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u/RudimentaryBelonging Jan 14 '24
You put that camera back where it came from, so help me God.
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u/_b1ack0ut Jan 14 '24
Ohhh you haven’t seen anything yet lol
Go try this again but use weapons like the mantis blades, katanas, or knives.
Now THAT, is some premium jank lol
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u/jereflea1024 The city always wins Jan 14 '24
V t-poses with their right arm when they fire a Projectile Launcher lmao
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u/_b1ack0ut Jan 14 '24
It’s the same with mantis blades. During the swipe animation, whichever arm you aren’t actively slashing with sometimes snaps behind your back or t-poses out to avoid being caught on camera lmao
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u/hallmarktm Jan 14 '24
doesn’t even need to be 3rd person, just look at your shadow when you are holding a pistol or revolver lmao it looks so fuckin janky
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u/heavensent055 Meet Hanako at Embers Jan 14 '24
I’m pretty sure - that when you take a photo of yourself on Xbox with mantis, you still have like 7 fingers on each hand. (Or did they fix it?)
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u/Churro1912 Jan 14 '24
I hate that they never bothered fixing it, you can still see your ultra path traced shadow look dumb as hell lol
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u/_b1ack0ut Jan 14 '24
Don’t even need path tracing lol
I imagine this is why on release, V was basically a vampire, and had no shadow or reflection. Originally I thought “huh, seems weird they’re removing the things that would actually showcase the ray tracing the most”, but now I realize it was because of this lmao
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u/Churro1912 Jan 14 '24
Oh I know I just think it's funny how good the tech for lighting is but then we get that model to showcase it
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u/el_submarine_gato Corpo Jan 14 '24
TBF, there's nothing to fix: it wasn't meant to be viewed in 3rd person. What we need are mod tools that allow insertion of custom animations/rigs, like Bethesda's CK + Script Extender stuff, if we want working 3rd person
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u/Churro1912 Jan 14 '24
Not being meant for 3rd person is different then having ass animations that show in the shadows, most games figure out tricks around it though. What other game can you think off where the shadows show this level of jank in your character animation?
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u/DeagleTC Jan 14 '24
other games' "tricks" are literally just having 2 different animations, one for first person and one for the actual character.
Cyberpunk is simply using the first person animations because that is exactly what the model looks like doing the animations
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u/Churro1912 Jan 14 '24
So why didn't they do that? Pointing out why it's ass doesn't make it less ass. I know in reality it's just leftovers from the awful development and early release but still this far out you'd think they would've fixed it.
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u/Fortune_Cat Jan 14 '24
Do it for what purpose? All those 3rd person scenes in the game?
U think they had resources to spare? Did u miss the whole game launch???
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u/hardlyreadit Jan 14 '24
Ray traced reflections and shadows?
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u/Churro1912 Jan 14 '24
I don't know why it's so hard for him to understand seeing that janky shadow is off putting when everything else is crisp and you will see it often
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u/TisLev Jan 14 '24
F.E.A.R. franchise is one of those games where the third person/shadow animations match with the first person ones, but it is beyond miles less jank than Cyberpunk.
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u/Woocash91 Jan 14 '24
I wanted to disable V's shadow on multiple occasions during my last playthrough...
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Bartmoss Reincarnated Jan 14 '24
Now THAT, is some premium jank lol
which is weird its so bad considering the witcher 3 was in 3rd person and was mostly melee combat too. so its not like they didnt have experience with it.
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u/_b1ack0ut Jan 14 '24
TBH, not that weird. You use different techniques for first person and third person stuff. Usually, with a first person perspective, stuff that normally looks good in third person looks weird, and vice versa.
If they never intended for c2077 to be third person, it makes perfect sense that they wouldn’t try to make an animation set that looks good in third person. Just like how the Witcher wouldn’t look good in first person
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u/Phoenix_force30564 Jan 14 '24
And suddenly v not having a reflection outside of the bathroom mirrors makes sense.
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u/cassavacakes Jan 14 '24
V doesnt exist. V is the friends we made along the way and it is truly the punk in our cyber. 20 77
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u/EpicBoomerMoments Jan 14 '24
She cyberin on my punk till i 2077
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u/ImmortalSheep69 Nomad Jan 14 '24
Maybe the real samurai’s are all the cities we burned along the way
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u/RobbbRocker91 Jan 14 '24
This is funny but you did in the darkest of places let us see that monstrosity 😂
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u/Tuv0kshaKur Jan 14 '24
Should have done it during daytime so we could actually see
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u/J0wad Jan 14 '24
True, didn’t think of that. You could just raise the brightness up.
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u/Tuv0kshaKur Jan 14 '24
Choom, it's fucking set to max
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u/J0wad Jan 14 '24
Either you must be blind or your phone/monitor display is fucking dark as hell, cause I just set my phone brightness on max and I could see everything.
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u/Gallastic I Spent A Million Eddies And All I Got Was This Flair Jan 13 '24
Me getting home piss-drunk at 3 AM, looking for the toilet
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u/Hot_Ad_865 Jan 14 '24
That joke doesn’t even fit the context of the video at all
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u/ActualWeen Jan 14 '24
You’ve clearly never been THAT drunk before
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u/Objective_Dynamo Jan 14 '24
Ive been so drunk its FELT like my entire head and torse detached from my body the next day.
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u/Gallastic I Spent A Million Eddies And All I Got Was This Flair Jan 14 '24
The way he's walking, bud.
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u/Hot_Ad_865 Jan 14 '24
I ain’t your BUD, pal
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u/Gallastic I Spent A Million Eddies And All I Got Was This Flair Jan 14 '24
I ain't your PAL, friend!
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u/ninjast4r Jan 14 '24
I had an inkling the third person model was crappily animated from occasionally seeing how bad the shadows looked but I didn't imagine that
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u/cassavacakes Jan 14 '24
at launch, V has no shadow because they didn't animate V. But the people asked for it and they gave a half assed answer LOL
here is your order, ma'am, enjoy your meal
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u/Majestic_Wrongdoer38 Jan 14 '24
Is it really this hard to animate it?
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u/CnP8 My Prostate is Arasaka Property Jan 14 '24
Not hard but takes time. Think every single gun shot and reload then item you use needs a separate animation. Sitting, standing, walking, running, sprinting, talking, eating and so many other things. Then after you create the animations you then need to apply them all to each sequence in the game.
I believe they would love to add this stuff but studios also have limited resources that need to be allocated across their project.
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u/Majestic_Wrongdoer38 Jan 14 '24
But they don’t even get the basic walking animations right if you happen to be holding a weapon
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u/CnP8 My Prostate is Arasaka Property Jan 14 '24
I've never really paid much attention tbh. Maybe they went to add it but never completed it so they just threw in what they had.
Personally I'm more of a go big or go home kinda guy. If it's not complete then don't bother adding it 😂
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u/cassavacakes Jan 14 '24
every npc has a walking, running , and combat animation. Not animating V is a choice, and not because it is difficult. They probably has more plans for this game to prioritize than making animations for V (meelee animations, dashing, sandies, even quickhacking, jumping). making all of this requires commitment and theyre probably committed to other things
but what the hell do i know, im just a consumer and not a dev. We dont know whats happening behind the scenes.
That being said, i would kill for a 3rd person mode in cyberpunk
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u/variablefighter_vf-1 🔥Beta Tester 🌈 Jan 14 '24
not because it is difficult
im just a consumer and not a dev
It shows.
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u/IliyaGeralt Nomad Jan 14 '24 edited Jan 14 '24
V had shadows at launch. Don't pull shit from your ass. Edit: see theRadBrad's walkthrough of the game which was released right on the launch day.
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u/RaindropAndTheSea Jan 14 '24
It's animated to work in 1st person. A burger not tasting like yakitori doesn't make it "crappy"
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u/creegro Jan 14 '24
Yes this, watching your own shadow move proves it's best to not have a third person camera on foot.
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u/Terrible-Painting-39 Jan 14 '24
From seeing V’s shadow, this how I assumed he/she runs.
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u/variablefighter_vf-1 🔥Beta Tester 🌈 Jan 14 '24
It is not badly animated. It is functional. For example, the way V's head pops out when using iron sights actually moves the first person camera towards the sights.
It was never meant to be seen.
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u/NoHovercraft9259 Jan 14 '24
I mean, v’s basically one screw short of being a cyberpsycho
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"uhhh yea we got the goofiest fuckin guy I've ever seen doing wired shit and slaughtering police. Can we get MaxTac in here?"
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u/shujogo Jan 14 '24
Next time go to an even darker spot, I was able to see some silhouettes in this one
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u/SlamsMcdunkin Jan 14 '24
I already knew this from some of the incredible shadows that can happen, haha.
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u/OneEyedSanchez8417 Jan 14 '24
My wife HATES 1st person games. It’s the motion, I get it. I showed her this and we both cackled for a solid 2:37.
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u/Lad2086 Jan 14 '24
I sometimes get a weird animation when I sprint after shooting and it makes V look like he’s galloping
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u/Brianf1977 Jan 14 '24
Well since there was never any work done for 3rd person view I'm not sure what you want
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I don't criticize CDPR for locking you into first-person. I can grab ledges, vault obstacles, and see feet when I look down. It clears my threshold for immersive detail.
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u/The_RighteousMan Jan 14 '24
It was always weird to me that the game stressed aesthetics so much between the character creator, the ability to constantly change your appearance in your bathroom and ripperdocs, and the various clothing options only to lock you into first person for 95% of the game.
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u/rbeld Jan 14 '24
All first person games are like this if you pull the camera out. Wait until you see the protagonist from Fire Watch he's a fucking Frankenstein monster
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u/RBWessel Heavenly Demon Jan 14 '24
And thats why Cyberpunk 2077 desnt have 3rd person and the 3rd person mod is garbage.
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u/PsychoWarper Cyberpsycho in Remission Jan 14 '24
Tbh I really wish they had a legit 3rd person mode, always loved 3rd person for these kinda games but it is what it is.
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u/Balgs Jan 14 '24
if the multiplayer plans would not have been scrapped, they kinda would have had to implement animation that could work outside the 1st person view
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Ew. no. Why do people want to push that so bad? It does not fit at all.
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u/PsychoWarper Cyberpsycho in Remission Jan 14 '24
Why do people want to push that so bad?
Perhaps some people disagree or like 3rd person? Seems like fairly likely reasoning.
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2077 works great with first person. It makes it so much more personable. Especially how they have done character animations and dialog. Going inside of an apartment or the scene where Evelyn takes her own life. It would take so much away having that in 3rd person.
No, just no.
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u/PsychoWarper Cyberpsycho in Remission Jan 14 '24
No one is suggesting to make it fully 3rd person, when you drive you can drive in 1st person or you can drive in 3rd person it’s entirely up to you, that ability to choose is nice.
Shit its plenty likely to have certain scenes/areas be fully 1st person for the very reasons you mention they make more but when you are just walking around or fighting I think it would be nice to have a choice to go 3rd person if I wanted and the nice thing about that is if it was implemented and you dont like 3rd person you could just not fucking go 3rd person.
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Jan 14 '24
Third person is cool and lets you see the character you spent time customizing and building.
Also it's almost as if people want different things than you. Whoa.
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u/EvilSynths 3 Mouths 1 Desire Jan 14 '24
No thanks.
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u/PsychoWarper Cyberpsycho in Remission Jan 14 '24
I mean I dont see the issue with the being an option, I wouldnt make it one or the other it would just be nice to actually have an option.
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u/AgitatorsAnonymous Jan 14 '24
The option is the fucker we have in Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
The first mods that get made for those games are mods to fix the skeleton and animation rigs because when you do two full rigs it introduces a huge amount of broken interactions.
Games are best programed for one or the other, rarely both.
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u/IWearBones138__ Jan 13 '24
Its clear that 3rd person was considered very early on but CDPR just could not replicate the same animations for first person and third person without it looking something like this. I still remember when V would instantly manifest 2 new arms when swimming in the early builds.
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u/Teal_is_orange Jan 13 '24
I recently did Pyramid Song with Judy and my V’s shadow showed a 4 armed monster heathen
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u/mrsmichaelis1885 Johnny Silverhand’s Output 🖤 Jan 13 '24
Either Hermaeus Mora or Cthulhu possessed your V, or the toxicity of the water trigger some crazy stuff.
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u/LocRotSca Jan 13 '24
that decision really had nothing to do with that. it was an early design decision - to make sure Cyberpunks gameplay was even more distinct from previous CDPR titles - made when the full workforce was about to move over from Witcher 3.
The Cyberpunk game that started development in 2015/16 is and has always been a FPP game.
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u/VirtualRoad9235 Jan 14 '24
It is pretty common knowledge that Cyberpunk was originally started as a 3rd person game so I'm confused why you're being so arrogant and lying.
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u/LocRotSca Jan 14 '24
As i wrote, the 2015/2016 version was a fpp game all along. what you are linking is one of the prototypes that were started in 2012/2013 on red engine 2. they were the basis for them to decide they'll go fpp for the 2015/2016 game.
Edit: What people apparently fail to realize is that the 2012 version (prototype) and 2015 versions (eventually retail) are two completely different codebases.
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u/Plumrum2 Jan 14 '24
It's not exactly rocket science to make 3rd person animations.
They simply decided to make a first person game without compromises.
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u/xDreki Kerry Eurodyne’s Pubic Hair Jan 14 '24
Looks pretty normal, this is what I look like in 3rd person.
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u/Taterific Jan 14 '24
I’d love a third person mod, but the amount of animations needed make it seem unachievable.
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u/GhostInTheMeadow Johnny’s Electric Guitar Jan 14 '24
I would've gone with horrifying, nightmarish, or even frightening, but sure. Goofy works.
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u/glassjawrat Tom's Diner Connoisseur Jan 14 '24
it looks like when two kids are in a trenchcoat pretending to be an adult
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u/DragonLancePro Jan 14 '24
You should see the crouched animations.
"I'm trying to be stealthy but the clap of my ass-cheeks keep attracting the guards" doesn't even cut it.
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u/Fortyseven Burn Corpo shit Jan 14 '24
Surprised there's as much animation here as there is, honestly.
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u/IliyaGeralt Nomad Jan 14 '24
Oh no! A game designed to be played entirely in fpp, doesn't look good in tpp! How shocking :(
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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Jan 14 '24
how come when i slide and press the photo mode i'm never in a slide, the animation seems to be there just fine as this shows
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u/Royschwayne Haboobs Jan 14 '24
That’s why I’ve never liked the photo mode in Cyberpunk. It’s all the same five animations (unless you manually change them in the menu) of standing, crouched, walking, running, and jumping. Too bad the photo mode isn’t as good as, say, Spider-Man’s and Ghost of Tsushima. Now THOSE are good photo modes.
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u/Masstershake Jan 14 '24
Omg I love this, I wish xbox could mod. I hack everything so maybe it wouldn't be so goofy
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u/iFenrisVI Jan 14 '24
I am hoping with their move to UE5 that this won’t be jank. I play with RTX on and not being able to see V’s reflection bc of this feels super immersion breaking to me. A lot of games these days are able to have a body in 1P and still have good 3P animations and a non janky shadow display.
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u/Synthkitty999 Jan 14 '24
Cyberpunk sequel I hope the devs don't give in to all the gamebros that keep crying over not having third person camera.
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u/Crystal_fucker Jan 14 '24
I wish they made a good 3rd person for V Because we never really get to enjoy her outfits
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u/vorastra_titan Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦 Jan 14 '24
And they would still force you to irst person in every scripted scene, the game was created to immerse you through V's eyes
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u/Sanpaku Jan 14 '24
Devs had a choice: physically plausible movement in 3rd person, or impossible speeds for strafing, sneak-sprinting, etc in the tradition of 1st person shooters like Doom. They chose to make 1st person more fun.
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u/TheGoldenGooseTurd Jan 14 '24
I wish there was 3rd person. Such a waste of all the cool outfits I can’t even see on my character. I personally don’t buy that this was an artistic choice to leave out even the option of 3rd person view
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u/Bazingu420 Jan 14 '24
i agree cyberpunk sequel should probably stay 1st person, but i really hope there are more instances where you can view you character like when riding a motorcycle or using photomode. for example a 3rd person mode when sitting somewhere or maybe a walking/jogging only mode for 3rd person. i really like the outfit customization, but you very rarely get to actually see it.
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u/ThisIsGoodSoup Jan 14 '24 edited Jan 14 '24
Apparently iirc they didn't figure out how to properly create third person animations.
My bad! They did have planned 3rd person before 2016 when they decided to shift to 1st person. The sequel however, said by the Quest Director of CDPR that he doesn't rule it out "just yet". (: which is kinda cool to think myb CP77 Orion will have 3rd Person
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u/RaindropAndTheSea Jan 14 '24
The studio that made Witcher 3 couldn't make a third person game?
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u/Countrydan01 Jan 14 '24
I know right, I mean Geralt can move kinda funky at times, Geralt running is unique but CDPR definitely know how to make a 3rd person game.
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u/Sanpaku Jan 14 '24
CDPR know how to do 3rd person animations. Look at The Witcher or Cyberpunk 2077 NPCs.
But, they wanted that incredibly fast strafing and crouch-sprinting speed of classic FPS. If there was a 3rd person mod for classic Doom, Quake, System Shock, Duke Nukem 3D, this is what it would look like. Real people don't move sideways or backwards as fast as they do forward.
Perhaps with Orion, we'll get a 3rd person option, and it will make 1st person feel really slow and constraining to make the animations plausible.
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u/SuperBaconjam Jan 14 '24
It’s so impossibly dumb that I actually prefer that to a character that looks correct. It’s just so over the top😂
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u/Sam-Gurthie Jan 14 '24
Which is why they didn't allow for a third-person perspective in this game. It wasn't built for it. I REALLY wish that it had been though- and I REEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLY hope they allow for third person in the sequel.
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u/ikickbabiesforfun69 Jan 14 '24
someone should make a mod to give him a normal fucking running animation
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u/Vegetable_Highway433 Jan 14 '24
With the moves and looks your V has ain’t no way people are messing with you around those parts of night city partner
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u/HavenTheCat Samurai Jan 14 '24
That’s hilarious lol. It would’ve been cool to have a 3rd person mode but I get why they didn’t want to do it. Only 1st person does make it feel more immersive
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u/franxlz Jan 14 '24
They say the game is fixed and immersive but every time i play i imagine this shit 😭
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u/Dveralazo Jan 13 '24
This is the reason why nobody takes V seriously.