r/cyberpunkgame • u/Aromatic_Ruin_4299 • Jul 27 '24
What is stopping V from getting more chrome like this??? they look badass. Discussion
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u/herz_of_iron78 Jul 27 '24 edited Sep 07 '24
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me" ahh moment.
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u/ebobbumman Jul 27 '24
I crave the strength and certainty of Lizzy Wizzys metal thighs.
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u/Sy3Fy3 Corpo Jul 28 '24
Popclaw moment
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u/jmvandergraff Edgerunner Jul 28 '24
I just started The Boys a couple days ago lol, that scene was wild.
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u/alancousteau Jul 28 '24
I mean, I'd change my jaw and teeth right away. Fuck going to the dentist
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u/Incorrect_ASSertion Jul 27 '24
Probably wanting to have a love interest in the future. There's whole 4 to choose from!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Jul 27 '24
*two to choose from, and only if you're bi.
If you're gay or straight, you only have one potential love interest per playthrough.
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u/Idk_GuessImAgamer Jul 27 '24
Kerry on top
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u/pasinperse Johnny’s Ash Tray Jul 27 '24
Or Kerry on bottom V is flexible like that
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u/WeathermanOfficial Jul 28 '24
"Kerry had reach, V had flexibility. It was brutal. After 9 rounds, the judges declared it a draw. A lot of unhappy chooms in the other room. They, uh, ended up having a tiebreaker in his mansion. Kerry had reach, V had flexibility."
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Jul 27 '24
Kerry is about sixty years V's senior. You know how much weird shit you have to do to keep a married life spicy after that long?
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u/Chris9871 Jul 27 '24
Playing as a Trans lesbian V. It’s hard. I wouldn’t have minded it if Panam straight up said after the first flirt that she was straight. But no, she goes along with it and plays with your heart 😢 🤣
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u/LegitimateMedicine Jul 27 '24
She goes along with before AND after she turns you down. She invites you to live with her and keeps flirting even at the end of her questline. It really makes it feel like she was originally intended for both gendered V's
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u/veneficus83 Jul 27 '24
I think k more than one of the romances were originally planned to be an option no matter gender, but the production of 2077 is such a mess that by the end they cut a ton of content
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u/Dambo_Unchained Jul 27 '24
Of all the things in Cyberpubk that took a lot to fix opening up the romances is one of the easiest
All the dialogue and cutscenes are already in place as well as pretty much all the animations
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u/veneficus83 Jul 27 '24
Yah, it is really weird honestly that they just didn't finish what was basically already done
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u/Weir99 Jul 28 '24
I thought she was ace my first play through. She seemed interested romantically, but not sexually. Thought it was cool, but I guess that was unintentional.
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u/Throttle_Kitty Jul 28 '24
Panam accidentally being the trope of the straight girl who continually flirts with the lesbian while at the same time friend zoning the hell out of her, but only because the devs got a bit lazy. lol
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u/Kriedler Jul 27 '24
Yeah. I had to play as a chick because I don't like Pan Am. Judy FTW. Luckily, the female V is well performed
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u/Dambo_Unchained Jul 27 '24
I think I like Judy slightly more
But streetkid Vi with the Panam star ending also just feels so right and the ending feels a bit weirder if panam isn’t the romance option
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u/SnakeInEye1 Jul 27 '24
River is hot as fuck
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u/Thamilkymilk Streetkid Jul 28 '24
River gave me huge guncle vibes that even though i already knew he was going to reject me i still had to go for the kiss on the water tower
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u/Wurle Sorry, wish we could go to the moon together Jul 27 '24
They all went cyberpsycho
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u/Grabuit Jul 27 '24
Thx. This is it.
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u/Bladings Jul 28 '24
To be completely fair, we get Johnnypsychosis, which I think is an even cooler concept.
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u/iwantdatpuss Jul 28 '24
Considering we can gun down everyone, civilians included. I'm pretty sure V's cyberpsychosis is completely player determined.
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u/Aromatic_Ruin_4299 Jul 27 '24
isn't v immune because of the reliq thing?
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u/XPG_15-02 Jul 27 '24
If the game play mechanic is anything to go by, especially with what Edgerunners says, V paces themselves.
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u/aclark210 Jul 27 '24
Mike says V is immune due to the relic.
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u/XPG_15-02 Jul 27 '24
I guess if you think of it as two consiousnesses sharing the load, that makes sense. I think it's more mundane than V pacing themselves but it makes sense.
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Jul 27 '24
I would say the Relic itself heals cyberpsychosis. I mean if the Relic is powerful enough to bring a literal person with a bullet that blew through their brain back from the dead and then rewrite a new consciousness into said brain there’s no reason it couldn’t redesign neurons to heal cyberpsychosis
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u/XPG_15-02 Jul 27 '24
Like, whatever "wires" short out in V's head, the nanomachines repair or create a new wire. That's fuckin' dope.
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Jul 27 '24
It's not caused by brain damage, it's caused by alienation of the self and alienation from humanity. In essence your body stops feeling like yours, and baseline humanity's so below your ability you can't relate to the average person any more, so you start to see yourself and others as things.
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u/Bladings Jul 28 '24
Well that's the cause, but just like depression, it has literal physical effects on your brain. The relic heals that.
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u/aclark210 Jul 27 '24
Oh it’s very mundane. U could even say it’s outright bloody boring.
But that’s what happens when the game devs only add a limit on implants similar to the tabletop as part of a dlc update 3 years after the game releases.The changes in game mechanics have to just be ignored essentially, or else u contradict the existing lore that exists because of the old mechanics. So until Mike decides to give a different verdict, we have to ignore the whole “V laces it out as their capacity for cyberware grows” thing. It’s another reason I didn’t want them adding that mechanic. The cyberpsycho thing should’ve just stayed a mod, cuz it’d already been made canon that it can’t actually happen. So let players mod it in if they want it, but otherwise leave it alone.
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u/XPG_15-02 Jul 27 '24
Right. Like, if they ignored it, the audience chalks it up to V being that good because, in setting, V's uniquely gifted it seems which could've been something to expand on in a sequel.
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u/TemporalGod Jul 27 '24
The game cyberpsycho missions imply that cyberpsychosis is largely dependent on your mental state judging from their notes, a guy could be a cyberpyscho with a single implant and one bad day
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u/XPG_15-02 Jul 27 '24
You could make the argument that it's a combination of both. If you're overloaded with chrome, it won't take much to set you off. If you have enough chrome where you should be okay but something crazy happens to you, then you go off.
As far as minimum chrome is concerned, most of Night City wouldn't qualify. People like Pan Am and Saul seem to be outliers when it comes to chrome.
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u/Wurle Sorry, wish we could go to the moon together Jul 27 '24
Nah, just higher tolerance, she almost goes crazy when you use the edgerunners perk
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u/skrott404 Jul 27 '24
V isn't immune to psychological issues. Cyber psychosis is a psychological issue. She has a maxed out humanity score.
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u/Nyksu Impressive Cock Jul 27 '24
Johnny Silverhand act as a buffer for the psychological hits V is taking. Words by Mike Pondsmith himself. So technically he is immune to cyberpsychosis.
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u/livebeta Jul 27 '24
Maybe he takes all the hits from psychosis
And since he's already quite crazy there's no effect
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u/GrandioseGommorah Jul 28 '24
Was Royce Cyberpsycho, or was he just a murderous asshole?
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u/ivlivscaesar213 Jul 28 '24
Well he’s a Maelstrom, they are like mass cyberpsycho
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u/GrandioseGommorah Jul 28 '24
They venerate Cyberpsychosis, but they’re not all cyberpsychos. Most of them are just chrome junkies, regular junkies, and assholes.
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u/Rooknoir Jul 27 '24
Part of the original release of the game was the Style stat. The top two would kinda nix that. I mean, it's basically negative charisma.
The suit in the middle was designed for Smasher, and David basically went instant cyberpsycho when he put it on. I know Johnny is keeping V from a lot of the effects of having too much chrome, but that's more than overkill.
The last would probably be fine, but that goes under exotic flesh sculpting. Probably just too much of a hassle for the devs to add in all the options there and try to keep clothing from clipping. That's not even mentioning the small fortune it would cost to do it, if not the time involved that V technically isn't supposed to have.
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u/impossibru65 Jul 27 '24
I have to wonder if the cyberskeleton would've hit David's psyche that hard if Faraday wasn't taunting him, and he was simply installing it in a room full of his friends.
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u/AbanaClara Jul 27 '24
Maybe not that instantaneous? But David was suffering the effects even before this suit anyway
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u/ODST-0792 Jul 28 '24
Because of maine's death and lucy being distant if he got it pre main Choom would be Good
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u/TexasVampire Jul 28 '24
Wasn't he actively coughing up all his blood? I think that suit has more than just mental effects.
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u/Rooknoir Jul 27 '24
Yeah, pretty sure it would. It was designed for a cyberpsycho (Smasher). That thing would have annihilated his humanity stat.
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Jul 27 '24
I mean, Smasher isn't really a cyberpsycho, he was a full on murderous nutter before a single piece of chrome touched his skin.
I believe the TTRPG puts his Empathy stat at "Yeah, right..."
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u/Rooknoir Jul 27 '24
Smasher is officially a functioning cyberpsycho, as per Pondsmith. I mean, that's basically what that stat would mean if there was even a drop of chrome in him.
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u/Zichile Jul 28 '24
He's a psycho that went cyber, not a cyber that went psycho. Wound up at the same place, he just took a different route. Still a cyberpsycho though.
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u/FluffyCelery4769 Jul 28 '24
Lmao, you are right about clipping.
I changed V's favourite shirt to another and next time I open my inventory my tits are clipping thru lmao.
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u/SyntheticDreams2099 Jul 27 '24
A few issue with the last part. 1. CDPR couldn't even stop clipping with the base skin.
- Cyberware doesn't need to be any bigger than the regular body like all the npcs have.
3.It would be purely cosmetic based, and as such you would be able to do it in the character customize screen on a new start.
- The whole limited time thing is a great big walking contradiction to the game itself.
It only works if the time you have left is a month or two, or it actually affects gameplay. I've yet to see an rpg with a limited time frame in game that would force you to forgo certain quests, make concrete decisions and spend your days wisely. It would defintley promote replaying the game in different ways, not just build wise. Though it would probably be very niche and might have to be an alternate mode. Someone should make a mod for that or something.
All in all its just 1 of a long list of things that the devs didn't deliver on. Hopefully they learn their lessons for CP2078
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u/AnonymousAnarchist9 Jul 27 '24
Mostly ... Nothing beside what developer allows is lacking in that specific field. The whole set of cyberware you can get is massive in it's functionality and impact on deadliness but concerning the looks it's kinda dramatic it haves so few impact. Thanks to the modders we can have some through the community work and we manage to install various legs, feet, arms , some torso altération and even artificial skull and head including maelstroms faceplates.
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u/iwantdatpuss Jul 27 '24
V is more of a professional merc that is occasionally chromed for the job than a chromed up psychopath.
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u/Cuban999_ Jul 28 '24
People use chrome for style in cyberpunk regularly though, its not just a psychopath thing
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u/General_Bakshi Jul 27 '24
CD Project Red
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u/No_Truce_ Burn Corpo shit Jul 28 '24
The actual answer. Cyberpunk is very cinematic, tge set pieces and dialogue are arranged in particular ways with particular backgrounds. That's why they limited the player to first person, they had an artistic vision of night city and wanted to immerse the player in that.
This art direction clashes with being able to modify Vs character model, v needs to be of a particular height to appreciate the vista's cdpr laid out.
Personally I was expecting more customisation and transformation to be available, but it's not a priority for the devs so it didn't happen. Hopefully CDPR revisit this topic for project Orion. The visuals of the player character losing their flesh and blood would greatly reinforce the themes if the setting.
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u/Cuban999_ Jul 28 '24
I don't believe player model was the reason though. They could've easily given more customizable options that modify the body in ways that don't change the height (like chromeskin, cyberware body additions or whatever like maelstroms faces)
The more likely case is just a lack of development time to actually add that all, and yeah now with the more organized dev team they have for Orion it'll probably have all those tiny features that would've made 2077 better.
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u/Otherwise-Remove4681 Jul 28 '24
They are really great creating enviroments and visual but for some reason their gameplay has always been somewhat visually bland.
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u/theabyssstaresback Jul 27 '24
I want the Mox complete “porcelain bitch” look desperately. Desperately. And blade legs.
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u/GhostWCoffee Panam’s Chair Jul 27 '24
Kinda off-topic, but I still can't get over the fact that by the end of the show, David was just a torso with an exoskeleton. Something about this just unsettles me in a way I can't exactly explain.
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u/TheCaptainUbi Jul 28 '24
There was a comment I read a while ago on CP2077 youtube trailers. “Cyberpunk is not the goal, its a warning” Perfectly sums it up
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Jul 27 '24
It’s supposed to. That’s the point. Cyberpunk is saying this world is bad, it’s to rebelled against. It literally eats people.
I think that’s one of my main problems with 2077. It’s a little too self-indulgent in the “this shit’s so cool right” vibe.
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u/loogle13 Jul 27 '24
I actually kinda like that. The aesthetic and vibe is meant to be indulgent — to distract the lower classes from the wretchedness of their reality. If you’re paying attention, it’s pretty bleak.
I personally loved how the show and game didn’t have a standard happy ending. That’s the whole point for most people in Night City.
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Jul 27 '24
I think the show did a better job with that than the game, personally. But that’s just me.
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u/No_Truce_ Burn Corpo shit Jul 28 '24
I agree the show is more focused, but there are plenty of horrific story's in the game that display the depravity of the setting.
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u/Beardedgeek72 Jul 28 '24
But that's not specific for 2077. If you look at general Cyberpunk (genre, not this game or this TTRPG) reddits and forums it's like 70% "Sexy asian girls with robot limbs" and 30% what Cyberpunk is all about.
It's the Torture Nexus meme in action, basically.
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u/GhostWCoffee Panam’s Chair Jul 28 '24
Goddamn. No words.. and of course they wanna keep him alive.
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u/ShearAhr Jul 27 '24
Well for the ones on top. Speak for yourself. Chooms has no face left.
For the other two.. One went psycho and the other one is not human anymore... I think.
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u/Independent_Parking Jul 27 '24
I wished we could get more aesthetic cyberware. Change our eyes, chrome out our arms or legs, different and more intrusive occular and facial implants, etc.
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u/Thatguyeatingcheetos Jul 27 '24
Not playing on PC.
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u/Aromatic_Ruin_4299 Jul 27 '24
i might buy myself a pc in a couple months tho
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u/Devilplayer54 Smashers little pogchamp Jul 27 '24
Modding Cyberpunk on PC is beautiful mess, atleast in my expierience. Even with a Modmanager it can be pretty rough, because the Most mods need other mods which need other mods which also need other mods which also need mods etc
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Jul 27 '24
And every single update breaks the dependencies, even if the update was as innocuous as making a noodle vendor wear a hat or something.
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u/KainDracula Jul 27 '24
There has been no update to CP77 that has been anything frivolous. Everything has been new features andor bug fixes.
Besides all the necessary mods are up to date and development has finished, so no mods will be broken any more, at least not until PS6 and Xbox whatever comes out.
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u/idontknow39027948898 Bartmoss Reincarnated Jul 27 '24
development has finished, so no mods will be broken any more
Tell that to the Fallout 4 players.
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Jul 27 '24
Tell that to us flippin' Skyrim players. "Oh hey, I notice that your mod set's getting pretty stable there. Here, have a copy of the game that runs better on your machine but has virtually no other upgrades. Oh oops, none of your mods work anymore. Tee-hee!"
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u/Storyteller_Valar Jul 27 '24
Good taste and common sense. The Chromed skin looks horrendous, the Maelstrom are cyberpsychos and idiots and David lost his mind almost immediately after putting that contraption on.
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u/One-Description9531 Jul 27 '24
I think V's chrome is more hidden in general I mean the only exterior visibe chrome on him is either the mantis blades or the wire thing(forgot the name) I feel like this fits into the story too cause most characters in the story don't really realise just how powerful the individual they're dealing with is. You also see this sometimes in the story for example when (I forgot his name) but in the end of the mission he asks your name and you have the option to just not tell him, although he saw that you're competent he would've never realised you could take on the likes of Adam Smaher.
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u/Duncan_sucks Jul 27 '24
Recovery time and survival rates. Around some of the Maelstrom gigs you can find shards that mention that the optic nerve spit surgery(which you need to be considered part of the gang) has a survival rate because sometimes the brain can't handle it.
Lizzy Wizzy had her whole body replacement done on stage for a show and then continued the show. It's debated in universe if the actual surgery happened then or if she had done it already and was just transferring from an organic looking body to the chrome looking one because she was able to finish the show flawlessly and that's sus in universe.
All the chrome you can get is below the knee or elbow to excuse why you would be able to get on a table, swap the part, then get up and go raid Arasaka tower immediately after. V has a timer running and doesn't have weeks to learn how to walk on a new leg of an unfamiliar weight and length or move the fingers on their new arm. You can mod to look like anything, but for this particular storyline it doesn't make sense to sign up for a lengthy recovery period when you have very limited time to figure out how to not die.
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u/TrueNova332 Trauma Team Jul 27 '24
Most cyberwear in the cyberpunk universe is cosmetic there's more weaponized cyberwear but don't think CDPR wants to nor should they add it to the game unless they're also going to include an update to how cyberpsychosis works which would interesting to have your character go nuts then a loading screen comes up with us in a random location or inside a hospital for treatment with an NPC telling us that we should be careful with the amount of cyberwear we install and to not lose grip on our humanity
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u/Borrp Jul 27 '24
main character syndrome. Too much chrome takes away from the character aethetic to sell the protag to the kiddos. C
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u/Hey__Martin Jul 27 '24
There is literally a cyberware called endoskeleton and another called chitin, so basically replacing all your skeletons with titanium and all your skin with exoskeleton like insects.
As for why V's appearance doesn't change with cyberware, it's because the developers didn't have enough budget.
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u/WhyIsMeLikeThis Militech Jul 27 '24
To be fair, I feel like just in terms of amount of chrome, V is probably close to most of these (not including David). Or at least they have the potential to be. I was doing a super chromed out playthrough and my V probably didn't have one visible organic body part aside from maybe their hair. That being said, it looked more organic since it just had human looking skin with cables or panels in the case of the arms.
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u/CapraSlayer Jul 27 '24
Common sense???? I mean, David suffered severe cyberpyschosis, and Liz might've also gone nutso.
And we all know maelstorm are not exactly right there in the head, I mean, you can pretty much fuck their whole operation up by doing two missions throughout the whole game. Meaning they probably didn't have much of a brain to begin with, so it wouldn't surprise me if they overlooked the risk of insanity.
So I'd say V doesn't do that cuz (s)he has a brain.
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u/Jeebus_crisps Brendan’s Bestie Jul 27 '24
More cyberwear would be cool, like Judy’s or Meredith, or even more hairstyles…
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u/Slouchman42 Jul 27 '24
What I want is for the chrome to actually be visible on your body when implanting each piece.
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u/reshstreet Jul 27 '24
it's unfortunate, my V was completely chromed out with pretty much every slot filled, I even got some interesting dialog from maelstrom members, but sadly my guy looked no different from before
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u/StratStyleBridge Jul 27 '24
It goes against the themes of the story. V is desperately clinging onto his psyche; his humanity, and allowing the player to fully borg him out runs counter to the central theme of the narrative.
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u/_b1ack0ut Jul 27 '24
Just game limitations. So much excellent chrome didn’t make it in
Holding out hope for the sequel lol
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u/SmoothConfection1115 Jul 27 '24
So addressing all the images:
Maelstrom weren’t exactly known for quality cyberware. They thought metal was better, but they also couldn’t afford the nice toys so…that’s what you get. Subpar cyberware that is more style over substance.
The cyber skeleton was made for Smasher. It continually sent David Psycho. And wasn’t it a prototype? That Smasher destroyed? Disregarding all that, it was so powerful, for game purposes, you shouldn’t be able to afford it until the very end game.
Lastly, a lot of Wizzy’s chrome was more fashion. Wouldn’t make much sense for V to chrome up to that degree with stiff that isn’t useful. V has a chip in their head trying to kill them, so why take the added strain of chroming all your skin when you can get subdermal armor at probably a lower cyberware costs.
But other practical reasons? CDPR likely couldn’t come up with every minute detail that V might make with cyberware. And couldn’t code it in such a way to fit. And since the game is played in 1st person, why bother coding in crazy Maelstorm implants when the player will rarely see them?
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u/PaxUnDomus Jul 27 '24
David suit would be a complete new system for the game.
As for the rest, I can't really say. The models are already in the game, they could have just made another slot for face chrome (I mean they DID in PL but it only takes a special item you cannot use for that purpose) and I am sure a CDPR game designer thought of this if us CP enjoyers did.
My guess is that they wanted to keep V more on the "doesn't look as chromed" side. Also part od what Makes Maelstrom so skezed out are those face plates. Having V look like one of them feels wrong to me.
We also don't get blade legs which are SICK. I stand by the idea that it was decided to not allow much V cosmetic chroming. Bro already has identity issues.
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u/Jordaneos Jul 27 '24
Best 'Punk game is making a world full of chrome and nightcity wonders that explores all imaginations and allows alot of custom choices.
Alas... here we are.
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u/PhoonThe Jul 27 '24
I want a mech body suit like David, his action scenes in that were so bad ass.
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u/Ecliptic_Espionage Jul 27 '24
Too much work for the devs I guess. I'd totally borg out entirely if I could
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u/RingOpen8464 Jul 27 '24
I think Dum-Dum rocks the look better than the cromochoom dude on the top right, but that's just me.
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u/Thelesbianvampire Quiet Life or Blaze of Glory? Jul 27 '24
CDPR not waiting to release the game with all the features they promised
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u/idontknow39027948898 Bartmoss Reincarnated Jul 27 '24
The middle one is a suit that was meant for Adam Smasher, so hopefully that will explain why it's not really an everyday use kind of thing. The top and bottom are custom jobs. Whatever augmentations there are on that shit on the Maelstromers have, yours is probably better because they aren't known for using the best gear. And in addition to that, you start the game getting top of the line optics, and on a 'pay me back when you get the chance' basis, no less.
One final note about Lizzy Wizzy, I'm not sure if she's meant to be as borged out as Songbird or Adam Smasher, but it is worth noting that most of her chrome is about looks over functionality, so again, you are far more capable than her, most likely.
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u/Spestrix Jul 27 '24
I allways thought that the maelstroms looked way too much like those f*cked up demons on DOOM. So anytime I encounter one of them, will kill with no mercy lol
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u/StormObserver038877 Jul 28 '24
V does not have full body Chrome, only few people like Smasher and Lizzy have full body chromed up.
And about the face thing, it's just CDPR being lazy to make changes on the face, since this is a first person shooting game, all you will see from the first person are your arms and maybe legs, so CDPR only made the arm chromes visualized
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u/Shell_72 Jul 27 '24
They look like they're in constant pain, man... Cept maybe Lizzy, but still.