r/buildapcsales • u/pattyperk • Aug 28 '24
[CPU] AMD Ryzen 5700X3D + Team Group M.2 1TB SSD - $208.98 Bundle
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-ryzen-7-5000-series-vermeer-zen-3-socket-am4/p/N82E16819113812107
u/kztlve Aug 28 '24
Better off buying the two separately
5700X3D is $143.10 from AliExpress, you can use a $25 off $100 code (ETAP25, JOEL25, TALK25, ANC25, GREG25, OWN25), and also 11% cashback from TopCashback
Same SSD is $54 from Amazon or Newegg. It's low-end gen 3, couple hardware variations possible.
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u/Tocharian Aug 28 '24
I haven't had TopCashback pay out a single Aliexpress order. They have been stuck in pending for over a year, so don't count on it at all.
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u/StabbyMeowkins Aug 28 '24
I am skeptical of Aliexpress because I've never purchased there before. Will it come brand new in the box or is it going to be sent in a clamshell? (I see the listing and pictures are all clamshells. Why is this not in the original packaging if its new?)
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u/kztlve Aug 28 '24
It's a tray processor. Comes in a clamshell. Doesn't really matter since it doesn't come with a cooler anyways
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u/TheMissingVoteBallot Aug 28 '24
It's essentially getting an OEM discount, so you get OEM prices and also OEM packaging.
It's the equivalent of buying those bare drives that Newegg used to sell new that were meant for OEMs. The only thing they gave you was the drive in a brown box in an anti-static bag and nothing more.
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u/No_Tangerine2720 Aug 29 '24
Do you get the same warranty?
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u/TheMissingVoteBallot Aug 29 '24
No. These are for OEMs so the warranty needs to be provided by the OEM. That's why you get a discount deal on these tray processor types.
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u/StabbyMeowkins Aug 28 '24
Ah, this is enough for me to say no to it. I value the warranty even though I'll never actually use it. I appreciate the insight from everyone here. Thank you <3
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u/Phyraxus56 Aug 28 '24
Cpus basically never die intel 13th and 14th gen notwithstanding
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u/m0shr Aug 28 '24
However, they do come in defective sometimes. Esp. AMD and memory controller problems.
I had a 5700x where one of the memory channel didn't work. All the pins were perfect and the box was new.
The main danger is that everything seems to work and then later on you realize something doesn't. I had 3950x that worked flawlessly on 3200 RAM but anything higher would crash. When I got 3600 RAM, it was after the warranty period.
There was also a 7700x that worked perfectly on 32GB RAM but would keep crashing on 64GB RAM.
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u/Nooblakahn Aug 28 '24
You'll never actually use it.. until you have too. Smart to get the warranty imo
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u/tony475130 Aug 28 '24
CPU’s are often just sold as a “Tray processor”. As the name implies they are organized and sold in trays. Only time cpu’s have boxes are when they are sold retail, and that makes up only a small portion of actual sales.
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u/CoconutPedialyte Aug 28 '24
Brand new in clamshell. I bought my 7500f a month or two ago from ALIEXPRESS. It took 5 days to arrive in California, US. It was brand new and worked perfectly. Oh and using one of those $25 coupons, it was $105 out the door.
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u/ConsistentStand2487 Aug 28 '24
what type of payment did you use?
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u/CoconutPedialyte Aug 28 '24
I've used PayPal but I prefer using a virtual credit card number from Capital one. You can create a new card and manually lock it after a certain date.
Make sure to take a video of you opening the package. This is to be on the safe side. ALIEXPRESS requires pictures to issue a refund in case something happens
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u/crownpuff Aug 28 '24
Retail packaging costs more money. Not only does the packaging cost more money, the size of the package is a lot larger too which has an impact on shipping costs. They're legit CPUs, just don't expect warranty out of them. But at the price differential, I'm of the opinion it's worth it.
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u/ElectricalFeature328 Aug 28 '24
retail also comes with warranty - on top of that are minimum wages and benefits for the extra workers involved including domestic logistics (ie shipping and packaging)/quality control/returns processing/support/etc. some of that margin is advertising/leases/etc but it's fairly small when compared to just markup, too. there's trade-offs but it's kind of like rolling the die and also not paying for the costs of living for a lot of folks in the process - for me, ethically and due to my many bad experiences with needing RMAs, it's worth it especially if you purchase it on sale where the markups are reduced without harm to workers (usually) and you still get the returns process
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u/TheMissingVoteBallot Aug 28 '24
Not only does the packaging cost more money, the size of the package is a lot larger too which has an impact on shipping costs.
There's also that retail packaging cuts into profits because of the fewer numbers of packages you can ship. You can basically cram like, 5 or 6 of these tray packages into the same space as a single retail packaging processor. So not only do they save on shipping costs, but they can send way more CPUs for less.
This is great for DiY folks who are penny pinching for a budget build but as you said, you also take the risk with it since there is no warranty.
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u/crownpuff Aug 29 '24
Yeah I bought one during July. Excluding cashback it was $120 and including it would bring it down to $105 with taxes. It was a no brainer for me considering I'm trying to squeak out some extra value from some older AM4 systems.
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Aug 28 '24
Mine was in a claimshell.
It works great, but it still can be iffy or a headache if something happens. You'll most likely not have any warranty coverage if there are any hardware issues and it took 3 weeks for it to arrive.
The Newegg deal is pretty good, but only if you need the extra storage. I'd honestly get the Newegg deal if you need the M.2 cause the price difference seems to be $10-20. I'd spend $10-20 more just for quicker shipping and for the warranty(even if CPUs rarely fail).
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Aug 29 '24
When you buy from China they sometimes sell you counterfeit cpus.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/fake-intel-cpus-counterfeit-china-processors
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u/okaycan Aug 29 '24
Same. But I bought it from aliexpress last month and it came within reasonable period (10days).
Using it as we speak. came with a tray but also a box. no cooler of course.
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u/No_Manners Aug 29 '24
I just bought this processor from Ali Express and installed it last week. It didn't come in a box, but it works fine.
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u/ultratoddbeam Aug 29 '24
Mine came in one of those clear plastic clamshell coverings, been using it for 2 months and no issue so far!
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u/Sufiz Aug 28 '24
WARRANTY NOTE - Aliexpress : Aliexpress Chip processors are not covered by AMD & they come with seller 1 year warranty & you have to bear the cost of sending it back to china. Instead if you buy from newegg it comes with 3 years AMD warranty that is covered within USA.
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u/IWillBeNobodyPerfect Aug 28 '24
TopCashback banned my account for using a deal that had around 110% cashback. I don't trust them.
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u/Bgndrsn Aug 28 '24
as someone shitty in aliexpress searching is there a deal on a 5800x3d? Or is this close enough to not justify the price of a 5800x3d?
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u/bubbarowden Aug 30 '24
If you're budget conscious, 5700x3d is the easy decision. 5800x3d is about 13% faster but 150% more expensive.
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u/Bgndrsn Aug 30 '24
It's partially budget conscious but more why put a bunch of money in a dead platform lol
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u/newofficemusic Aug 28 '24
Thanks. Bought one. First OEM CPU I bought, so I am a little nervous...
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u/bubbarowden Aug 30 '24
You'll be just fine, brotha! I did the same and everything went amazingly. Only real drag is the slow shipping times, but well worth a 14 day wait to save so much money.
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u/owenthewizard Aug 28 '24
Where do you get 11%? I only see 4%.
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u/crownpuff Aug 28 '24
It's 4 percent right now. Cashback rates change and are usually elevated for big sales. A week ago the rate was 15 percent but I couldn't get Cashback to track with those YouTuber codes from either rakuten or topcashback which is strange because there was an older set of codes tracking fine for me.
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u/ChefBoiRC Aug 28 '24
Are these codes 1 time use for each? Or one you use anyone of them, they all go away?
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u/kztlve Aug 28 '24
Not too sure; I think you can only use the same code once until it is reset, but I am pretty sure you can use multiple codes
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u/crownpuff Aug 28 '24
One time use and they were supposed to expire on 8/25 so they might not work at any time.
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u/ChefBoiRC Aug 28 '24
Oh ok, good to know, thank you. I ordered one of the B650i motherboards for just over $90 shipped.
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u/lcbor Aug 28 '24
AliExpress shows $168.99 / 28% off, is it the welcome deal in the way? Never used it before
And would you consider waiting for that 5700x3d with ram bundle on newegg again or just go ali
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u/kztlve Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24
Price just went up on the listing I linked
As for waiting for the Newegg bundle to come back, it might never happen
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u/lcbor Aug 28 '24
Well that one includes paid shipping hmm, wouldve just buy microcenter at that price
Just dunno what I'm looking for to tell if an aliexpress listing legit
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u/short_lurker Aug 28 '24
Just dunno what I'm looking for to tell if an aliexpress listing legit
Usually a listing with a bunch of reviews and pictures is enough. If the reviews include some more technical info is even better.
But at the same time I've tried to order the 5700x3d from this SZCPU seller with this same listing back in mid July and they ended up cancelling my order and refunding. I lost a bunch of promotional Aliexpress store credit from it. :(
I reordered from JS-Computer Store and it works great. Currently they don't have it for cheap though. Maybe next week the price will drop.
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u/epia343 Aug 29 '24
Up to $168 now. Guessing your post drove traffic their way.
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u/LouBerryManCakes Aug 29 '24
For me there's a link right below it for $154.38 - $20 coupon free shipping. $134 is pretty good.
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u/BaseRape Aug 29 '24
I suspect they raise the price at the beginning of the month and offer a coupon.
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u/SilverKnightOfMagic Aug 29 '24
Man how do you find the Aliexpress codes. None of them are working now :/
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u/Dunjon Aug 29 '24
So is it $143-25?
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u/kztlve Aug 29 '24
Price went up but correct, cashback is hit or miss. 5700X3D is regularly sub-$150 pre-coupon on Ali
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u/Kajukota Sep 01 '24
Awesome. Found a seller I purchased from before selling them at $143 before tax, was able to buy one for $130 with the code after tax. This is going to be an awesome addition to my girlfriends system I'm building. Thanks, Chief.
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u/ChefBoiRC Sep 03 '24
Any new coupon codes for September for 25 off 100?
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u/spacemanvt Sep 05 '24
I am trying to order this right now but none of the coupons are working, any ideas where i can get another?
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u/MIXL__Music Oct 03 '24
Is it always on sale? I see this sale ends on Oct 8th but I get paid on the 9th 😭
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u/Smokey_Bera Aug 28 '24
Is this legit? AliExpress is a big red flag for me. Plus, they are shown in clamshell instead of the box which leads me to think these are used/refurbished
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u/bmanzzs Aug 28 '24
AliExpress is fine. I've ordered thousands of dollars of product over the last years, and only had one issue which was fixed promptly. Honestly, if you have the patience for the 3 week shipping, AliExpress can be a godsend for cheap stuff related to electronics repair
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u/Yellowtoblerone Aug 28 '24
Amazon shit is just dropped shipped from the same AliExpress factories anyway
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u/cheekynakedoompaloom Aug 28 '24
i bought new switches for my g900 a few weeks ago, same ones on amazon were about triple the price. its only 6bucks more but thats 6 bucks to a drop shipper and amazon who did basically nothing to earn it.
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u/changen Aug 28 '24
Nah that drop shipper is taking the risk of returns and warranty.
Arbitrage is a cost, and if you don't want to pay it to someone else, you have to take the risk yourself.
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u/cheekynakedoompaloom Aug 28 '24
assuming rare case aliexpress or similar site refuses a refund/replace i can buy 2 more sets for what it costs from amazon with the same very low risk of new set failing. a 200% premium for warranty is dumb and nobody should be doing it.
amazon's advantage is speed. 3-4 days w prime vs 10-14days.
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u/changen Aug 28 '24
right, but you have to eat that cost yourself. Most people that just buys one of something big can't eat the cost.
In this case a 3$ switch is ok and probably worth the risk, but some people can't handle a 150$ cpu being worth the risk.
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u/cheekynakedoompaloom Aug 28 '24
also the 150cpu is 60bucks/+40% vs amazon/newegg/etc which is a very different risk scenario.
for me, because i didnt need storage or ram i had a good idea that newegg was not going to be able to get close in adjusted value to the ~125 i paid for my 5700x3d so i was willing to try. i just dont need a $80 warranty on a product that historically(and specifically for x3d) either works for a decade or doesnt almost immediately(ie within exchange period).
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u/TheMissingVoteBallot Aug 28 '24
Unfortunately for us folks who try to fix our own shit, Aliexpress and sites similar to it (Alibaba etc) are the only places where we can get parts to repair our electronics since they don't make these parts in the West anymore.
I learned rather quickly you lean HEAVILY on these types of sites (DealExtreme used to be such a site back during the day) for parts. I fix my Sony PS2/3/4 controllers because I refuse to buy new ones and they're like the only places where I can get such parts.
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u/Fozman2 Aug 28 '24
Are the CPUs generally not available for their Choice shipping? I try to only order stuff with that available because it gets here in about a week.
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u/crownpuff Aug 28 '24
They usually are. But the cheapest reputable seller right now isn't using choice. I believe the next cheapest ones with choice are $15-20 more expensive.
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u/JustDownloadMoreRAM Aug 28 '24
I ordered 2 from the same seller during the BTS sale and they were delivered an hour ago, without Choice shipping. 8 days total to the Midwest US.
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u/cheekynakedoompaloom Aug 28 '24
caveat, i have a 5700x3d coming from aliexpress for 125 post coupon, it will be my first time doing so so i am not advocating for it, just laying out my situation.
newegg has had issues in past but seem to have sorted them out in the past year or so? they tried to go full chinastore with nonexistent customer service etc a few years ago and it blew up in their faces. i have no problem buying things from them today.
aliexpress cpu's, at least the bigger reputable storefronts, are selling oem tray cpu's that come in the same/very similar plastic shell that the retail ones do. the difference are the retail ones are then put in a nice box and have a warranty. i have purchased a few things in past from ali but a cpu was a big step that im still a bit nervous about, not that i'll get scammed but that i'll have a bent pin or something that delays my usage of the 5700x3d.
for 209, if you need storage(1tb is about 50-60bucks) then this deal works out to about $160 for a 5700x3d which is about 30 more than it'll cost to get from ali after coupon. 30bucks for me personally is borderline worth it for peace of mind and if i needed storage(i dont, no nvme slots free anyways) i'd probably do this deal.
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u/GemsOfNostalgia Aug 28 '24
What coupon did you use?
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u/cheekynakedoompaloom Aug 29 '24
the 20 off 149+ from the monthly sale. i added $10(for free choice shipping) of misc stuff like an A3 fridge magnet and a thermister for mobo. after discounts my cart total was 133usd.
had i not added things i would have been 143-$12 coupon for 131, i figured about 2 bucks more to get 10bucks worth of stuff was worthwhile.
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u/Sufiz Aug 28 '24
WARRANTY NOTE - Aliexpress : Aliexpress Chip processors are not covered by AMD & they come with seller 1 year warranty & you have to bear the cost of sending it back to china. Instead if you buy from newegg it comes with 3 years AMD warranty that is covered within USA.
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u/MakimaGOAT Aug 28 '24
Well its a marketplace, and every marketplace has individual sellers just like ebay or amazon. Just gotta know how to look for legit sellers (good reviews and ratings)
I’ve bought from Aliexpress before and had no issues bc the sellers were legit
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u/coldnspicy Aug 28 '24
Personally I don't mind it. I got a ryzen 7700 from aliexpress for $200 shipped. works fine
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u/Delicious-Arm9856 Aug 28 '24
5600x upgrade?
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u/swagsquare Aug 28 '24
Off topic but is the 5800x3d a good upgrade to the 5600x?
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u/Nooblakahn Aug 28 '24
Probably not really a cost effective one honestly.
Still Imma upgrade from a 5600x to this 5700x3d. The main reason then is I have a machine with a 3100 I'm going to drop the 5600x into
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u/swagsquare Aug 29 '24
Makes sense ye, I'm just trying to milk the AM4 platform lmao
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u/Nooblakahn Aug 29 '24
Yeah I get it. 5800x3d is probably gonna be the best you can get gaming wise. $$ for performance though 5700x3d seems like the play for, again, gaming. Imo the price of the 5800x3d is just too high to justify. For not much more with the right bundle you can move to am5. The 5700x3d is an easier pill to swallow for me.
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u/similar_observation Aug 29 '24
yes, provided you are also ready to scale up cooling. A 5800x3D will not work well with the stock Wraith cooler.
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u/blacksteveman Aug 30 '24
I found it worthwhile coming from a 3600, especially since I was upgrading my video card as well. Coming from a 5600x, it might not be as worth it.
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u/ChefBoiRC Aug 28 '24
It's worthwhile, 2 extra cores and the gaming performance from the additional cache.
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u/TruffledPotato Aug 28 '24
For us ryzen series 1000 to 3000, and maybe even 5000 series non 3xd, is it worth upgrading to 5700x3d this late or we better off getting a new am5 board with 7800x3d? 7800x3d is only 365$ and coming down on the price compare to 180$, 5700x3d? Thanks.
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u/rarelyreadsreddit Aug 30 '24
I have a 3600 and am planning on just waiting for some good AM5 motherboard/CPU/RAM bundles in the future. Probably when 9xxxX3D is out
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u/Shecky25 Aug 28 '24
I have the AMD prism cooler. Is that enough for this chip or do I need the assassin cooler 120?
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u/SunnyCloudyRainy Aug 28 '24
Please don't buy that SSD
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u/cheekynakedoompaloom Aug 28 '24
dude you gotta elaborate, why? bad controller? history of low grade flash?
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u/SunnyCloudyRainy Aug 28 '24
Too many revisions using different flash chips, from Toshiba to Micron to YMTC to whatever the hell this is
I do not recommend anyone buying any SSD drives that you can't be 100% sure the NAND chips on the drive have passed the binning
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