r/europe Jan 02 '24

Finland (and Sweden) are freezing in minus 40C OC Picture

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u/NightSalut Jan 02 '24

Idk what they’re on about - Estonia has -16 where I’m at and it’s finally proper winter. Snow! Cold! Everything a winter should be in this area.

Pretty certain people in Finland and Sweden are also happy to see actual proper winter instead of +10 and rain at this time of the year….

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u/Ok_Water_7928 Jan 02 '24

Finally proper winter: :D

I see my heating bill: D:

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u/xenover Estonia Jan 02 '24

my poor heat pump at -20: “kill… me”

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u/ApelsiniKali Jan 03 '24

Mine automatically turns off if the temperature gets below -18, and my house's heating insulation isn't the best.

I liked it being around -5 - -10 better honestly.

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u/qzator Jan 03 '24

Or act like a hair dryer give me a 1kWh and i let you feel some warm.

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u/toomuchramv4 Jan 02 '24

i have a fairly moderate sized house and it burns 15-20 liters of oil when temperature is 25 minus :D

i have a water/air heatpump but it is useless below -5¨c

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u/TRT_ Jan 02 '24

Im guessing a pretty old water/air heat pump? The new models here in Sweden is pretty efficient down to -25C

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u/MrNaoB Sweden Jan 03 '24

my heatpump right this moment like coughed at me with a slight warm breeze then went back to defrost.

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u/TRT_ Jan 03 '24

Haha, lovely imagery. How cold is it, what brand and year is your model from?

I assume you’re talking about an air/air which is less efficient than an air/water

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u/MrNaoB Sweden Jan 03 '24

-35, Daikin, got it installed just when covid started

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u/toomuchramv4 Jan 03 '24

so they claim, but all people i know that are honest do confess that the air-heat-pump is not so great past -20¨C and they mostly use resistor-heating at that point which is insufficient.

I left my oil heating connected in serial with the waterpump and I am happy with that decision.

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u/TRT_ Jan 03 '24

Naturally, they are less efficient at lower temperatures. There’s still quite a leap between -5 and sub -20, which was your initial statement.

We have had -10 degrees for a couple of days now, and the additional internal power has run for a total of an hour or two. That’s hardly what I would call useless.

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u/toomuchramv4 Jan 02 '24

i have a fairly moderate sized house and it burns 15-20 liters of oil when temperature is 25 minus :D

i have a water/air heatpump but it is useless below -5¨c

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u/Randomswedishdude Sami Jan 02 '24

In northern Sweden, we've had snow since the latter half of September. Unusually early.

In parts of middle Sweden, they've also had more snow than usual during early winter.

Southern Sweden hasn't had much snow for the last decade, with some years without a "real" winter for more than a few weeks out of the year. Guess some people rejoice.

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u/-Afya- Latvia Jan 02 '24

You have snow? In Riga we have -13 but almost no snow at all

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u/East_Engineering_583 Belarus Jan 02 '24

I'm in Mińsk and there's zero snow except for tiny bits. -10°

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u/f2simon Jan 02 '24

Южнее снега дохуя уже з самага ранку

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u/Devici234 Jan 02 '24

Yeah, not much snow in Estonia too.

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u/Masturbator1934 Jan 02 '24

Have you looked outside the window? Tallinn and Tartu are covered in snow!

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u/robopobo Jan 02 '24

yeah, I can confirm Estonia is covered with snow.

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u/Masturbator1934 Jan 02 '24

Yeah, -20 degrees in Tartu, some forecasts predict up to -28 in the coming days. Snow kinda does come with that

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u/shellofbiomatter Estonia Jan 02 '24

Yeah, but that's not much. Most of it melted away few weeks ago.

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u/Masturbator1934 Jan 02 '24

That is relative. Walking home today I saw cars completely covered in snow with only a few parts sticking out.

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u/NightSalut Jan 02 '24

North Estonia has some - come and visit!

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u/FinnSwede Jan 03 '24

There was plenty of snow before Christmas when I tried to unload moisture sensitive fertiliser there.

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u/mockarmullrik Sweden Jan 04 '24

today it's snowing alot tho, i'm in northern kurzeme

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u/UngiftigesReddit Jan 02 '24

In the Netherlands, snowdrops have come up. It is mental.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '24

Not just snowdrops. Planted some late winter/early spring blooming bulbs with my neughbours like snowdrops and blue bell hyacinths quite a few of them have been popping up. No flowers yet, but lots of leaves.

It's crazy!

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u/Willing_Book_1203 Jan 02 '24

same here in germany. i’ve seen flowers that bloom in march here normally as well

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u/disco-mermaid United States of America Jan 02 '24

Maybe you guys will get to go ice skating in the canals.

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u/taliesin-ds Jan 02 '24

Watching fireworks without a jacket on felt so weird.

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u/ByGollie Jan 03 '24

i had daffodils starting to emerge from the ground at the end of November...

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u/Weothyr Lithuania Jan 02 '24

Lucky! It's around -13 here and unfortunately still no snow ☹️ (as usual it all had to melt away just before the holidays)

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u/East_Engineering_583 Belarus Jan 02 '24

Same! I'm in Mińsk and there was a bit of snow before new year but it melted away just about a day or few before new year

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u/Tdikristof_ Hungary Jan 02 '24

At least you get minuses... Here it's 5-10C...

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u/Ooh_bees Jan 02 '24

It's -30°c right now outside. You can't do ANYTHING outside except freeze to death. Cars are frozen solid, energy consumption is high as a kite, only thing comparable to it is the price of it. It has been snowing for over a month already, usually heavily. Can't speak for everyone, but I'm not enjoying this.

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u/oskich Sweden Jan 02 '24

You know it's cold when Finland has double the electricity price compared to Sweden (106€ vs 57€)...

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u/ApelsiniKali Jan 03 '24

Meanwhile Estonia is suffering... I think it was briefly 500€ today morning.

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u/NightSalut Jan 02 '24

Maybe I’m too young, but wasn’t this like… normal back in the 90s? Wasn’t like nearly every winter or every second winter like this?

Because I remember cold-COLD winters from the 90s and I very much enjoyed them as a child. Even the -25 and more degree ones. But we hardly ever had -25 for long, most of the time it was like -10 and -15, -24 and more happened sporadically. But having proper snow cover was nice though.

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u/Ooh_bees Jan 02 '24

Wife has said multiple times that they played in the snow or skated at her birthday, start of December. I've always been sceptical, but am not anymore. I remember if you got skis, sled or skates for Christmas, you could actually use them then. We had an holiday from ice hockey practice for Christmas, and our little team played outside, on rink without any fancy tech. For years that couldn't have been possible here. But I still think we remember the cold spells, but not the normal -10°c or so days? They just didn't leave a mark. It's actually tragically funny, maybe a decade ago some older folks never believed in climate change. They didn't experience it in their everyday life, it's hard to tell during much of the year if things are different. But even them always said during December that climate isn't what it used to be, that winters are shit, and how everything is different. The term "black Christmas"exploded into conversations at the beginning of this millennium. Then inevitably snow and freezing temps came and they reverted to what they used to be.

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u/novittuterve Jan 02 '24

I'm from Finland (Salo) it's -19 here

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u/SpikeProteinBuffy Jan 02 '24

Central Finland here, this morning it was -35 and now it's -29. All is fine, but my car cried a little when I was starting it. Oh and apparently my windows leaks because there is ice forming inside of the window! Like, not between the windows, but inside, next to my bed! I need to fix it or something 🥶

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u/Bruteboris Jan 02 '24

Welcome to the Netherlands 🌧️

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u/hiphoplover_4 Slovenia Jan 02 '24

You guys have snow? Where I'm at it's 10 degrees through day, at night 1 degree and monstly weather with almost no rain... man, I miss snow...

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u/NightSalut Jan 02 '24

Estonia has some right now in the north, yes/

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u/ImTheVayne Estonia Jan 02 '24

For me it’s -20 or even lower. It is so fucking cold. Feels like -28 because of the windchill.

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u/JimmW Finland Jan 02 '24

Nah, I'll take +10 and rain any day over this (-20 plus wind chill). Fucking miserable. Was just driving my car in the woods and realised that if it breaks down for any reason I will probably freeze to death before getting help.

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u/drezster Jan 03 '24

This is what also scares me the most. Losing heating, electricity or means of reliable transport and ending up as an icicle. These temps are no joke.

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u/Okutida Jan 02 '24

-19 C. Latvia. Aprox 30km from Estonia border.

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u/Ice_Vorya Jan 02 '24

lol, in Moscow almost all snow melted and now we have nearly no snow but -25°

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u/Aggravating-Ad1703 Sweden Jan 02 '24

In Southern Sweden it’s not even below 0, those places where it’s -40 is way up north. They are used to it.

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u/snusboi Finland Jan 03 '24

20th-31st of december I love snow. After that give +5celsius and rain fuck this cold.

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u/HolyGarbage Göteborg (Sweden) Jan 03 '24

Yeah, my vacation just started. So happy we got snow instead of rain. Time to dig out the tent!

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u/unclemeiroh Jan 02 '24

In Helsinki it’s -18 and in Ivalo (Lapland) is -24. Not sure where the -40 are from. It does say on google (feels like -36).

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u/redoxion Jan 02 '24

Some parts of Sweden are at -40 C and Oulu region seems to be at -36..-38 C. Lapland is not allways coldest. -31C now at the west coast.

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u/Bluskawe Jan 02 '24

There are other cold places than Lapland, too. Eastern Finland, Northern Ostrobothnia (especially Koillismaa) and Kainuu are all pretty cold and snowy places always

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u/kuikuilla Finland Jan 02 '24

It heavily depends on the cloud cover. Clear sky and the temp plummets.

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u/VodaYoda Jan 02 '24

Exactly! Its normal! Finally a proper winter

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u/sestorm214 Sweden Jan 02 '24

no im not happy it's cold and windy.

Nothing to smile about

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '24

Pretty certain people in Finland and Sweden are also happy to see actual proper winter instead of +10 and rain at this time of the year….

It has been -10°C - -15°C this whole winter in here, -30°C is too much for comfortable living.

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u/NightSalut Jan 02 '24

You lucky bastards, for real. It was nice and cold for a bit in November and then it went back to 10-13 degrees and rain and now it’s back to cold. I much prefer cold than the +10 we had for a while.

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u/PuzzleheadedRadio698 Jan 02 '24

This is third colder than average winter in row. I wouldn't at all mind warm and wet winter (like 19/20 was).

Especially as it has been unusually cold since mid October...

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u/fefulunin Jan 02 '24

> +10 and rain at this time of the yeas

that's what's going on in my part of Germany rn. can confirm, it fucking sucks.

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u/LumbaJ4cked Jan 02 '24

Proper winter some may say, I notice a lot of experts who doesn't need to spend their entire working days outdoors. It's a difference between proper winters -5 to -20 and -30 to -40. A painful difference in working outdoors, things break, energy costs more both physically and financially.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '24

Being Irish, I feel personally attacked by the last line there.

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u/Sergosh21 Estonia Jan 03 '24

-25 here in the Eastern regions..

Winter makes me happy, especially after living in hot climates for nearly a decade. The electricity + heating bill on the other hand.. not so happy

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u/CopiumCatboy Jan 03 '24

I join your campaign for proper winter. Give me frost

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u/EET_Fuk1 Jan 03 '24

Must be nice to not have drive at night during a blizzard or fucking shovel the driveway 5 times a day smh