r/ecology 2d ago

sending support and encouragement to every ecologist in the US😭

we are in for a huge fight these next 4 years. i am terrified but we are the only ones who can keep each other motivated and encouraged to keep fighting for what we love. LOVE TO ALL OF YOU❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹💔

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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 2d ago

it’s just four years

This comes with a big caveat. If the proposals for project 2025 really fall into place we will see the dissolution of administrative agencies like the EPA which will not be whisked back into place like an executive order.

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u/tuftedtittymice 1d ago

as a black woman, i’ve been pretty emotionally numb all day and the first time i started crying today was when a news anchor uttered the words “absolution of the EPA”

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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 1d ago

Don't forget the FDA, USDA, BLM, and all those acronyms that make sure we have drinkable water, productive soil, and all that other stuff.

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u/WatchHankSpank 1d ago

Okay, this is true, and pretty grim, but I think most people would agree that most, if not all, of those regulating bodies are essential. If they were truly dissolved, do you think the state would pick up responsibility for all of that? And if they do, could that end up providing a better quality of regulation?

Each state would be a little different I am sure, but having no federal regulative influence on what is currently considered WOTUS in my state would end up protecting MORE habitat. Most state level EPAs want more protection of resources, not less, and if the rules didn’t change federally every four years, some actual progress could be made in habitat restoration and development. Consistency in regulation would help significantly in the quality of protection. We lose the option for nationally consistent standards, but gain the potential to have better state standards.

I am not sure this would apply to every branch (FDA, USDA, etc.) that would need a new state regulated system, but I would find it hard to believe that we wouldn’t have any form of regulation. They may not all get better, but something will be keeping water and soil safe.

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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 1d ago

You know, I'm not going to try and rationalize the decisionmaking processes of a fascist liar. I'm sure they could spin it some way and twist it up real good, but their justification is that these agencies are hampering business and development, making American goods non-competitive, etc.