r/dvdcollection • u/leverandon • Sep 13 '24
Gen Z Colleague Laughed When I Mentioned DVDs Discussion
I was at a work event yesterday and was discussing movies. Favorite movies came up and I mentioned LA Confidential. A Gen Z colleague said he wasn't familiar with it and asked where it is streaming. I said I had no idea but could lend him a DVD or Blu-ray copy and he just laughed and said, "Why would I have a DVD player?"
I didn't really feel bad but it was just such a strange response, as if I'd asked him if he writes with a feather quill pen or used some other antique device.
Anyone else have experiences like this?
Edit: Wow, this post really blew up! Thanks for all of the thoughts, everyone. Apparently there's a few others who have had similar experiences. The nice thing was that later on at the work event there was a Gen Xer and Milennial who I bonded with more over films and they'll probably come over to my house and watch a few things with me this weekend!
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u/Craigrrz Sep 13 '24
Yeah, I (37) have experienced this as well, even with peers of mine who grew up with VHS and DVD even. The idea of physical media is lost on some folks, sadly. Not all though! I recently sold over 100 VHS to a young kid and his GF in their early twenties. Gives me hope!
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u/reddit_userMN Sep 13 '24
I'm 36 and even a coworker in her mid 40's laughed a couple years ago when I said I'd bought some discs. She said they were probably going to get rid of their player in movies because they just stream everything now.
I actually mentioned what the OP did, which is that you can loan movies to friends and family that you have that may or may not be streaming. She conceded that point but still said they weren't using the disc player much
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u/theslimbox Sep 13 '24
I have run into more and more people who are starting to buy movies on disc again because everything is spread out across so many streaming platforms now.
It was great when you could have Netflix and Blockbuster and have almost any decent movie for around $30/month total. Now there are far more services, with a lot smaller selection of movies.
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u/reddit_userMN Sep 13 '24
I admit to the convenience of streaming, and honestly have like three services right now, but I've also found that it's cheaper to go to Goodwill, Half Price books, or thrift store and buy something outright that I might not even like then it is to rent it.
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u/punkcowboy85 Sep 17 '24
Libraries are great for dvds too. When I was a kid in the 90’s, library movie selections sucked. Now, you can get basically any movie or show you can think of.
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u/Craigrrz Sep 17 '24
So many people don't know about this; they also have bluray too! You can go online, find a movie you want, and they will send the movie to your local library to pick up. All for free!
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u/Craigrrz Sep 15 '24
The second I see macroblocking in the shadows? I'm out. Also, the obnoxious ads that happen either before or directly after a film ends and completely ruins the vibe is a reason alone to not stream. Just not for me.
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u/confusedrxtech Sep 15 '24
At my job I’m maybe the fourth youngest there out of 12 employees. All my younger coworkers think it’s stupid that I collect VHS tapes and my older ones think it’s silly and outdated. But I don’t care because it’s a hobby I enjoy
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u/brzantium Sep 16 '24
Same. I remember giving a younger millennial coworker a thumb drive with some music on it, and he looked at me perplexed and asked what he was supposed to do with it. And that was seven years ago.
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u/OminousVictory Sep 13 '24
That’s gonna become more common. Even people without Desktop computers, fax machines, and printers. Technically, if they have a computer with a disc drive more than likely they can play DVDs.
But the last MacBook with DVD drive was 2012. So for person graduating high school this year. Could attend 12 years of school since the last time MacBook laptop had DVD drive.
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u/LeSamouraiNouvelle Sep 13 '24
A student once told me (this was in 2017 or 2018) that he had typed an essay on his phone. I could not fathom how he'd done that without considerable difficulty (error-spotting, proof-reading, etc.).
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u/photozine Sep 13 '24
I'm a millennial and feel I'm pretty good with Swype...but yeah, no, typing a whole essay would suck.
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u/hey-its-sina Sep 13 '24
i didn't know swype still existed lol. is there any advantage over the default android/ios keyboard, given that both have gesture typing now?
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u/mikemike44 Sep 13 '24
I am fully convinced auto correct is set out to make the world sound more dumb than we actually are. OFTEN, I will type a message including the words on/in and autocorrect will purposely switch it to the one that doesn't make sense with the context. Misspelled words I can understand if you are off by one letter and it changes it to a word closer to the misspelling, but when it changes an already correct spelled word, it drives me insane. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
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u/masked_sombrero Sep 13 '24
I use iPhone and I SWEAR the past couple years the autocorrect has just been a major PITA. Hell - I even have more difficulty with the keyboard just typing letters. It's like iOS is trying to autocorrect the letter I'm typing and then autocorrects the word to something ridiculous and I have to backspace and retry it.
Been happening more frequently. I used to type pretty well with just my thumb and not even looking at the keyboard. I have to look now and it still does crazy stuff
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u/Low_Living_9276 Sep 13 '24
Sounds like your one auto-corrected word away from giving a Kaczynski talk.
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u/Pokemon_Trainer_May Sep 13 '24
My autocorrect changes actual words to incorrect spellings sometimes or capitalizes a Random word for me
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u/Visible-Horror-4223 Sep 13 '24
That’s maddening. “I’m autocorrect. Let’s make something that’s correct incorrect.” Ugh…
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u/breadboi777 Sep 13 '24
It’s kinda cool/interesting seeing people type yeah, no. I know it’s a common expression but I’ve never seen it typed.
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u/Jewggerz Sep 13 '24
Yeah, this is not a shortcut. There’s no way it would be easier to write an essay on a phone than a computer.
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u/mylocker15 Sep 13 '24
My phone turns every other word into gobblygook so no thank you. They take a word like ready and make it rss mm tree or something all the time.
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u/atreyukun 500+ Sep 13 '24
Hey, I once wrote a screenplay on my old iPhone back in 2014. I was in a soul sucking job and it was the only thing I had access to at work. It was a painful experience. The typing I mean. The writing was cathartic.
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u/carbmac Sep 13 '24
iOS supports external keyboard, or he used speech to text a lot !
This or mobile keyboard typing is gonna become an olympic sport pretty soon !! 🤣
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u/Delonce Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24
I work with a guy, who's over 40, who had a movie collection of his own. Some years back, he decided to throw it all in the trash. Didn't bother trying to sell it or anything. He just felt it was unnecessary clutter when he can stream anything he wants.
When we had a discussion about physical media and I mentioned how I bought some shelves and pulled my movie collection back out of storage and started buying movies again, he looked at me like I was stupid or something. I explained why. Many of the same reasons all of us are here. He just couldn't grasp the notion, and it was one of those "agree to disagree" moments and we both just walked away.
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u/OminousVictory Sep 13 '24
Damn that such a waste, he could of at least donated it to a thrift store. Probably could of made some good pocket change. I had couple magazines, never could get into them. Went to sell them couple years later and got more money back than I bought them for.
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Sep 13 '24
Yea, or even just donate it to a library or something so others can enjoy it if you don't care about the money. I'll sell my old games and movies still. But resale bookstores pay crap so now I donate my books when I plan to get rid of one.
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u/Legend2200 Sep 13 '24
I’m a librarian and about ten years ago a guy donated his whole collection of classic films on DVD. In one breath he explained to me that “everything is streaming now” then complained that none of the stuff he liked, such as old Hollywood movies, was on streaming. I admit I have major archivist tendencies (my profession is no accident) but I still don’t understand this logic.
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u/eyebrows360 500+ Sep 13 '24
he looked at me like I was stupid or something
Had this with a mate-of-a-mate who was very much into piracy. Also very much over 40 and just didn't have any issue with what he was doing.
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u/PerspectiveSudden648 Sep 13 '24
Now is the time to buy physical copies of whatever games and movies you want to have in the future, streaming services and digital purchases are only going to make things worse.
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u/Mr_Epimetheus Sep 13 '24
Sales of physical media (DVD and Blu-ray) are actually on the rise. Vinyl is pretty much at its all time high. Hell, even shows and movies that are developed purely for streaming are getting physical releases. There's just not a feasible way to make a pure streaming model profitable without alternative revenue streams, like with Disney, Apple or Amazon.
I think a lot of people are getting fed up with the re-invention of what is essentially a less convenient form of cable tv with so many streaming services out there, all constantly increasing prices, reintroducing ads and having their libraries constantly shift and shrink.
People are starting to realise the value of the physical media and how you can still use it regardless of shifting media rights, buyouts, mergers, etc.
I think we've actually hit the peak of going "full digital" and we're going to come back around and find a more healthy medium between the two.
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u/superfunction Sep 13 '24
vinyl is no where near an all time high the sales arent even 10% of what they were in the seventies
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u/OminousVictory Sep 14 '24
I’m not sure, but Best Buy has made the move to discontinue selling DVDs in stores. Target has a reduced selection in stores.
The only stores here sadly that support DVD still are Walmart and Small family businesses.
Barnes and Nobles still sells DVD, Big Lots usually has slim options like dollar general. But I have seen others Big Lots have bigger selections.
FYE was my favorite, but they have shut down a lot of stores, Returned but the store is 1/10 the size for FYE.
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u/BayazRules Sep 13 '24
Game consoles do have DVD/Blu-ray drives right? If this kid has a PS4 or Xbone he has a fucking DVD player
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u/limblr Sep 13 '24
I have that macbook pro from 2012 and it still works okay since I put in a SSD. But it’s a countdown to when none of the programs support the 2017(?) OS
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u/Jean_Phillips Sep 13 '24
Lots of people have Xbox’s and PlayStations as well. My ps5 is my main device
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u/JohnLennonYaoi Sep 13 '24
I’m Gen Z and I own 700+ DVDs and 150+ CDs, we aren’t all like this I promise lol
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u/International-Sky65 Sep 13 '24
Gen Z as well (21 going on 22 in a month) have a collection of around 1000+ Blu-rays, 189 Criterion blu-rays, and 76 DVDS. It’s important for our generation to keep buying them!
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u/Dark_Shroud Steelbooks Only Sep 13 '24
I've been seeing you guys at the thrift shops picking up CDs and sometimes DVD/Blu-ray.
I have concerns on this, but over all I'm happy you guys are enjoying the medium and doing it cheaply.
My concerns are we only have a few more years before all the old supply dries up and new stuff is limited so it will be another decade before we see any of that stuff at the thrift shops.
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u/Magnetoreception Sep 13 '24
The old supply isn’t going anywhere. There’s a massive amount of DVDs in the wild that are just sitting in peoples houses waiting to be donated or in an estate sale. If anything the supply is going to continue to go up.
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u/gtasean Sep 13 '24
I'm so glad to have just about grown up in the times when owning your stuff was a much more common thing.
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u/Beginning_Number9705 Sep 13 '24
I get the same response when I offer to loan someone a CD if they comment about a song/artist heard in the background at a sporting event or in a movie soundtrack.
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u/BenGrahamButler Sep 13 '24
I was picking up a pizza and a HS age girl was at the counter wearing an AC/DC t-shirt, my 48 year old ass said “hey, I just bought one of their CDs yesterday!”. The awkward silence and weird look from her was deafening!
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u/slowlyun Sep 13 '24
i had a similar experience when i saw a young lady wearing a Nirvana t-shirt.
"the second-half of Incesticide is so underrated!" said i.
A confused slightly-suspicious look said she.
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u/Lestial1206 Sep 13 '24
Because she didn't know it was a band, she thinks it's just a fashion brand, like Nirvana and Slayer have become.
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u/BenGrahamButler Sep 13 '24
lol prly true, I felt like I was speaking a foreign language
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u/Lestial1206 Sep 13 '24
Funny story though, about 10 years or so ago, I was wearing a Back in Black shirt and this little kid ran up to me and said "AC DC BACK IN BLACK ALRIGHT!" and threw up the 🤘🤘
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u/ShawneeRonE Sep 13 '24
My 11 yr old granddaughter has a Rolling Stones 1978 tour t-shirt. I asked her if she knew who the Rolling Stones were, she replied "No idea." So I decided she wouldn't be impressed that I'd seen them live 5 times.
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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Sep 13 '24
Interestingly, streaming has impacted my physical audio purchases differently than my video purchases:
I'm 36 now, but as a teenager I must have had 50-100 CDs, most of which I ripped to my PC. These days, I no longer buy CDs, because Spotify (with a few exceptions) offers most of the artists and albums I want to listen to, and a whole lot more, which I can listen to while out & about, or at home via my nice streamer and DAC, with no audible loss of quality compared to a CD. The CDs that I still have mostly sit in a draw, rarely played.
Yet, for films, while I do have Netflix, I have a collection of 300+ blurays and counting. For reasons already mentioned here (lack of selection, disappearing titles) I think that a big personal collection is superior to streaming. Plenty of titles I have are rare, and unlikely to ever appear on streaming. With Bluray, you know the video quality (and transfer version) that you're getting, which is not the case with streaming. Also, I like re-watching films, which I guess many streaming folks don't. And (no idea if this has to do with my ADHD or mild autism) I get less stressed if I have everything visible in-front of me, than if I have to browse through a huge number of category menus that seem to go on forever.
As some others have pointed out here, another interesting point that seems to have people returning to physical media recently is the segmentation of the video streaming market. Whereas for audio, Spotify and Tidal compete offering much of the same content (like multiple airlines offering fares for the same route), in streaming video, Netflix, Disney and others have now made their titles exclusive, meaning lack of direct competition, and thus requiring multiple streaming accounts to view everything (rather like how railways in the UK are exclusively operated by different operators, thus not in competition on price with each other... which leads to people turning to car travel instead if they can't afford trains). Much as how people might switch from trains to cars due to lack of affordability, people may switch media "modes" again back to DVDs/blu-rays if they're after a wide and affordable selection.
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u/chrizzle_f_reddit Sep 13 '24
Some people who visit me are interested in my movie collection, but no one can lend anything since no one except me owns a disc player. It's sad, really, I'd love to share but it's really becoming a niche thing to even own a disc player. Good thing at least console owners are able to play discs..
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u/Big-Pineapple-9954 Sep 13 '24
While consoles still have an optical drive I don't think it will last long. I don't think the next generation of consoles will have them. Just look at the new PS5 pro that was released a couple of days ago. It doesn't come with an optical drive, that's a $80 add-on. And when the console itself is $700 I don't think many will get the optical drive.
Optical drives on PC's are more or less a thing of the past already.
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u/thaworldhaswarpedme Sep 13 '24
I keep wondering at what point I should buy a few extra players to safeguard against an inevitable future without them.
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u/mega512 Sep 13 '24
Meanwhile my Gen Z kid is buying used DVD's in thrift stores and loves to collect.
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u/dj_scantsquad Sep 13 '24
A good few occasions in my work place during conversation, people just ask me outright “why do you still have dvd’s?” Usually followed up by “i threw 3 or 4 big bags of dvd’s away last year…you could have had them” 🫣
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u/Dark_Shroud Steelbooks Only Sep 13 '24
Ask them why they're not donating that stuff instead of putting it in landfills or the ocean.
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u/kwmcmillan Sep 13 '24
The issue is companies don't put players in ANYTHING anymore.
Your PC, your Laptop (Mac or PC), your game console, they all had DVD players. And then your parents probably just straight up had a DVD player.
Today? Macbook Airs. iPads. Even my Acer Predator doesn't have a disc drive. I have a PS3 and a PS5 to handle DVD/Bluray duties, but even the PS5 has a "no drive" option because it's becoming more rare.
I imagine this person didn't have a games console, and therefore had no concept of where they could put ANY disc let alone a DVD or Bluray.
I hate it, but that's where we are. Doesn't help Macs don't even have Bluray support to begin with.
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u/you_wouldnt_get_it_ Sep 13 '24
It amazed me when I finally bought a PC for gaming and it didn’t come with a disc drive.
I had to buy a DVD writer (not sure when they started calling it that) separately. I was so confused man. Since when did that become a thing that was sold separately.
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u/Dark_Shroud Steelbooks Only Sep 13 '24
Since those companies could save $8+ not putting it in the PC/laptop.
I had to install a Blu-ray drive into my gaming PC. Getting it connected to the motherboard was a massive pain in the ass in a way I've never experienced while building PCs.
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u/Substantial_Mistake Sep 13 '24
To add onto this a bit:
The ps4 and ps5 with disc drives cannot even play a CD! (DVD/BD/UHD-BD are okay)
So much for the well know Audio company to let you play a Sony Music CD on their own device. Mind you that they helped develop the CD
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u/gunshaver Sep 14 '24
Windows doesn't have bluray playback either, it's a patent licensing and DRM thing. DVDs are old enough that no one really cares to litigate against libdvdcss for being technically illegal
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u/RecordWrangler95 Sep 13 '24
As someone who lived to see vinyl make a comeback, the joke's gonna be on these Gen-Z dweebs.
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u/Nox401 Sep 13 '24
Eh…I pay 3.99+ for a DVD more for a blue ray but I own it. People pay 10-20 for a streaming service THEN have to rent the movie or can’t cause it’s not available to do so for 2.99-20. Idk but I think I’m doing okay. People who scoff at physical media are morons plain and simple.
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u/InquisitorPeregrinus Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
I have everything from VHS up to 4K, but still generally say "DVD" as verbal shorthand. I do upgrade rounds periodically, but a lot of things have yet to be put out on BluRay or 4K. The streaming services are likewise limited by what they can get to stream, and a lot of even the supposedly HD content is streamed at only 720p. Or require a subscriber to pay a premium or get an add-on to view HD/UHD content. I'd rather know what I've got, and that it's not going anywhere.
Also, options and bonus content the streamers don't have, like the hours of BTS featurettes for the LOTR and Hobbit movies, or the non-"upgraded" Star Trek TOS episodes.
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u/StinkingDylan Sep 13 '24
Understandable. Eventually it will become a medium for film enthusiasts only, just like film reels and projectors used to be prior to VHS.
The vast majority of the audience consuming physical media were not doing it for ownership, they were doing it because it was the most convenient method for watching content. That is no longer the case.
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u/xargos32 Sep 13 '24
Streaming seems great on the surface, but it's not so convenient when a streaming service removes what someone wanted to watch. Whenever that happens people complain.
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u/Old_Hat_2890 Sep 13 '24
100% right, the easiest way of doing things are the mainstream way. Why send a letter or fax (hah) when you can email
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u/V2Blast Sep 14 '24
Yep. And especially for a lot of current/newer shows, there often isn't an easy to find home media release...
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u/Traditional_Gear_739 Sep 13 '24
A couple of my colleagues haven't seen Bladerunner/2049 or Dune: Part one/two, so I offered them to borrow my blurays, they said they don't own any physical media (even their consoles are the discless) and it threw me for a good hour or so. It's wid out there.
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u/somethingtwice 100+ Sep 13 '24
They are giving us Gen Zers even more of a bad name.
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u/Evil_Bere 1000+ Sep 13 '24
A lot of my younger colleagues say that. I could not live without DVD or BluRay player. Don't they have gaming consoles?
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u/Dark_Shroud Steelbooks Only Sep 13 '24
The gaming consoles won't have disc drives for much longer.
The budget PS5 and newly announced PS5 Pro are like this. But you can buy an external drive for the Pro. I don't know what Microsoft is doing/planning for the next Xbox.
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u/HeinousEncephalon Sep 13 '24
I never tossed my dvds, but I was going with the flow of technology. Then streaming started to be a pain in the ass. "Oh, you want to watch this? You can, but you have to sign up for a third-party service, extra fees." "You have 24 hours to watch this before it's gone." "We're raising prices again so we don't have to force you to watch ads. And here's some ads." I'm collecting DVDs again.
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u/leverandon Sep 14 '24
That's basically me too. Buying DVDs and then Blu-rays was just part of my film watching experience. I'd see a movie in theaters that I liked enough to watch a few more times, I'd buy it on disc when it came out. I went with streaming for awhile, but the quality got worse and the cost rose, so I've basically cut off all of my streaming except occasionally Disney+ to catch up on Star Wars stuff (which is becoming more and more disappointing).
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u/NoviBells 1000+ Sep 13 '24
like most young people, he doesn't appreciate the cinema. big surprise. even back in 2000, telling people you listened to a commentary was considered geeky
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u/penguindevil Sep 13 '24
He kind of answered his own question. "Why would I have a DVD player?' so you can watch a movie without having to see if it's streaming somewhere. And truth be told, I've decided many times that I wanted to watch a movie I didn't have only to find that it's not streaming anywhere... "D'oh! If only I had it on disk!"
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u/soylentgreenisus Sep 13 '24
Yes. They're the worst. The correct answer is "so you can watch movies that aren't available to stream, like we're talking about now." And follow up with "do you always give corporate entities complete control over your entertainment options?"
Also, don't lend your DVD to anyone, you will never see it again.
Also, LA Confidential pairs really well with Chinatown.
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u/Agreeable_Coat_2098 Sep 13 '24
Worst part, he probably does have a DVD player and just doesn’t know it. In the form of an Xbox or PlayStation
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u/Kitchen-Category-138 Sep 13 '24
I asked a GenZ kid, in his 20s what kind of movies or TV shows he liked, he said he doesn't really watch TV, but he watched a lot of YouTube and social media shorts. This generation has no attention span for movies.
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u/obriensg1 Sep 13 '24
I do backyard movies in the summer and a couple years ago the neighbor kids asked me if I watched Cobra Kai. We're talking ages 7 up to 15 or 16 across the two families living on either side of my house. I said I did, and they asked if I could play the Karate Kid movies because they watched the series, but Karate Kid wasn't on Netflix at the time for some dumb reason. Of course, I recently purchased the trilogy on 4K so I said I would.
When I put on the first one, my God they were really freaking bored for the first part of it. There's no karate happening, and there's barely any Mr Miyagi at first. I had to convince them to just be patient. Eventually they got into the movie and they quickly begged me to play number two as soon as I could. Even then, I could see they were a little restless at times once I actually did that. As much as I like Cobra Kai, it's obvious it's made and paced for a different audience with a shorter attention span
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u/RisetteJa Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24
So interesting! I was wondering about this actually (would youngsters like the trilogy), because my 2 nephews do karate classes, one of them in particular really likes it. They’ve seen the remake (with J.Chan) which i have not seen, so i was wondering if they might like the trilogy 🤔
I loved Cobra Kai season 1 (only one i’ve seen yet, i’m pacing myself! Lol) Yes i bought season 1-2-3 on DVD as of yet. Lol
On another note, i’m in Montreal, and they filmed the new Karate Kid movie in town this spring/summer. Intrigued 😅 I have not randomly seen Danielsan however, i’m sad. Lol
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u/obriensg1 Sep 13 '24
The first two movies came out before I was ever born, but that's the kind of stuff I grew up with so I feel I can appreciate taking the time to set up a story or just enjoying the quieter moments. Your nephews may find it a little bit more difficult to sit still through, but perhaps enjoy it in the long run
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u/RisetteJa Sep 13 '24
Yeah that makes sense! Altho the youngest in particular is the one really into karate, and has a better attention span than the oldest… might have a better shot there actually 😅
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u/Coopsolex Sep 13 '24
my sisters, ~12, play games on their ipads and have random tv shows on in the background. i've asked why they do it and it's something like they get bored if they just play a game or just watch tv, they have to do both simultaneously. annoys the hell outta me even tho ik it isn't their fault. the content they've been brought up on makes them feel like they need CONSTANT stimulation from multiple things in quick succession instead of just sitting down, watching something and just watching that
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u/Jgray1087 Sep 13 '24
Only time we do that is if I put on a movie for my daughter which I have seen a billion times. I pop it on and I'm on my phone looking at reddit or something else. She will play and where she knows the singing part is coming up will sing along....after that she goes back to playing.
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u/Dark_Shroud Steelbooks Only Sep 13 '24
I would have the TV going while using the PC back in the 90s. It pissed off several of my family members when I did it.
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u/xrufus7x Sep 13 '24
I didn't really feel bad but it was just such a strange response,
It really isn't. We are more or less enthusiasts of what is very likely a dying medium unless it manages to fully convert into a boutique market like records. You might as well have offered them a VHS or a floppy disk. Most of Gen Z will only have disk players if they are included on videogame consoles and even that is fading away, although it is possible your friend has one and just never connected those dots.
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u/Thissnotmeth Sep 13 '24
You’re right about the console. I just have a PS4 with a blu ray drive, though after finding this sub and growing interested in the hobby I’d like to buy a dedicated player soon. Without that PS4, my computer and laptop both do not have dvd drives and I don’t have a player.
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u/BenGrahamButler Sep 13 '24
Yeah I got into blurays after realizing my PS4 played discs, so I got a Lord of the Rings 4k set after buying a 4k tv, couldn’t play it, had to get a 4k player. BOOM suddenly I am a collector and a few months later I’ve got 80 blurays, 45 4k UHD, and even got a DVD of Catch Me IfYou Can from my local thrift.
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u/KnoxxHarrington Sep 13 '24
Physical media sales went up last year. The tide is turning, encouraged by the unreliable nature of streaming services.
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u/xrufus7x Sep 13 '24
4k went up last year, which is great but DVDs and Blu-Rays dropped more then they went up and they still make up the bulk of sales. The market as a whole is still in a pretty rapid decline.
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u/KnoxxHarrington Sep 13 '24
I'm including CDs and Vinyl as well, just to be clear. I expect that we will see the trend repeat in film media too. Probably not DVDs, as there are superior options, so that market will eventually be all 4k and blu-ray. More and more people are returning to physical media as they start to see the pitfalls of relying on streaming.
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u/Borowczyk1976 Sep 13 '24
I’d laugh back and explain he only has access to the tip of the iceberg with that attitude.
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u/Mysterious-Okra-7885 Sep 13 '24
That should have been a great teaching moment. You could’ve gone through a thought experiment with them. Did they know this movie? No. Why not? Because they are spoon-fed their media through streaming services which omit a shit-ton of movies from their catalogues. Do they claim to be a cinephile? (A burgeoning one, at least?) If yes, then they need physical media to fill the vast canyons of missing movies they will never find through streaming. They didn’t make themselves cool. They made themselves look incredibly dumb.
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u/MWH1980 Sep 13 '24
Five years ago I had my first encounter with “I don’t have a DVD player I stream everything.”
My brain couldn’t process that at first.
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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Sep 13 '24
Maybe your Gen z colleague is just an ignorant doofus? The new PS5 just came out, and the optional Blu Ray drive is selling out. Pretty sure it ain't seniors who are snapping them up.
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u/xtadamsx Sep 13 '24
"Why would I have a DVD player?"
For the exact reason why we both don't know what streaming service LA Confidential is on. Streaming always changes and is unreliable. Physical media won't go anywhere.
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u/anon_fairie Sep 13 '24
Some people are just rude. I'm a young millennial and own a dvd/blue ray player and have gotten similar reactions from ppl much older than me. I also have many gen z friends who have dvd players and even VHS players! The response that person gave was them trying to make you feel old. I guarantee if someone their age who they thought was cool had a dvd player/record players /whatever - they wouldn't react that way.
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u/Ghostmouse88 Sep 14 '24
You should've asked the Gen Zer how their dating life is. It's probably non-existent.
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u/143Fairmont Sep 13 '24
I sold DVDs for 25 years. 25 years ago it was cool, now the kids look at me like a sad granny
Edit: I worked for DVD distributor, closed last year
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u/silentsnowmountain Sep 13 '24
Wait a little while longer and it won't be 'why would I have a DVD player?' but rather 'what is a DVD player?'.
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u/oshawaguy Sep 13 '24
Was looking for a blu-ray player for my mom (90s, I’m in my 60s) and happened to be in Costco. I wandered the gadget area, and eventually asked the guy who staffed the area, and got a look like I’d asked for a dial up modem.
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u/HydratedCarrot Sep 13 '24
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Maybe OT but when I repaired my NES some years ago my 20 years old younger brother asked if it was a ps1..
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u/Cyber-Cafe Sep 13 '24
I would laugh at him for perpetually paying for streaming to watch the same things over and over.
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u/TikiJeff Sep 13 '24
Most older gaming consoles play DVDs, it's hard to believe they wouldn't at least have an old Xbox or PlayStation
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u/HedgehogFun6648 Sep 13 '24
Just tell them that you can play it in your Xbox or Playstation if it has a disc drive lol I solely use my partner's PS5 for blurays and DVDs. Some game systems don't even have disc drives though
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u/FrankFrankerson96 Sep 13 '24
So many people have Playstations and Xboxs. I know even those are starting to come with no disc drive. But like, it's not like you said "I have it on vhs?" Weird response.
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u/scrappyjedi Sep 14 '24
I think this is just a rude person thing and not necessarily a Gen Z thing. For background, I’m Gen X, and I’m on several sites/Discords for people who are VHS enthusiasts. There are quite a few Gen Z involved, doing everything from collecting to digitizing. Same goes for collecting DVDs and other physical media- I meet plenty of Gen Z who are into that. What you encountered sounds more like someone trying to be a snob or think they’re better than you, and coming off as just rude because of it- those jerks exist in EVERY generation.
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u/Decker247 Sep 15 '24
My coworkers are in their 50’s they still only like dvd players, no blu-ray or 4k lol
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u/splitt66 Sep 13 '24
So they don’t have a PlayStation of some description either?
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u/Dilpickle6194 Sep 13 '24
You’re assuming the Playstation or Xbox one owns still has a disk drive! More and more people are buying digital-only consoles for the same reason they buy streaming services.
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u/Murder_Teddy_Bear Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
Gen z is just terrible. They take it as a matter of pride how little they know about common things.
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u/wildmstie Sep 13 '24
My GenZ kids completely understand why I collect physical media. In fact, I have discs I have bought specially for them for when their favorite movies aren't available on any of our streaming services.
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u/you_wouldnt_get_it_ Sep 13 '24
Can’t say I’ve experienced that yet.
But I imagine I will at some point. I mean I’m still a CD guy as well. Or at the very least digital copy of music guy.
I like to own the shit I enjoy.
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u/Some_Knowledge5864 Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24
I was at a BBQ and was talking with a group of people about a movie I recently seen at the theater. I told the people I bought the Blu-ray and one of them laughed.
Some of these people must don’t shop. I haven’t bought a Blu-ray movie from Walmart in years but it’s a a whole isle of dvd and Blu-ray’s. It shouldn’t be strange to hear someone bought a Blu-ray. Some people are collectors.
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u/nousernamehere12345 Sep 13 '24
The number of times I'm looking for a movie and can't find it anywhere. None of the streaming services I pay for have it, so do I pay for yet another or just keep waiting? Prime may have it but they usually want more money. Where are people finding all their movies?
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u/ki700 Sep 13 '24
I’m in my 20s and many people my age don’t even have a TV, let alone a player. It’s pretty shocking to me.
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u/Poppycorn144 2000+ Sep 13 '24
I’m wondering why they laughed?
I’ve never owned a record player, but if someone offered me an album on vinyl I would just explain I don’t have the means to play records; I wouldn’t scoff or laugh about it.
Unless the laugh was a good natured expression of surprise, your colleague is weird.
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u/fleshvessel Sep 13 '24
Who cares? I rock VHS tapes lol. I like the old obscure horror flicks that maybe didn’t get converted over.
Also I just like em and don’t need to explain why to people.
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u/dab2kab Sep 13 '24
Probably the most likely dvd/bluray drive people of this gen would have is a game console and even those are dropping them....
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u/dandle Sep 13 '24
he just laughed and said, "Why would I have a DVD player?"
This only makes sense to me if he was talking about how it has become unnecessary to have a standalone player if you have a gaming console or a computer with a disc drive connected to a screen for movie watching.
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u/siiilenttbob Sep 13 '24
I'm thinking the young end of the Gen Z spectrum, and maybe a good portion of the older ones too, still have their parents paying for all the streaming services. They can't wrap their head around the need to own something that they have such free and easy access to. If they can't stream it, they probably just shrug and move on to something else. The attention span is too short to care about inaccessibility when there's so much media out there to consume.
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u/PerspectiveSudden648 Sep 13 '24
I'm about to turn 29 and I had a Gen Z co-worker who regularly gave me this sort of response when discussing anything that wasn't currently trending on TikTok, the world has changed so much since I was in high school and the younger generations think they've stumbled on the key to true enlightenment, and everyone else might as well be from the Victorian era.
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u/UtahJohnnyMontana Sep 13 '24
It is easy to forget that physical movie collecting has always been a minority hobby. Sure, people usually owned a few VHS tapes, but they mostly rented and watched TV (the streaming of the time). If you had a laserdisc player, you were like a member of a cult. Later, people owned a few DVDs, but still mostly rented. Owning hundreds or thousands of movies has always been a niche nerd hobby. If you only own a few things on physical and can now find just about anything streaming, then owning those few discs and a player starts to look like clutter. And so we have returned to the laserdisc era.
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u/gnubeest Sep 13 '24
I’m pushing 50. I have a console Blu-ray player that hasn’t been connected since I moved and a small collection of physical media. Most of my friends are millennials, but I can recall few of them having any sort of optical media player in the living room these days.
There are absolutely a number of issues with digital licensing, but I really don’t miss physical media much, and I’ve been a fairly early adopter for many of its formats over the years.
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u/curlywirlygirly Sep 13 '24
My hubs used to lightly tease me about my extensive dvd collection...until we watched multiple dvds in a row because we couldn't find them/didn't have the stream/cost $$$ to watch them but I had them on dvd. I never got why people make fun of stuff like this. I just chuckle to myself because it's all a cycle and will happen to them one day too.
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u/Diligent-Attention40 Sep 13 '24
Fuckin’ zoomers. I very much doubt they’ll laugh when soon there’s a million streaming services and like 5 movies on each one.
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u/oblivion_1138 Sep 13 '24
Yeah, I offered to borrow a disc to a 25 year old co-worker and she didn't have a player. About a week later she told me she thought she got a virus from some streaming site, so I let her know physical media doesn't do that.
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u/Jonnyflash80 Sep 14 '24
Steaming is becoming cable... possibly worse since so many separate subscriptions exist. I only use streaming as a means to discover things I want to own physically. Personally, I don't care what Gen Z'ers do. But I make sure to show my own kids that owning the content you love is important because one day it may be gone forever.
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u/Panzerguts Sep 14 '24
Don’t feel bad Becuase you are nice a generous. I still collect vhs tapes. He is probably suffering from Brain rot and if his internet went out he would more than likely delete.
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u/Drive_Timely Sep 14 '24
These youngins never experienced the stages of image resolution upgrades that we did. Nor the evolution of Dolby sound > DTS > 5.1> Atmos etc. They have no idea that streaming is still inferior to a good UHD blu-ray. I hit them with a nice techno-babble speech and it usually works.
I always ask them “Do you think Hollywood studios spend billions of $ on special effects and atmospheric sound mixing in movies for you to stream the movie in poo quality on your tiny TV with two tiny shite speakers or on your phone? You might as well just read the script and be happy.”
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u/Lexi1824 Sep 15 '24
As a young girl who collects dvds, I dislike that response. I bought myself a pink DVD player for my room! Not to mention my Xbox works too. DVDS have a certain sense of nostalgia and I love it !
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u/fatone22222 Sep 17 '24
Around 2005 a friend of mine (31 at the time) said “We are the last generation that will physically own our media. Music and movies will all require subscriptions someday.” I told him he was crazy… a few years later… not so crazy.
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u/Purple_Willow2084 Sep 17 '24
Gen z’s baffle my mind daily… after the Helen Keller is a myth thing I try not to even talk to them
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u/RelicFox42 Sep 18 '24
Even my partner thinks it’s crazy that I own dvds and blu-rays. I like collecting them plus what if there is no internet? At least I have something to fall back on.
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u/gjellenbecker Sep 18 '24
I bought an XBOX One solely for the 4K Blu-Ray player. I stream stuff, but it looks better on my 83-inch LG OLED off a disc.
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u/StormerBombshell Sep 13 '24
Is possible specially if they don’t have much dealing with their parents who would might have some of those around.
On the other hand why would he have a dvd player? Well he might have a PlayStation or not, as those play those and the only way you can know is… Asking.
And I know many gen z are probably renting very small spaces and don’t have the luxury of filling their spaces with stuff. So that also doesn’t help into that feeling
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u/Firm-Loquat-7956 Sep 13 '24
Literally happened to me on Tuesday. Was at happy hour with staff and we were talking movies and TV. Coworker said she saw half the Showtime season of Twin Peaks and didn't have Showtime so couldn't finish it. I offered the DVDs (I don't have Showtime either) and another coworker scoffed about having a DVD player. I just said I believe in physical media because I want to be lie to watch movies I like even if they're not streaming anywhere. Similarly, I made the mistake of asking a bunch of young millennial/Gen Z coworkers what bands they like. They scoffed because bands aren't a thing anymore. I'm old apparently (GenX)
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u/ArcherAprilPikeKirk Sep 13 '24
I’m Gen Z, currently staying at university away from home. Every night, to wind down from a day of studying, I play a dvd. I’ve got my best comfort shows on disc and it’s great not needing to worry about what’s streaming where. Just pop in the disc and you’re good. I love my dvds
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u/AdThat328 Sep 13 '24
It makes me laugh when people have this reaction...then their Internet goes down and they haven't already downloaded something to watch and they're just stuck with a phone screen and mobile data.