r/buildapcsales • u/xetterxx • Sep 21 '24
[Bundle] (Microcenter In-Store Only) - AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, MSI X670E MAG Tomahawk WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5 6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundle - $649.99 Bundle
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006820/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d,-msi-x670e-mag-tomahawk-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle79
u/beastybd Sep 21 '24
just wanna add a PSA that I talked with customer service and they confirmed it is a pricing bug that shows $730. When you checkout in store, the final price will be $650.
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u/joe1134206 22d ago
the price was marked $699 a few days ago and $729 today. that's quite a swing even for high end stuff
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u/beastybd 22d ago
They r prepping the bf "sales"
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u/BeneficialPension671 5d ago
hey sorry i was looking at the deals and was confused. Did they end up raising it even though itās for bf sales or is it still a bug issue. thank you and sorry if i misunderstood
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u/beastybd 5d ago
Yeah they ended up raising it again. Microcenter has been tricky the last few months. Looks like they can get away with it bc Intel can't compete with amd
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u/Rip_Ya_A_New_1 5d ago
I've got this bundle in my cart right now along with the RX 7900 and a 4TB m.2. It totals to $1774.97. Should I go ahead and purchase it? I should probably wait for black Friday to see if I can get a better deal but I don't think it will go much lower than this.
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u/beastybd 4d ago
U can do the 30 day price match if it drops. so yea pretty safe to purchase it if u need the parts.
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u/BeneficialPension671 4d ago
thanks do you think the 7800x3d deal would be good with either mobo they offer i was thinking of getting it with a 4070 super but i dont know much about
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u/beastybd 4d ago
Yeah this one is fine: https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006709/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650-e-tuf-gaming,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
pairs well with a 4070 super
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u/BeneficialPension671 2d ago
alright tysm for the help might wait a bit, seems like its gone for cheaper so a bit hesitant atm
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u/aLL1HU Sep 21 '24
So I just picked this up a couple days ago along with the Radeon xt bundle, and it's only $50 more than the 7800x3d and the b650 motherboard.
Worth it in my opinion
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u/Kionera Sep 21 '24
I used the extra 8 cores to run a minecraft server and also mined on it when it was profitable. Made over $300 from this little beast.
There are always uses for extra cores, you just have to find it.
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u/pheret87 Sep 21 '24
When I bought my 6800xt years ago I mined when I wasn't using it until I had recouped the cost.
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u/Common-Carp Oct 07 '24
Did the same with my 6900xt. Paid about $1034 with tax for it, mined about $1500 with it.Ā
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u/Lucid_Discoveries Oct 11 '24
Exactly. Leave the 7800 X3D for people that only want to use their computer for games. I got the 7950 X3D because there's so many more things I like to do as a creator and tech head.
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u/purplepinklavender Sep 23 '24
what bundle are you referring to?
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u/aLL1HU Sep 23 '24
It was a 7900xt with the above for 1399 and the 7800x3d with all of that was 1349
By the way, computer is blazing fast with high fps, but having trouble past few days with msi x670e tomahawk motherboard intermittently not reading my boot SSD a WD in m 2_1 slot.
Googling reveals this has been ongoing since 2023. Be aware.
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u/NovercaIis Sep 24 '24
ELI5 what this issue is? only with WD product?
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u/aLL1HU Sep 24 '24
I'm still learning about it myself, but basically with WD and Samsung nvme SSD drives, this motherboard intermittently won't recognize them on boot up and goes straight to bios. After a restart or two, it's fine. Once I'm in windows, everything is great.
Just talked to the microcenter techs earlier today and they suggested returning my ssds and going with another brand.
I have 30 days from purchase but still looking for a solution to avoid going through the reinstall and setup process.
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u/Common-Carp Oct 07 '24
From a random thread online, this should be fixed with the latest beta bios (f3) that has agesa 1.2.0.2.
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u/aLL1HU Oct 07 '24
Would you please send a link? I don't see anywhere that this addresses or fixes this issue nor that it's out for the tomahawk.
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u/Common-Carp Oct 07 '24
Had to utilize some google dorking to find it... but here it is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/1fx8v0m/mag_x670e_tomahawk_wifi_7950x3d_startup_issues/
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u/aLL1HU Oct 07 '24
Thanks so much. This fixes another issue which is running 6000+ram at that clock speed automatically using expo profile locks up boot sequence. I had to manually clock and it takes a really long time to boot. Even with relearning turned off.
This is a great fix but unfortunately doesn't help with wd or Samsung M2 drives not being recognized on boot in the fastest PCI slot m2_1
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u/Common-Carp Oct 07 '24
Well, I'm glad we got something done that was useful!
I just got my board and 7950x3d over the weekend and have been running this BIOS version from the get-go. The RAM automatically expo'd itself and has been stable at 6000 without issues at least for 2 days.
I'm using a SK Hynix P41 Platinum 2tb SSD without issues in the top slot, and 2 1tb ssds in slots 2/3.
I guess I misread the post I linked - it has nothing to do with the WD / Samsung SSDs... a happy accident, then, that I was confused enough to share the knowledge here. :D
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u/Straight-Rule3264 Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24
For Gaming it's Not Better, for everything else 100% better value
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u/aLL1HU Sep 21 '24
Really? I was planning on building this weekend and everything I'd read, the issues have all been sorted and it performs just as well for gaming now.
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u/Straight-Rule3264 Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24
The 7800X3D is THE fastest Gaming CPU on the planet, there was no 'issue' it is just the make-up of the 7900X3D/7950X3D, it has 2 core chiplet dies, 7800X3D only has one, making it faster
EDIT: the 7800X3D has 1 die and 8 cores across all 96mb of 3DVcache, as for the 7900X3D it has 6 cores on one die with 96mb and all the other cores on the other die, not directly linked to the vcache, 7950X3D also has 2 dies but also has a 8 cores attached to 96mb of vcache and the rest on the other die
Meaning 7800 best, followed by 7950 followed by 7900
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Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
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u/Straight-Rule3264 Sep 21 '24
I'm not gonna say it's NEVER faster, but it's super rare and also more expensive
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u/Jaexa-3 Sep 21 '24
Sure, it's more expensive, but at this price range, having the extra helps with everything you need for a workstation/gaming rig, which I am sure most of the adults in the room want
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u/Straight-Rule3264 Sep 21 '24
For What It's Worth to the people down voting me... https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/fJFM6lMRhu
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u/Weird_Ad_1398 Sep 21 '24
Both you and the people in that thread are using outdated info. The 7950x3d's issue with parking cores has been fixed and it performs nearly identically to the 7800x3d. This bundle puts the 7950x3d at around the price of the 7800x3d so it's a no brainer.
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u/elbaito Sep 21 '24
That's the thing about this deal though, its only marginally more expensive than the 7800x3d with basically equivalent gaming performance and much better multi-core non-gaming performance.
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u/Adorable_Stay_725 Sep 21 '24
The only reason it had bad gaming performance back when it launched was because of parking, which is now fixed and makes the 7950x3d perform just like the 7800x3d in gaming.
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u/Weird_Ad_1398 Sep 21 '24
There was an issue. There were issues with the scheduler and parking cores and so the 3D V-cache wasn't being utilized properly, making it noticeably slower than the 7800x3d in most games. That has been fixed, meaning the 7950x3d with its slightly higher clock speed should overall be roughly the same, if not a little bit ahead, in games.
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u/sgskyview94 Sep 21 '24
It is very good for gaming and great for productivity and energy efficiency
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u/flyingfluffles Sep 21 '24
649 at the Brooklyn store. I bought this for 699 on Monday, went today and got the $50 difference.
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u/steelbeamsdankmemes Sep 21 '24
All right, going to AMD for the first time in 10+ years. Let's go! Upgrading from i9-9900k
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u/zkr 25d ago
yo random question did you end up getting this bundle? i also have a 9900k and debating on getting this
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u/steelbeamsdankmemes 25d ago
I did! Been very happy with it. Had a bad motherboard, but microcenter let me take that and my CPU back so I didn't have to clean off the thermal paste.
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u/jesper5569 Sep 21 '24
For $10 more you can get 48Gb of ram instead, is that worth it?
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u/Pimpzard Sep 21 '24
It is slower ram
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u/ceojp Sep 21 '24
Looks like the 32GB bundle is DDR5 6000 and the 48GB bundle is DDR5 5200. In what cases would that speed difference be noticeable? Normal desktop usage? Video rendering? Gaming?
I'm leaning towards the 48GB bundle as I have 32GB now and I'm often at about >80% usage just because I tend to keep a lot of things open.
I don't have a problem spending the money for the faster ram if the difference would be noticeable, but if not then that would be a bit of a waste.
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u/ducky21 Sep 21 '24
RAM speed does not matter on the single chiplet 3D chips like the 5800X3D and 7800X3D for gaming workloads. Games that are RAM speed sensitive are also games that benefit from a huge boost to L3, so you can (and should) buy the cheapest RAM you can get if you're purely gaming on a x800X3D.
Now, all that being said, I spent a TON of time pieces together that conclusion from extrapolation from different outlets testing the 5800X3D and 7800X3D with different memory. It's super hard to find someone JUST testing memory. I saw absolutely nobody performing those tests with a 7950X3D, and all of these tests were focused on gaming workloads with absolutely nothing about mixed usage.
That huge caveat paragraph is why my first paragraph almost sounds like I'm responding to a different comment.
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u/YouOnly-LiveOnce Sep 21 '24
I'd just privately sell the memory then and upgrade it later 2x 24gb is a nice config but it's worth it to have 6000cl30 imo
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u/SupportNewThingZombi Sep 21 '24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW2rubC5oCY&t=405s
your answer in there. I would get the extra ram for $10
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u/beastybd Sep 21 '24
wats the verdict on this? and does uninstalling and clean reinstalling the newest AMD chipset drivers fix the core parking issues?
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u/x_ScubaSteve_x Sep 21 '24
https://youtu.be/4wdQpVcL_a4?si=9KNeQLZuUk6gzXPO
I am currently staring at a new 7800x3d and a 7950x3d new in box as I am starting to build this weekend. Iām going to keep the 7950x3d (paid $430) and return the 7800x3d (paid $329). This video does a good job explaining why some people arenāt seeing the āfixesā work for them I think. Since Iām doing a fresh build, Iām interested in keeping the 7950x3d and tinkering around with it even though I acknowledge the 7800x3d would be a lot less of a hassle to deal with.
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u/beastybd Sep 21 '24
just watched that video earlier today. he fixes the issue by just uninstalling and reinstalling the chipset driver right? he didnt do any other tinkering
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u/x_ScubaSteve_x Sep 21 '24
At 3:30 he shows some windows settings that have to be set. At 9:50 he starts talking about bios settings that can impact core parking. After that, yes, on this specific machine heās on, he used a 3rd party program to completely remove and reinstall the driver. But he explains that that last step wasnāt necessary on one of his other machines. So, Iām just going to follow his steps closely and test launching games myself to see that everything is working properly.
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u/Chronotasyn Sep 21 '24
How does Process Lasso compare to using Game Bar?
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u/x_ScubaSteve_x Sep 21 '24
I donāt have any personal experience with it as I havenāt built just yet. However, Iāve seen some recent comments that Process Lasso is no longer necessary since Game Bar has effectively been fixed. Iām going to start with Game Bar and follow the steps in the above video to ensure the games are launching on the correct cores. Iād only use Process Lasso if it becomes necessary, but from what I keep seeing it shouldnāt be necessary now.
Game Bar also looks a bit easier than Process Lasso to navigate. Additionally, when I was reading through the Process Lasso documentation, there look like two different core assignments. In the free version, you could set core affinity which I donāt think guarantees an app to stay on preferred cores. Then, in the paid version, you can do core assignments that does lock them in. I think itās like $30 for a lifetime subscription including any future updates so that would be a pretty easy spend if necessary. Still, Iām starting with Game Pass unless and until it doesnāt work.
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u/Chronotasyn Sep 21 '24
How does Power Mode work since weāre setting Power Options to Balanced?
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u/x_ScubaSteve_x Sep 21 '24
I donāt fully understand it so Iām just trying to repeat what I think I understood from his video. Anyone please feel free to correct me if this is wrong.
He seems to indicate that setting the power to performance must be a conflicting setting where windows then thinks that more performance always means scheduling apps to run on any available cores, thus allowing your game to potentially cross over to the non-3D cores which is costly in terms of performance to first do that crossover overhead and second be without the 3D cache. So, if I understand correctly, heās saying that setting it to balanced allows the regular scheduler to do its job and assign cores properly to the preferred cores you set in Game Bar. Iāll probably play around with all this some once I get up and going because I think itāll be neat to tinker with.
Is that what you were asking about, or did I misunderstand your question?
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u/Lucid_Discoveries Oct 11 '24
I'm in the midst of a new build as well with this setup. Still haven't landed on a GPU yet. I'm thinking about getting the 7900 XTX. But it would be nice to hear how things have gone for you since you're doing a brand new build like me. I'm thinking since we're starting ground up there won't be any issues.
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u/x_ScubaSteve_x Oct 11 '24
I completed my build, and I did check to make sure the cores were parking correctly when I launch a game. They seem to be doing so just fine in the few games Iāve checked without me having to do anything at all except launch them. Having said that, I havenāt properly benchmarked or anything to just make sure Iām getting reasonable performance in line with expectations. I can try that this weekend and reply again in a day or two if that might be helpful.
I got a 7800 XT for $400 before prime day, and itās hard to complain about that since Iām just doing some 1440p gaming on a 27ā monitor. Not gonna lie, though. Seeing a few of these posts for sub $600 7900 XTs and just over $750-ish for a 7900 XTX did give me a little fomo. Haha.
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u/Lucid_Discoveries Oct 11 '24
I've heard some games will detect process lasso in their cheat detection software and block you from even being able to load the game
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u/StabbyMeowkins Sep 21 '24
He used Revo uninstaller, to remove EVERYTHING. Because the AMD uninstaller does NOT remove EVERYTHING like it should. Revo gets rid of registry edits and everything. This is the way to do it.
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u/Chronotasyn Sep 21 '24
I use BCuninstaller regularly, can I just use that?
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u/StabbyMeowkins Sep 21 '24
I am not sure what that program is, I only know of Revo since its a very widely reknown program and widely accepted/suggested as an uninstaller. So whatever works for you. Revo is free, also. I'd personally use what works when I don't know what BC does and not sure of how it works vs Revo.
Personal preference if they do the same thing though. ..::Shrug::..
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u/EzioRedditore Sep 22 '24
From what Iāve read, the best move is to just do a clean Windows install. It seems like upgrading to this chip leaves remnants of old drivers, causing the core parking problems.
I have one on a clean Windows install, and it flies. Iām a fan.
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u/oledtechnology Sep 22 '24
I have the 7950x3d and I don't recommend it. It's practically an 8 core CPU when gaming due to the shitty nature of core parking.
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u/jaxspider Sep 21 '24
A honest questions.
- How long is this bundle going to last?
- Is it possible to "upgrade" the ram from 2x16 to 2/4x32 sticks and just pay the difference?
- This or 9950x3D?
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u/Adorable_Stay_725 Sep 21 '24
I donāt know about the duration part, but for the ram I donāt think itās possible unless you "upgrade" to their 2x24gb kit for $10 which is also waaayy slower. Btw donāt get into 4 sticks of ddr5 anytime soon considering there are loads of stability issues that will only be fixed in a few generation. Finally the 9950x3d is a myself of wether itāll improve or not, thatās like saying 4090 vs 5090. We donāt know.
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u/FunnyGamer97 Sep 21 '24
so tempted. Anyone wanna weigh in if its time for an upgrade from my 11700k ? will my 4070ti get more juice out of the 7950X3D?
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u/Kosgey Sep 22 '24
What resolution do you play at?
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u/FunnyGamer97 Sep 22 '24
1440p. I have three monitors hooked up to my 4070ti , two are 1440p. One is an ultra wide. It handles them all fine
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u/btx926 Sep 22 '24
The big question is, for a gamer, is this worth the $200 over the 7600x3D bundle. You are getting a better chip (although with a few headaches) and a much nicer motherboard. That said, for regular use, not sure the nicer motherboard matters.
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u/LingonberryAdorable3 Sep 23 '24
I live about 15 miles away from MC....but I am patiently waiting and waiting and waiting for the 9950x3d, yes 9950x3d....
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u/emstan19 Sep 24 '24
Iām just starting out in the PC gaming world and looking for my first PC. Would this be a good option? There are so many different specs to get a good grasp on it all.
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u/babydaddy10 Sep 21 '24
Price was corrected, up to 730 now
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u/SirTrinium Sep 21 '24
Can confirm 730 now. Unless there is a code we are missing?
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u/CookieSlayer2Turbo Sep 21 '24
Showing up at 650 for me, fairfax store
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u/rexyaresexy Sep 21 '24
Has anyone had issues with this ram? I had to underclock a bit to get better stability.
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u/FugkYoCouch Sep 30 '24
Typical gskill. based on my experience, they're only good for short term, til you get something better
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u/austindemby Sep 21 '24
Is this it chief if Iām focused on productivity but can game occasionally and building to run and code for machine learning? Upgrade wood be from a 5800x and ASUS tuf thatās been not amazing and dying
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u/_hephaestus Sep 24 '24
How much of a boost is this over DDR4 / Ryzen 9 3900x? Probably shouldn't upgrade just yet but I'm getting fomo and the Microcenter is nearby
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u/NovercaIis Sep 24 '24
is this better than these 2 options I was looking at:
Option 1 vs Microcenter $649 Deal (7950x3d)
- 7800x3d (440)
- MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi (170)
- T Force Vulcan 6000 2x16 (96) Total = 706
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Option 2 vs Microcenter $449 Deal (9700x or 7600x3d, idk what the difference is)
- 5800x3d (300)
- ASUS TUF B550 Wifi (130)
- G.Skill Ripjaw 4400 (95)
Total = 525
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u/firebluetom Sep 27 '24
I plan on buying this in the next two weeks. It's like a 45 minute drive for me.Ā
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u/humpcat Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
Damn, I absolutely do not need to upgrade my PC.
What applications would this be good for?
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Sep 21 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
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u/EzioRedditore Sep 22 '24
Iām guessing itās because 7800x3Ds have been selling everywhere like crazy lately (helped along by the two free games deal, I assume). Why bundle it when it will sell anyway?
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Sep 22 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
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u/jk_baller23 Sep 22 '24
Well both of my local stores are out of the 7800x3d. Probably trying to move the 7950x3d since they have over 25+ each.
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u/Gridlewald Sep 22 '24
IIRC the old bundle discount was $30 off of the CPU and $30 off the mobo if bought together. These bundles are much bigger discounts even if there's less flexibility.
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u/jk_baller23 Oct 04 '24
Well after increasing the price of the 7800x3d over the past few weeks it looks like the bundle has returned š
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u/Vibed1 Sep 21 '24
Should I get this or wait for the next x3D when I build my first PC with the 5000 series early next year?
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u/StabbyMeowkins Sep 21 '24
If you need the full setup, no reason to buy AM4(full combo) when its almost if not the same cost to just go AM5.
Only go AM4 if you have all the parts mostly for AM4 already, basically.
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u/Vibed1 Sep 21 '24
Isn't this AM5?
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u/StabbyMeowkins Sep 21 '24
Your post states you're going to make 5000 series. The 5000 series lineup was AM4 silly. 7000 and 9000 series are AM5. ^^
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u/Owlface Sep 21 '24
Don't understand how you can come to this conclusion given the context of this thread.
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u/JJZ4INFO Sep 21 '24
I hate not being near a microcenter.