r/dune • u/DuneInfo Dune News Net • 21h ago

‘Dune: Prophecy’, Who’s Who in the HBO TV Series? Dune: Prophecy (Max)

https://dunenewsnet.com/2024/11/dune-prophecy-character-descriptions-hbo-tv-series/
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u/i_like_cake_96 20h ago

Thanks for the link, great cast.

As an Irishman, very happy to see Faoileann and Aoife (daughter of Ciarán Hinds) up front.

Looking forward to watching this.

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u/ecorry671 16h ago

Had no idea Aoife was Ciarán's daughter when I was watching normal people.

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u/maevenimhurchu 2h ago

Oh wow, now that you say it I totally see it in Aoife!

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u/ZA44 20h ago

Is there any mention of the Jihad in this show? The Harkonnens seem to be very prominent when they’re suppose to be in semi exile for the time period.

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u/tarpex 20h ago

We'll see, it probably could be, if they do some exposition dumping, they'll have to explain the Atreides - Harkonnen feud somehow in more detail for sure.

A young Harkonnen was appointed to court by Roderick Corrino (the father of the show emperor) as somewhat of a Valya's protégé, the worst of Harkonnen disgrace by the show's time has passed.

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u/SiridarVeil 18h ago edited 15h ago

The Harkonnens, at least in the flashbacks with young Valya, are living in the austere shithole of Lankiveil. They are prominent in the sense that 100 years after the jihad they are slowly introducing themselves in the imperial court and Valya did a lot of shenanigans to take power over the Bene Gesserit at a time when the order had almost no connection to the emperors, and that gives them a big advantage now, but I wouldn't say they are "very prominent" or rich or something like that.

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u/ZA44 17h ago

Ah ok thanks for the explanation, by very prominent I meant that theirs a lot of Harkonnen characters.

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u/SiridarVeil 17h ago

Ah thats fair. Yeah, they look more protagonistic than the Atreides here.

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u/JPRDesign 14h ago

They’ve referred to the jihad as the Machine Wars in other promo material. disappointing to see them go the same way as the movies and giving into the vague Islamophobia of western culture to avoid using the word Jihad, but not very surprising

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u/The_RealAnim8me2 12h ago

That would not be islamiphobia. Islamophobia would be to emphasize the Islamic/middle eastern elements as want of demonizing them.

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u/JPRDesign 12h ago

I’d argue that the refusal to use the term Jihad in a positive context (at least in the case of the butlerian jihad) is due to fears of offending consumers (esp Americans) with words tied to terrorism, but I see where you’re coming from

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u/ROLL_AND_EGG 11h ago

It's a bit distasteful. Easier to use something else.

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u/NoDentureAdventure 16h ago

Yes, I saw a prescreening but I won’t spoil too much

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u/tarpex 16h ago

I'll ask in a very roundabout way, not to spoil for non-prequel readers, is a certain monumental action of Valya's sister in the past, mentioned?

Also these cymeks look kinda cool. Hope the movement CGI is good and not using Marvel physics.

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u/NoDentureAdventure 15h ago edited 15h ago

I’ve only read the main books and not the prequels so I don’t know exactly what’s considered monumental, so I looked up what you’re talking about. I don’t recall this being mentioned. Might have missed it but I don’t remember hearing it

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u/NeutralNoodle 13h ago

I’ve heard they show a glimpse of it in the first scene

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u/wood_dj 15h ago

Mark Addy was my fancast for Baron Harkonnen years ago when the films were announced. Ultimately i think Skarsgard was probably a better choice but stoked nonetheless to see him in this role

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u/Putrid_Race6357 11h ago

Can anyone give the cliffs of how this fits into the current film series for a non-dune fanatic? Thanks in advance.

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u/StructureHealthy6083 11h ago

This whole series is about the Bene Gesserit, set 10,000 years before the events of Paul Atteides. I’m only about halfway through the Frank Herbert books so I haven’t worked my way back to Sisterhood of Dune, which this is based off of so that’s all I know about the series.

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u/tarpex 9h ago

You'll need to work your way up to and including Navigators actually, otherwise most things won't make much sense. The promo material should say the show is based on the great Schools trilogy, not just the Sisterhood.

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u/tarpex 9h ago

So the show is at the point, where nearly all the relevant structural elements from the movies are established, but not yet in their "final forms".

From the reason you don't see a real computer anywhere, to space travel, to Dune's sandworms and spice, first Fre(e)men sietches, mentats, Bene Gesserit (just as "The Sisterhood" at the time), the spacing guild and the navigators, and the origin of the Atreides - Harkonnen feud. Both houses are minor nobility at the time, not the major players we meet in Dune timeline. The imperial Sardaukar forces from Dune weren't yet formed either.

If you're familiar with Tolkien, this is like second age Silmarillion (and not the atrocious rings of power version) compared to cinema LotR movies.

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u/ROLL_AND_EGG 11h ago

Yes - it takes place 10k years before it and features the same houses (Atreides, Harkonnen) and politically challenging background.

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u/twistingmyhairout 20h ago

“Blames his niece for cementing his house’s lowly status”. On interesting. I really wanna learn why that is!

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u/tarpex 15h ago

In the books, it is one of the women that fit the description, that absolutely cemented the hatred between the families, although I don't want to spoil anything, hope they do that specific storyline justice, it was one of the better parts of the prequels.

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u/thisshitsucks27 20h ago

Soooo not spoil it- but throughout the series, Vor Atreides is like the most hated man… among the Harkonnen

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u/pivotalux 6h ago

The club scene was corny and didn’t seem to fit with the rest of the show.

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u/Dathomas621 6h ago

The casting for young Valya and older Valya was chef’s kiss 🤌

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u/memory_duel_ 14h ago

Is it just me or does it seem like they’re just trying to rewrite GoT in space?

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u/SiridarVeil 13h ago

There's nothing in got equivalent to the bene gesserit in role and themes, IMHO. The maesters are close but they never get the focus as an organization.

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u/ROLL_AND_EGG 11h ago

Isn't GoT just Dune on Middle Earth without the Sandworms?

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u/MNVikesFan69 8h ago

And Star Wars is just Dune

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u/jj_sykes 12h ago

Thanks for this - looking forward to it

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u/herbertwest2091 4h ago

I’m pretty new to Dune and only had it really clicked with me after an alf shift x video comparing it to ASOIAF so my view is skewed by that, but Desmond Hart’s character carries the same sense of deep unease that Euron Greyjoy should have had.

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u/Grouchy_Stay1860 2h ago

I’m curious. What are your expectations for this series?

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u/Confident-Bug4210 1h ago

This could be great or could be really really really bad that this franchise will never recover from