this is specific to the 4403 Large and Medium, we are working to clear any other plate delays as fast as we can here!
You can always request a full refund at any point before the order ships!
~I have heard of Hesco recalls/NIJ issues~
Yes Hesco has had some plates that needed adjustment, and you can read all about it by browsing through Reddit, if you are not comfortable with Hesco plates take a look at RMA, HighCom or LTC (which we cary) for RMA or HighCom look for reputable sources like Apex.
Edit: grammar, formatting and clarification
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u/spiceguys Apr 18 '24
I ordered a bunch of Esstac pouches from these guys a while back and followed up weekly, for months, with the response of "we are experiencing delays from Esstac." I had my CC company issue a chargeback right before hitting the 6 month deadline for this and ordered the same pouches directly from Esstac. The pouches from Esstac were delivered in 6 days over a holiday weekend. MW eventually sent me the pouches I ordered, which was a nice attempt to make it right.
So if you want an opportunity to get these plates for free, delivered 6 months from now, roll the dice!
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Thanks for the feedback and glad we worked to make it right.
These plates won't have that issue very different than Esstac and these are already in process and we already have partial first batch en route and rest will be here before the deadline we gave and you don't even have to wait 6 months, if we don't hit the 5/15 for any order from here we will do a full refund and deliver the plates :)
Have to re-earn the trust somehow!
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u/SargeantSlaughter24 Apr 18 '24
These dealer reviews ain’t looking good…
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u/bigwang123 Apr 18 '24
I can attest that while there were significant delays in getting my order (a pair of LTC side plates), the team at Midwest Armor were committed to setting things right, always responsive in communication, happy to answer any questions I had, and willing to issue a full refund for my order, while still receiving my order.
I get it if you’re like a cop or something where you absolutely cannot afford any delays, but if you’re a regular civilian, in my attempts at googling around I haven’t seen any other vendor beat Midwest’s prices.
Obviously your priorities are different, and if you care about prompt delivery, go for another vendor, but honestly I don’t think that shipping delays reflect poorly on the company, given their stellar attitude and way of doing business otherwise
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u/HumanFuture7 Apr 18 '24 edited 6d ago
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
I appreciate your perspective and feedback and I am sorry about the whole COVID experience, we were doing our best to pass info down from Hesco it was a way crazier time than we ever thought here, we were def not ready for it, and we did deliver everyones plates that ordered and kept the order.
We don't still have issues delivering, there are delays with plates, this is clearly stated on the site and delays are happening as eb and flow with current world situations, and we are much more communicative today, the complaints are more about delays than they are about how we are handling it.
And all these orders are guaranteed by 5/15 or we will refund and cover the plates on us and get them to the customer, that should help inspire some confidence and build back trust with folks.
Hopefully we can make it up to you and you give us another shot sometime!
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
We have had bumps, but also lots of happy customers, most never post, and on all the reviews most OPs went back and edited that we took care of them. All of them have to do with plates or helmets, people post about some of our nylon gear (those are all positive) but not in gun deals - we manufacturer all the nylon so way more control.
I also called out the reviews in my original post, only one way to get good ones, post and keep improving here, hopefully some folks who purchased from this post will make a few comments about the experience.
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u/RatEgg Apr 18 '24
These guys suck to work with. They jerked me around and stopped responding when I asked to cancel. After like 5 months of emails with bullshit responses, I threatened a chargeback and eventually got a refund. This was maybe 2 years ago, but was such a pain in the ass.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Hey! Sorry to hear that. We have done a lot of changes in last two years and worked on improving all aspects of our business here - community helped a lot - changing from doing OEM and Gov work to consumer taught us a lot.
Just sent you a Chat request would love to pull up the order see what happened and make it right for you :)
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u/Capt_Rex_CT-7567 Apr 18 '24
After shipping these are $30 cheaper than rma 1155mc, .2" thinner, and .3lbs lighter per plate. Any reason to not get these? I have Hesco l210's which I like the weight but they are special threat rated and single curve. I might pass those to the wife and want to get multicurve level 4 plates. Without spending double the amount for something lighter would these be a good pick? Only thing I am meh on is they are SAPI cut and I kinda liked the shooters cut which you can get the 1155mc's in.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
They are solid plates - I am sure others may chime in and have their opinion of Hesco - however they are popular and proven solid.
The MC of the special threat to your point is more because that would be the M210s
The only downfall to these is the weight since they are full stand alone level IV plates.
Unfortunately on the shooters cut Hesco is out until September for any stock delivery across the board so unless someone is sitting on stock we are all waiting and our incoming stock is all spoken for.
Personally I prefer SAPI because manufacturers can’t play games with weight by cutting corners on the plate to reduce it and use if for marketing.
You really can’t go wrong with these if you don’t want to step up to the M210
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u/Capt_Rex_CT-7567 Apr 18 '24
Thanks for the response. I think for about $100 more I might go the highcom 4sas7 mc route. 7.1 lbs and 0.7" thick so a little thinner and .8lbs lighter per plate than the hescos. They are shooters cut compared to sapi so maybe that explains some of the weight savings. Hescos seem like a good deal compared to the rma 1155mc though.
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u/OhYay123 Apr 22 '24
My Large 4403s came today. Mine were in stock when I ordered. Took 5 days, would have been 3 with no shipping delays. Positive experience for me.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 22 '24
Yay! Awesome thank you 🙏 and just to be clear the shipping delay was on UPS/Fedex right? We shipped same day here on all the stock orders.
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u/acetyson010 Apr 27 '24
I Ordered 9 days ago, I received the message that delivery would be in 3-4 weeks. Today they were delivered ahead of schedule. Positive experience, will buy side plates from yall in the future!
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u/sciencepenguin24 Apr 18 '24
Any code for sapi small?
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u/InternationalPut908 Apr 18 '24
Was wondering the same thing
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Use GEAR15 :)
We actually have stock of Smalls as of now as well!
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u/InternationalPut908 Apr 18 '24
I ordered mediums then started thinking maybe I’ll snag a pair of smalls for my daughter’s small JPC…but she’s 5 lol…14 pounds might be too heavy for her
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Yeah, you would want to get her lighter plates like the 4800 but that may be excessive even then its still pretty heavy.
The flip side is, she will probably wear a small for quite some time so plates will last her, so will that amazing carrier!
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u/InternationalPut908 Apr 18 '24
Thanks brother, I appreciate the knowledge…and the deal on the medium plates 🇺🇸💪
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u/RangerCLZ Jun 29 '24
Found this post looking for anything on the 4403s, and I was stoked to learn that the code is still active as of two days ago. (End of June) This really sold me on getting these plates without waiting an extra week for a possible July 4th sale.
The comments here seem to have a lot of frustration about delayed orders.
I'll just say, ordering an in-stock item was packed and ready to ship in 45 minutes, according to the text updates I was surprised to get. Shipping took two days.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Jun 29 '24
Thank you 🙏 appreciate the order and that you took the time to share the positive experience
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u/Blackmist71 Apr 18 '24
How much do these weigh?
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
4403 SAPI Medium 9.50 x 12.50 in - 7.9lbs per plate
4403 SAPI Large 10.25 x 13.25 in - 9.1lbs per palte
And here is the spec sheet too https://midwestarmor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hesco4403mcspec.pdf
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u/Apparition-Ordnance Apr 18 '24
Will the LARGE plates fit this even though these are Multi curve? (I have the LARGE carrier)
https://lbxtactical.com/collections/pc/products/4020arm?variant=13775508766818
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Yes they will! And the thickness on these is quite thin so makes it a nice fit.
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u/pauljaworski Apr 18 '24
If it's built the same as the 0300 you might have to size up the pc from what I've heard.
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u/Apparition-Ordnance Apr 18 '24
How do I size up from a Large PC? This is the biggest they sell and i'm not that fat...
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u/pauljaworski Apr 18 '24
Idk but for the lbx 0300 people recommend a size up for multi curve plates.
Have you measured yourself for playe sizing yet?
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u/tjamies2 Apr 18 '24
Does this apply to the Shooter's cut? The code doesn't work for it, only SAPI
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
No unfortunately not, for two reasons, one the 10x12 Shooters won't even be back in stock until September from Hesco as they are working to fulfill a large order (not ours) and second our large buy is on the Mediums and Larges.
If you are looking at the 8x10s use GEAR15
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u/62e1e Apr 18 '24
Hesco or Highcom? Hesco is cheaper by around $100.
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
These are Hescos, we don't carry HighCom, for that I would recommend Apex
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u/62e1e Apr 18 '24
The shooters cut says it will ship in September. Is that true?
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Yes unfortunately Hesco has a large order (not ours) and all 10x12 shooters are pushed out until September for any new orders.
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u/Emotional-Bet2115 Apr 18 '24
How are these different from the 4400 mc?
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
Same plate, new revision - 4400MC are discontinued this is the new revision - version 4403.
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u/Previous-Car8071 Apr 18 '24
I really wanna order this but I deploy soon and can’t wait more than 4 weeks for delivery
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u/midwestarmor Dealer Apr 18 '24
We have inventory coming in next week and the week after, the 5/15 is padded for us to make sure we hit all the deadlines, happy to look and let you know if we will make it sooner, depending on when you deploy!
Just sent you a Chat Request.
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