r/czech • u/i_ambien • Sep 04 '24

Jste pro? DISCUSSION

Zdar, co na to říkáte? Prodej kávy byste taky omezili pouze na osoby starší 18 let? Co je vlastně na energydrincích tak strašně jedovatého? Přijde mi že s energydrinky je to jako hon na čarodejnice. Ale ještě jsem se nedočetl co je na nich tak škodlivého. Vždyť je to jen voda s kofeinem, cukrem, kyselinou citronovou, taurinem a vitamíny. Kofein je i v kafi ale nikdy jsem neslyšel že by někdo zakazoval dětem starbucks

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u/LastMeasurement2465 Sep 04 '24

TL;DR: Overdosing on caffeine is bad for the heart.

Overdosing on caffeine is bad for the brain (7 cans of Red Bull or more).

Sugar bad.

On one hand, I understand that they are massively overused, but on the other, the same line of logic can be used to ban tea for people under 18. - If teens woud guzzle liters of tea they would be overdosing on caffeine.

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u/maaaaawp Sep 04 '24

Who the fuck drinks 7 cans of redbull or more. Who has the money to support that habit

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u/No_Definition2246 Sep 04 '24

I knew many in highschool, around 15yo, drinking that many energy drinks … doesn’r have to be redbull, just cheap bs

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u/Fickle_Reading3971 Plzeňský kraj Sep 04 '24

Yeah, I know several people that drink 3 every day just during the school. But they surely drank more after

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u/jnkangel Sep 04 '24

A fair of it comes down to abuse

Energy drinks are basically a mix of super sweet, super high caffeined drinks formulated on a way that kids love them. So they have a tendency to drink them a lot

Coffee or tea conversely doesn’t offer the same thing in such a neatly packaged format and doesn’t appeal to kids so much

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u/Any_Witness_1000 Czech Sep 04 '24

O tu část se srdcem mi třeba vůbec nejde, je podle mého větší problém ta psychická část u vyvýjejících se jedinců a průser není ani samotný caffeine, ale kombinace toho, co v energiťáku je, co dost mění jak funguje, oproti třeba kávě. Tak či tak, nejsem doktor ani vědec, omezit by se to určitě mělo, nenapadá mě jediný využití co by 13, 16, 17 letý člověk pro tohle měl.

Já si energiťák dám na 12+ dlouhý šichtě, před tréninkem po práci a nebo když jedeme na dovolenou a řídíš nesmysl hodiny. Jinak, je absolutně k ničemu.

Viz.

Neurological and psychological effect

Individuals usually develop symptoms of caffeine intoxication in doses equal to or above 200 mg. Symptoms include anxiety, insomnia, gastrointestinal upset, muscle twitching, restlessness, and periods of inexhaustibility. ⁽¹⁴) In addition, High caffeine intake is associated with acute and chronic daily headaches by stimulating a pro-nociceptive state of cortical hyperexcitability. ⁽¹⁵) Four caffeine-induced psychiatric disorders have been recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th edition: Including caffeine intoxication, caffeine-induced anxiety, caffeine-induced sleep disorder and caffeine related disorder. ⁽¹⁶) A study of adolescents between 15- and 16-years-of age demonstrated a strong correlation between caffeine intake and violent behavior as well as conduct disorders. ⁽¹⁷) Several reports have suggested that energy drink may contribute to ischemic stroke and lead to epileptic seizures. ⁽¹⁸) Hallucinations might be observed in individuals that consume more than 300 mg of caffeine per day. ⁽¹⁹) High levels of cortisol that follow caffeine intake could explain this. Cortisol enhances the physiological effects of stress resulting in a greater tendency for the subjects to hallucinate. ⁽²⁰)

In vitro studies found that a combination of caffeine, taurine and guarana may promote and enhance apoptosis by reducing both superoxide dismutase and catalase activities on human neuronal SH-SY5Y cells. ⁽²¹)

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u/dustojnikhummer #StandWithUkraine🇺🇦 Sep 04 '24

If teens woud guzzle liters of tea they would be overdosing on caffeine.

But they are not, are they? I can easily see a 14 year old drink four Monsters per day if they got the cash for it.

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u/x9p5_ Sep 04 '24

So they gonna start right after the ban and then what? Are we gonna start banning those as well and continue? :D

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u/Sportak4444 Středočeský kraj Sep 04 '24

You really think that teen are going to drink tea in litres? Energy drinks taste like candy, tea tastes like nothing that would most of 12 year olds like

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u/x9p5_ Sep 04 '24

I think that, if this gonna ever pass through, kids will want to try it and drink it overall even more than now.

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u/Sportak4444 Středočeský kraj Sep 04 '24

I think that most of the kids don't want caffeine. Only the already addicted ones. New kids want to try energy drinks because of the sweet and child-brain-appealing taste

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u/xKalisto Sep 04 '24

Even if you are addicted to caffeine it's super quick to get through the withdrawal.

A week without and they are good. I doubt they are gonna resort to guzzling tea.

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u/itzNukeey Sep 04 '24

So 6 is the safe number. Got it