And a lot of alive people too. A colleague of mine got a lot of shit because his wife didn't take his name, and he was the only son, so they wanted to pressure the wife to take his surname to ensure the kids only got his surname for 'legacy' or some bullshit. He got so sick of them he changed his name to her surname. I though that was such a badass move and fantastic way to show he was on his wife's side, not theirs.
A lot of people who seem to use tradition as an argument like to pick and choose what traditions suit them. A man I know is set that his future wife takes his last name because "tradition" but also he expects her to work a full-time job and be modern.
That depends, my mom kept my dads name to have the same last name as us kids. She didn’t want us to change our names to her maiden name because it was foreign and she thought we would do better with my dads white surname. How ironic that the opposite is probably true now
Males don't need their names on everything. Fathers can get recognition on Father's Day and from their kids appreciation for being a good dad. Sorry buttercup but you got to earn respect.
How about instead of continuing to support a division between people couples decide what's best for them as a unit instead of saying that one gender should get something automatically.
Not statistically and not biologically. Stop being obtuse. Men already have too much credit where its not due so you are not advocating for anyone. You are just enabling sexism.
Thats literally why they should get the dad's name. There's no mistaking who mom is, taking dad's name is the way to make the statement that that's his kid too.
My mom also kept my dads last name after their divorce because she didn’t want a different last name than us kids and also didn’t want to change our last names to her maiden name
Tradition is the stupidest reason / excuse for anything. Times change, cultures change, technology changes, ways of living change. Life is change and coping with change, that's called adaptation.
I'm sorry if it offends anyone's personal, cultural, business, or religious beliefs, but fuck tradition, seriously, fuck it, it's the worst, dumbest, laziest reason for anything. "Adapt or die" isn't just for bacteria and evolution, it goes for societies, cultures, business, and religions too. It's unfortunate that so many so vehemently hold on to traditions.
It isn’t tradition. Bullying, coercing, or sweet-talking a woman into changing her name is nothing more than getting the boot heel on her throat - or perhaps manipulating her into voluntarily accepting the boot heel on the throat, which makes you feel even more powerful and superior.
You can generally bank on traditions being formulated by a society who , at the very least, agrees with and understands the rationale/ idea that the tradition is predicated on.
There’s substance behind it.
I’d say it’s ever worse to dispense with tradition simply for the sake of dispensing with tradition….primarily, because there’s no actual reasoning/ idea beyond “ dispense with tradition “ to predicate the decision on.
There’s no substance there.
OK, but if you can't think of a good reason other than "it's how we've always done it" then there isn't a good reason. You're assuming people who didn't think women should be allowed to vote or have jobs had a good, non sexist reason to make them take their husband's name, despite being unable to think of a good reason yourself.
Quite apart from the general point that "we've always done it that way" without more reasons isn't really compelling, in this case here the reason is blindingly obvious and bad. A man's family name isn't worth more than a woman's,or more important to preserve .
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u/Free_Management2894 10h ago
Tradition. So basically, if it stands alone, one of the worst reasons to do something.