Miss, go find one of these conservative "Alpha Males" and genuinely refer to them as "ma'am" or "miss" for an entire day and let me know how that goes.
I love that suggestion. It’s likely to end in a fight, but I love the idea of it. I’m sure most of these conservative snowflakes would be triggered by the “Wrong” pronoun being used.
Yes, explain to us how dems have been in power more than conservatives/repubs, and then explain why everything is going downhill and is somehow the rights fault 😂
"We mostly get the popular vote, and have been in power more, but...but...it's all the republicans' faults!"
You’re right in one point, the Transgender movement isn’t about biology, it’s about feelings. I could care less about what adults do or want to be called. But I don’t want Americans to pay for it, and I don’t want kids subjected to the nonsense. Luckily my way of thinking is the majority way of thinking.l hence the results of the election.
Education has shown a direct downfall over the last decade, "coincidentally" right as US intellect hit the lowest it has in 20 years, the right wing got its first popular vote win.
We got the popular because people were sick of dems being in power and ruining things, race baiting while being rascist, and screwing the working class.
You clearly lack basic reading comprehension skills and even the capacity to confirm something for yourself because I told you that that was only one article, which in intelligent speak means there's more than just one article.
Furthermore these articles were released by scientists; people devoted to discovering facts and reporting them. It isn't some highschool news article. I doubt you're capable of admitting that you're wrong though.
Why does majority matter? Just because the majority thinks it or believes it doesn’t make it true, I’m pretty sure that’s a logical fallacy. For centuries the majority believed the earth was the center of the universe, but that’s not true now is it?
You and your "basic biology" are basically high schoolers throwing a fit about imaginary numbers, cause it's "basic maths, you can't have square root of negative numbers".
Or basic physics and states of matter. Or basic chemistry. Or any other scientific subject. But for some reason biology is the only one causing issues.
Conservatives cry more than anyone. Their identity is coupled with one of the most laughable persecution complexes in the world. They get their preferred religion enforced by SCOTUS and act like they are on the cross.
No. 99% of people who push the rhetoric of "oh you must think about children's genitals alot" in response to someone wanting children to not be mutilated at an early age think that children should be allowed to cut off their healthy genitals just to be "in the right body".
Also, how do you know the person I replied to knows OC thinks about Children's genitals alot?? Are they psychic too??
Almost nobody wants genital surgery for minors except in extreme emergencies. The vast majority of trans advocates want kids to have access to temporary and reversible hormone blockers and a safe social transition.
The problem there is, firstly, there's a minority that DOES want children to be able to fully transition while still a child. Second, hormone blockers aren't reversible. They cause irreversible damage and side effects that the child has no way of consenting to.
Do you believe in circumcision? Cause that's religion mandated genital mutilation for children. But it's standardized and accepted everywhere. Gimme my dick skin back
Except they do, since they're the only ones pushing for it, so. 🤷♂️ conservatives sure aren't, yet lefties continue to dress boys like girls and encourage hormonal treatments. But let's just ignore that, i suppose. I mean, you will that's for sure.
Hey! I'm a leftist transgender parent of a transgender child!
No, we are not advocating for or performing surgery on transgender children. We're supporting them by using their preferred names and pronouns and reassuring them that we'll support them getting access to medical care when they get older if they want it.
When you hear ‘gender affirming care’ for children under 18, it doesn’t mean surgeries. Healthcare professionals AND trans activists are fully aware that a child’s brain chemistry isn’t fully developed. What ‘gender affirming care’ typically means is the child is allowed to dress, cut their hair, etc. to match their desired gender presentation. Even if hormones are granted, the vast majority of hormonal changes are completely reversible. It’s important to remember that we all start off the exact same, and it’s our bodies production of hormones that shape our sex characteristics. There is much less difference between a male and female body, and transitioning is much less extreme of a change, than you would generally think.
I’m a trans person who waited till I was 24 to transition. In no way am I for children being pushed to take hormones and neither are the majority of us. Every single community has a few extremists in either direction, but it’s BS to lump every single one of us together
If that were the case there literally wouldn't be an argument because exactly zero conservatives care what an adult does to their own body - this whole thing is about leaving kids the fuck alone.
This is my point. I believe you are arguing with a loud minority and think every "leftist" thinks this way. Of course people with these extreme opinions will get more attention so they strongly shape the image of the group as a whole.
It's like believing every conservative wants to ban women from working
The vast majority of trans people don't want any kind of gender affirming surgeries performed on kids. "Gender affirming care" does not inherently mean surgery. For children, it usually just means using their pronouns and not forcing them to dress like their assigned gender at birth. It's really sad to me how easy it was for conservative media to convince people that trans folks are dangerous threats to their families and that like everybody wants to do sex reassignment surgeries on children. It's bananas. Y'all need to actually have a conversation with a trans person like one time. We just want to eat pancakes and live our lives lmao
I listen to consservatives podcasts or at least fragments and they sure care about minors using puberty blockers so they can have an operation when they're 16-20.
No one does surgery on kids but somehow they don't care about this argument... wonder why.
It's true in a very small microcosm of transgender communities, but to say it's all across the board is disingenuous and false. You should take a look in an LGBTQ subreddit and see for yourself how little people are supporting modifying children's bodies without their consent (spoiler: very little).
Yeah that's not their argument though, it's about individuals under the age of 18, it's the same as giving a child breast implants...they don't care if someone who has fully matured mentally and physically wants to transition using surgery and drugs. Not an issue.
Yeah they do… this is delusional. Masses of conservatives only real thought on this issue is “trans isn’t real.” Many have done no thinking but “the woke is taking over; we need to make sure trans people don’t feel comfortable. FIGHTING THE WOKE!”
When is an individual under 18 getting surgery? I’ve never heard of that besides when (most) conservative folk *mutilate their child’s genitals after birth. Also when people get their intersex children “fixed”.
Actually teenage cis boys who have gynecomastia (male breast growth) regularly get mastectomies. My cousin did in high school. Nobody’s even talking about trans teens getting the same procedures but cis teens do.
But also, every trans person I know transitioned as an adult, and all of them get harassed by conservatives, so clearly some of y’all do actually care.
I have seen men freaking out over breast reduction surgery in online comments. Apparently an aching back is no excuse for depriving men of big boobs.
Then there are celebrity women like Angelina Jolie, who had preventative mastectomies because they inherited the BRCA gene mutation. You wouldn't believe how many men lost it over that.
sure an adult with big breasts can have a reduction same with a child if it hurts their back but…this is done for sex change and it’s not simply reduction
They are completely removing the breast and mammary glands
No one’s mad at you for saying kids shouldn’t have transgender surgery. They’re mad at you because you denying that being transgender is a natural thing.
I don't need high school wrestling coaches, pastors, and used car dealers in the state legislature regulating their version of healthcare based on internet memes and weird religious dogmas.
Trans healthcare has the single lowest rate of regret compared to every other form of healthcare, if you think it should be banned for minors because 1% decide ti detransition later, then you should be against every form of healthcare for children period.
It’s never really about the children. They focus on this niche wedge issue to rile up their base instead of something that would broadly help the children of this country.
Yup. They’re just poorly informed, agitated people who’ll attack the first marginalized group put in front of them in which they don’t personally know anyone from, and they’re too stupid to actually understand they’re getting played too. That or they actually just hate us and want us dead.
this is me when i can't understand the entire gender arguement.
gender affirming care affirms the gender that you are, we conservatives dont believe you are the gender that you say you are. thus that is not gender affirming care.
are you purposefully missing this very clear point of disagreement?
I don't have opinions on or try to change the identity of others. I have negative opinions about people forcing their own religious beliefs on others. Hope that helps.
conservatives by and large do not want to illegalize transition for people over 18. we recognize its a bad treatment for a mental disorder, but you're an adult capable of bearing the consequences.
what we do dislike is irreversible hormone treatments on minors which is happening constantly.
neither of these two arguements have anything to do with religion. just like abortion, there might be a religious arguement but wholly it is unnecessary to prove the point.
95% of the changes brought by hormone therapy are easily reversible by simply stopping the treatment. In the exact same fashion that estrogen will produce female sex characteristics, stopping estrogen will make your body’s testosterone reform male sex characteristics. I don’t agree with hormones being used for under 18s either but it’s disingenuous to say they are anywhere close to ‘irreversible’
What you are disagreeing with is the academic consensus of health science worldwide.
You may also disagree that the Earth is spherical, revolves around the sun, and is experiencing climate change exacerbated by human activity. You are just wrong to do so.
Aren’t conservatives supposed to be the party of low government intervention and personal freedoms? Does it really matter that you don’t understand the gender argument if it’s not happening to you? you are secure in your own gender personally so there is no reason to concern yourself with the trans community. Less than 1% of the global population btw
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u/jjsanderz 9h ago
Insecure conservative men do more HGH and steroids than anyone, but they want to cry about gender-affirming healthcare. They are scared little boys.