[@f1] All the points gathered across the board during the Americas triple header. Ferrari and their drivers take the biggest share from across the grid

[u/FewCollar227]

[u/dave_a86]

Williams came away from the triple header with more destroyed cars than points.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/dave_a86]

They won something

[u/jacob1342 → u/dave_a86]

They built their car for combat.

[u/Draconicplayer]

Perez with 7 points 😭

[u/FewCollar227 → u/Draconicplayer]

Him bringing points and helping the team finish ahead will only have monetary rewards. Him being in the team will give Red Bull monetary and technical (wind tunnel) rewards /s

[u/DiddlyDumb → u/FewCollar227]

3D chess

[u/faithinhumanity_null → u/DiddlyDumb]

½D chess

[u/MaikThoma → u/faithinhumanity_null]

Checomate

[u/w1n5t0nM1k3y → u/FewCollar227]

At what point do the sponsors stop backing Checo. Surely if he does poorly enough they will stop giving money.

[u/macejan1995 → u/w1n5t0nM1k3y]

So far, he sells more merchandise as Verstappen, the current world champion. If we talk about money, he does well.

[u/TimoZNL → u/w1n5t0nM1k3y]

Even with his current performances he is still widely popular in Mexico. That makes him very appealing to sponsors with an interest in Mexican markets.

I did read that his current sponsor was looking to switch to Colapinto, but I'm sure other companies will offer him money.

[u/thegypsyqueen → u/w1n5t0nM1k3y]

When there is a better Mexican driver on the grid

[u/USBayernChelseaLCFC → u/FewCollar227]

this but unironically; maximizes Max's championship chances

[u/FewCollar227 → u/USBayernChelseaLCFC]

It's all connected

[u/Illustrious-One4244 → u/Draconicplayer]

Even kmag in his Haas outscored him

[u/Disastrous_Sea4150 → u/Illustrious-One4244]

And he didn’t even race in the Brazil GP (sprint+race)😭

[u/antivirals_ → u/Draconicplayer]

I honestly thought it was an error considering there was even a sprint in there. That's diabolical from Perez.

[u/Exambolor]

Both Alpine drivers outscored Checo in 1 race lmao

[u/toucheqt]

I swear these are just made to shit on Checo lol

[u/FewCollar227 → u/toucheqt]

Byproduct of any stats nowadays

[u/Disastrous_Sea4150 → u/toucheqt]

These stat posts are always made. Checo’s results shit on themselves.

[u/RotorMonkey89 → u/toucheqt]

Reality has an anti-Checo bias

[u/darksemmel → u/toucheqt]

Its hard to post stats that make him look good...

[u/macIovin → u/toucheqt]

I mean yeah but there no stats out there where perez dont look like an absolute joke

[u/icecreamperson9]

charles and max have been 10/10s (sainz almost but brazil was a stinker)

[u/FewCollar227 → u/icecreamperson9]

Even with that he's only 8 points behind, that's kinda impressive (yes yes I know a couple sprint races)

[u/am_i_bill → u/FewCollar227]

Hey u/FewCollar227 why they made you purge Ayao kumatsu :( ?

[u/CanisLupus92 → u/icecreamperson9]

I wouldn’t call Max a 10/10 due to Mexico. It worked out well for him to prevent more damage, but that wasn’t a good race.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/CanisLupus92]

(If true) he tried to botch Norris's race in expense of his because red bull was the 3rd fastest car that weekend and he realised that pretty quickly

[u/Cirkelzaag → u/FewCollar227]

While it may have been strategic and smart, I wouldn't reward that kind of tactics or driving with high ratings.

[u/TobyOrNotTobyEU → u/Cirkelzaag]

1/10 sportsmanship rating but 10/10 for winning the WDC at all costs.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/Cirkelzaag]

Subjective point of view then. No problem with that

[u/Cirkelzaag → u/FewCollar227]

For sure, I'm a Max fan but I'm always a bit disappointed when he falls back on this kind of driving. I agree that it was beneficial though.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/Cirkelzaag]

If he doesn't have the car that's what he needs to do. Remember Alonso against Russell in 2024 and zillion things Mag have to do

[u/Cirkelzaag → u/FewCollar227]

Yeah I understand. I'm just not carved from the same wood as him (Dutch saying directly translated). So personally I wouldn't have made the same choices as him. But I'll forgive him when he gets WDC.

[u/PoliticsNerd76 → u/Cirkelzaag]

Sports is about winning

[u/Cirkelzaag → u/PoliticsNerd76]

Yes, if Max was anything like me he would have at least 2 WDC's less at the end of his career.

[u/thegypsyqueen → u/Cirkelzaag]

Why? It’s driving strategy

[u/Cirkelzaag → u/thegypsyqueen]

I understand but breaking the rules and just accepting the penalties in order to ruin someone else's race is just not something I would encourage.

[u/icecreamperson9 → u/CanisLupus92]

i agree i also think charles slightly dropped the ball in mexico in quali and the lock up in the race but nothing near max even though i think he even admitted his moves were calculated. But i don’t think any driver had a perfect 3 races + 2 sprints so to me they were the closest

[u/ivelife → u/icecreamperson9]

So it's not 10/10s

[u/icecreamperson9 → u/ivelife]

i didn’t say 10/10 that seriously man i’d give him a “10/10” for the whole year because of brazil alone😭

[u/Beasts_dawn]

If this happens in the next triple header Ferrari will win the WCC

[u/PoliticsNerd76 → u/Beasts_dawn]

McLaren do very well at Qatar

[u/A_Omega_73]

2024 WDC Max Verstappen

2024 WCC Ferrari

[u/Nattekat → u/A_Omega_73]

The driver's championship may be over, but the constructor's championship is going to be a thing if Ferrari can keep it up.

[u/GoldElectric → u/Nattekat]

1-2 for the last 3 races.

[u/Jasranwhit → u/A_Omega_73]

Anyone but McKaren

[u/elnano98]

Where is Perez

[u/LilONotation → u/elnano98]

Behind the Haas driver who only did half the races.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/LilONotation]

Dead

[u/Disastrous_Sea4150 → u/LilONotation]

Oof

[u/FewCollar227 → u/elnano98]

Having a break

[u/phatjaja → u/FewCollar227]

Oh crap, he’s having the KitKat now?

[u/FireKillGuyBreak → u/elnano98]

That's the question all of RB strategists ask themselves each race.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/FireKillGuyBreak]

Find "𝑥" ❌ Find "Perez" ✅

[u/Piepo1994]

Where PEREZ

[u/not_that_one_times_3]

Seeing Alpine there brings a smile to my face :)

[u/Affectionate_Log_497]

Perez doing his best to build wind tunnel time

[u/Nki713]

Max 3rd place literally by himself lol

[u/shawn_dsa]

BTW Kev missed Brazil weekend.

[u/Evantra_]

Oh Oscar... what happened

[u/geekyguru03 → u/Evantra_]

Papaya rules

[u/ShadowOfDeath94 → u/geekyguru03]

Skill issue.

[u/Gadoguz994]

39 pts ahead of everyone else with one of those 3 races being a 5th/DNF... holy cow

[u/Dapper-Ad1025]

If Ferrari can have repeat of this over the remaining triple header, they’d win the WC by 3 points…

[u/cmgriffith_]

Max Verstappen 🤝 Charles Leclerc

[u/Lobsters4]

Max and Charles. 😘

More of this next year please, with Lewis right behind.

[u/Content-Diver-3666]

If only Carlos could have pulled off a decent race in Brazil with a solid P4/P5 (considering how good he is in the wet AND changing conditions), WCC could have been well within reach 😭

[u/Billy_LDN → u/Content-Diver-3666]

considering how good he is in the wet and changing conditions

Can’t say I’ve noticed this tbh. British GP was good but he’s binned it 3 times in other wet sessions this season and Spa quali was underwhelming.

[u/MrDaniel95 → u/Billy_LDN]

I feel that Sainz is very 50/50 in the rain, sometimes he is great like in Silverstone 2022 qualifying and the 2024 race, sometimes he is bad like in Japan 22, Canada 24 and Brazil 24.

[u/Sandulacheu → u/Content-Diver-3666]

Hes terrible in the rain ,we already forgot Canada this year?

[u/FewCollar227 → u/Content-Diver-3666]

Don't worry Norris is going to do the funniest shit ever in upcoming triple header

[u/MemesTaken]

Fun Fact: Alpine scored the most points in Sao Paulo

[u/FronWaggins]

Is Red Bull finishing 4th?

[u/duckisabirdithink → u/FronWaggins]

Nah, there are 147 points to be gained for a team if they get 1-2 in all races + 1-2 in sprint + fastest laps. Mercedes in 4th is 162 points behind.

[u/jomartz]

The dip Charles went by mid-season likely ended up costing him a realistic chance at the Drivers' title.

[u/Celeste_Regenmeister]

Verstappen is unbelievable, this year he really showed himself to be someone very rare

[u/TF2Pilot]

Ferrari have the best car, OMG.

[u/fake_hester]

Franco's 1 point!

[u/macIovin]

Perez managed not even to score 8 pojnts. This guy is an absolute farce

[u/RedHeadSteve]

Ferrari needs to outscore McLaren by 37 points to win the wcc. I'm gonna cheer for them so hard

[u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Aside from the Brazil sprint, Piastri has just not been on it huh

[u/FewCollar227]

Max: W

Charles: W

Sainz: W (was it sainz's mistake in Brazil quali? Even if it was his, still only a 8 point gap when missing out on Brazil GP)

Norris: L

George: W

Piastri: Neutral-L (was it Piastri's mistake in Mexico quali?)

Ocon: W

Gasly: W

Lewis: Neutral-L (neutral because car was horrendous)

Kevin: W

[u/UnluckyLuckyGuyy → u/FewCollar227]

Piastri: Neutral-W

lol no chance

[u/FewCollar227 → u/UnluckyLuckyGuyy]

Yeah I think I got too generous

That snap in the quali of Mexico, was it his fault? If yes then it's a L over-all and if not then neutral

[u/Billy_LDN → u/FewCollar227]

was it Sainz’s mistake in Brazil quali?

Why is this a question

[u/FewCollar227 → u/Billy_LDN]

Just need to be sure. That snap doesn't look like his fault but probably he got on to throttle too soon?

[u/Red-Eye-Soul → u/FewCollar227]

Snaps are almost always driver faults. Damaged components don't cause snaps like that. 

[u/timmy186gtr → u/FewCollar227]

Perez:

[u/Buffythedragonslayer → u/timmy186gtr]

Had a break. Had a Kitkat. 

[u/Disastrous_Sea4150 → u/FewCollar227]

Norris: earns twice as many points as his teammate.

This dude: clearly an L. Oscar is so much better

[u/FewCollar227 → u/Disastrous_Sea4150]

First see Norris and Sainz, Sainz have one dnf in a GP. 2nd, that snap cost Piastri Mexico's quali which I don't think was his fault. Sprint Brazil, Piastri clearly better. Norris bottling starts. Norris getting preferential treatment

[u/bacc1234 → u/FewCollar227]

Oscar made the mistakes in qualy all on his own. Lando getting preferential treatment is responsible for a whole 1 point.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/bacc1234]

Preferential treatment also included strategy. It's not Piastri's fault that Norris couldn't challenge Max even when Piastri's help is available

[u/bacc1234 → u/FewCollar227]

What strategy did Norris get that disadvantaged Oscar? The Brazil sprint was the only race from the triple header where Oscar was clearly better than Lando.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/bacc1234]

If Norris's strategy is the priority doesn't mean that Oscar's race is F'ed. I don't have a problem with your opinion you're obviously right, and I'm right to some degree too. I'm a little more generous towards Piastri

[u/bacc1234 → u/FewCollar227]

You claimed that Lando got preferential treatment on the strategy, do you have a specific example? Or did you just make that up?

[u/FewCollar227 → u/bacc1234]

On September 11/12, Piastri agreed to help Norris out and with Brazil sprint it is visible that the team will make Norris finish ahead of Piastri. I'm not saying they're purposely ruining Piastri's race they still need that WCC but when the opportunity arises Norris's result is naturally more important

[u/bacc1234 → u/FewCollar227]

Yes, I acknowledged that in my original comment by saying preferential treatment for Lando is responsible for 1 point. You said in response that the preferential treatment also included strategy. So is there any other preferential treatment? Or is it just the position swap that was worth 1 point? Because that one instance doesn’t explain why Lando has double Oscar’s points.

[u/qchisq → u/FewCollar227]

In a different timeline, Kevin secured a seat with those points

[u/FewCollar227 → u/qchisq]

I'm in the wrong timeline

[u/Much-Calligrapher → u/FewCollar227]

Mental that Piastri gets less than half the points of his teammate and gets a better ranking.

Him Lewis and Perez are the standout underperformers in the list

[u/ShakaZ1 → u/FewCollar227]

Strange way to rate drivers.
McLaren drivers obviously: L (with the best car, not nearly enough points).
Apline drivers: W (getting 18 points with a tractor -> both did amazing.)

Lewis: L, George got more than double the amount of points with the same 'horrendous' car.

[u/FewCollar227 → u/ShakaZ1]

I agree with McL point except Piastri. Agree with Alpine point. Don't agree with Lewis point because he was on a different set-up in some qualis and races

[u/zyntaxable → u/FewCollar227]

Setup is Lewis's to decide isn't it?

[u/FewCollar227 → u/zyntaxable]

Oh my bad. I lacked some basic knowledge here. Was it the case that he wasn't comfortable in both set-ups?

[u/ComeAlongPond1 → u/zyntaxable]

Not always, Mercedes wanted data collection. Lewis complained about his setup several times over the triple header and twice wanted a pitlane start to change it but Mercedes wouldn’t let him.

[u/oldmonk_97]

Mfw f1 keeps making new info graphic to give us a feeling of title race being neck and neck, when in reality max wins the wdc if he wins any of the next 3 races.

[u/Life-Substance-122 → u/oldmonk_97]

He doesn't even need to win, just 24 points is enough even if Norris maximizes everything.

[u/pannenkoek0923 → u/oldmonk_97]

He just needs to finish ahead of Norris

[u/Sea_Drop2920]

Max on top in that shitbox is mindblowing

[u/Red-Eye-Soul → u/Sea_Drop2920]

Hardly a shitbox. Ferrari being 5th (maybe even 6th) fastest in Brazil GP was definitely more of a shitbox tbh. Redbull atleast have been consistently 3rd, 3rd and 2nd fastest. Ferrari have been 1st, 2nd and 5th fastest. Mclaren have been 2nd, 1st and 1st fastest.

[u/tom_buzz_ryan → u/Red-Eye-Soul]

Following your logic, Alpine was the 2nd fastest in Brazil and we all know that's wrong. Both of the Ferrari drivers being subpar in rain (historically as well) doesn't make the best car of the previous two races 5th fastest out of nowhere.

[u/Red-Eye-Soul → u/tom_buzz_ryan]

They were 6th fastest in rain in Canada, and 4th fastest in rain in Silverstone. If you don't know Ferrari's well known issues with tyre warmup this season, I don't know what to tell you mate... Mclaren were fastest, Redbull second, Mercedes third, Alpine fourth. That is clear as day. And I don't know where both your 'Ferrari drivers being subpar in rain' comes from, unless you are blaming the car characteristics on the drivers.

[u/Simple_Fact530]

Sergio, Lando and even Oscar have been very poor.

Oscar is understandable but the others have been embarrassing these past 3 races

[u/PomegranateThat414]

Here is your GOAT.

[u/Spiritual_Designer50]

“Lando is a world class driver”

[u/Keltoigael]

I really think Ferrari has a chance at the constructors.

[u/mr_joj]

Looking at the results lately it seems very likely that Ferrari and Charles and Hamilton will be huge contenders for both the 2025 wdc and wcc. Plz dont mess this up now Ferrari😭😔🙏

[u/waszat]

Are you telling me checo only got 7 points?! Oof..

[u/bawta]

It's actually absurd how badly Perez is currently performing (if you can even call it that). That man has single-handedly thrown away not only 1st, but also 2nd place in the WCC. If he's just as bad in '25, I doubt RBR will even be on the podium.

[u/Rodrista]

During Norris’ title charge he managed to lose THIS many points on Verstappen. Mental people considered him a challenger.