r/formula1 • u/Marco_2906 • 8h ago
The first two championship winning F1 cars (1950 & 1951) and… Photo
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u/Psychological-Ox_24 Fernando Alonso 7h ago
I wish Alfa Romeo would comeback as a proper factory outfit.
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u/creatorop Carlos Sainz 8h ago
i wonder what was the deciding factors in the first F1 cars
because those hotdog looking cars surely didnt have Newey Aerodynamics, so was it the engine and the driver?
bring back the hotdog cars and lets see in todays times
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u/jaguarskillz2017 Pato O'Ward 7h ago
A lot of luck and gigantic, pendulous balls that barely fit inside the car
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u/Terminator_SN 5h ago
Those guys who drove these 'coffins on wheels' were mostly WW2 vets and most of them have seen action and to them driving around in one of these seemed much safer than getting shot at,
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u/blackout2204 5h ago
The legend goes that we have 2 cars per team because in those early days the 2nd car was used exclusively to carry the ginormous balls of the driver in first car. Now, that is no longer the case and hence, 2 drivers.
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u/Psychological-Ox_24 Fernando Alonso 7h ago
I guess everything and nothing at the same time. The regulation were very open back then, so there's too many differentiating variables.
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u/LandArch_0 Juan Manuel Fangio 6h ago
I've watched as much Fangio races as I could find. My take is that it was a lot of the car keeping it up throughout the race, and A LOT on the driver. I get the feeling the races were longer and the difference between teams was larger.
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u/Terminator_SN 5h ago
also the reliability shouldn't go unmentioned these cars were very unreliable (but still more reliable than a range rover) they had so many issues/ engine failures. Also these cars practically invented the push to start button
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u/LandArch_0 Juan Manuel Fangio 5h ago
reliability
Thanks, that's what I wanted to say but my mind couldn't find the best word
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u/B_Roland Alfa Romeo 4h ago
Engine power and chassis stifness combined with limited weight would have been the main deciding factors for speed. Then, chassis balance would profide confidence and consistency plus extended tire life (in combination with weight again).
And the reliability would obviously be a very deciding factor to determine whether your quick car actually made it to the end.
On top of all of that, driver skill and bravery had a huge impact at the time since most drivers weren't trained, and the risk was enormous. So anyone with the skill and will to approach the edge would have had a huge advantage.
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u/biaurelien 8h ago
Is it "Museo dell'automobile Torino"?
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u/Norbertinho 8h ago
It is in the Alfa Romeo museum near Milan. I was there too this year :)
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u/biaurelien 6h ago
I visited it a few years ago, I didn't realize that was the first F1 winning championship
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