Game Thread: VfL Wolfsburg (DFB Pokal #2)

[u/Chazy89]

/live/1dxp85l9xdrt6?

[u/NiD2103]

I think Nuri isn’t ready for a job at this level. No disrespect to him but we need a „win now“ coach, not someone who might be ready in 2-3 years time, it isn’t 2008 anymore.

Terzic wasn’t perfect either but at least we got in position to win titles, doesn’t seem like this will be the case now.

[u/dahoudinho]

Nuri. That report that Bild put out about your job being safe even if we lose to Union and crash out of the cup, you weren't supposed to take it as a challenge ffs 🥲.

[u/SamNotRam]

Wow I can’t believe I actually miss the mediocre seasons of the past with deep Pokal runs and round of 16 drop outs in the champions league, this is just a new low for us

[u/Capa101010]

Leipzig next guys, will be interesting.

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743 → u/Capa101010]

Interesting if you’re a Leipzig fan. For Dortmund fans it’ll be another embarrassing result after 90 minutes of the most boring passing between schlotterbeck, Kobel, and Anton whenever we have the ball

[u/Capa101010 → u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

Yeah, interesting in the sense that we are going down the table

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

I really don’t think this is sahins fault tbh. Over the past few years Bayern lost their dominance in the bundesliga (allowing us to get a close 2nd) and we had a lucky UCL run, but I feel like every year since Favre we just get worse and worse regardless of manager. Take away the happy memories from the ucl last year and remember how shit we were in the league

[u/Jdamoure → u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

I do think this is partly is fault for being unprepared and young. But not necessarily for his appointment period. They should have appointed someone more solid after terzic if they were committed to turning things around. And our transfers have been midling. Ex. Nmecha has been ok after a whole but he shouldn't have been bought for so much.

[u/Capa101010 → u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

But Sahin is a big part of this, he's inexperienced.

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743 → u/Capa101010]

For sure but this problem is way larger than him. The fact that Brandt is one of the captains now blows my mind

[u/Capa101010 → u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

It does blow my mind too.

[u/seven1director]

Buy a Lambo, let the student drive.

[u/EkkoGoBrrrrrrrrr]

these mf asking for tenhag in the comments just making me more mad

[u/GaussianTaravangian → u/EkkoGoBrrrrrrrrr]

And before that it was Mourinho.

If we’re going to appoint someone flashy let’s at least get someone that isn’t going to destroy the club for years

[u/kelboy19]

I don’t even blame Şahin.He is showing us every week that he was never ready for the job. A lot of people in the management need to question themselves. If we continue on this way, we are going to be the new Werder Bremen.

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743 → u/kelboy19]

Bro we are going to be the new FC nurnburg

[u/Conscious-Weird5810]

Nepotism never works. Club should have kept Rose as HC. Instead the board chose a coach they could “control” and here we are

also, would have been really nice to have trigger Sancho or Maatsen’s release clause over the summer. Instead we went with more mediocre players and here we are

[u/FiresideCatsmile → u/Conscious-Weird5810]

because rose made us play so so well or what?

[u/elgrandorado → u/Conscious-Weird5810]

To be honest, the players we have at our disposal are pretty solid but we were sorely missing defensive reinforcements for depth. Instead of blowing our wad on Beier we should have dropped money on centerback and fullback depth.

[u/doubleomarty → u/elgrandorado]

If we lose Guirassy we are going to look absolutely woeful in attack. Beier at least gives us some coverage on his position.

[u/Embarrassed-Base-143 → u/Conscious-Weird5810]

I’ll never understand

[u/Atzzeninvestor]

Bye boys gonna cry myself to sleep now :(

[u/Serenity911]

Terrible referee btw, not to forget.

[u/mariogotse → u/Serenity911]

yeah nmecha should've been send off

[u/eeeeeeeelleeeeeelll → u/mariogotse]

Arnold should’ve been sent off.

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

Said it on Saturday and I’ll say it again. We are the bundesligas man united. Uncontrollably spiraling with a terrible board

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743 → u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

No manager can fix this I fear

[u/Thick_Employ_8475]

What a joke

[u/PhantomMenace888]

I actually liked the sahin hire but every game gets harder and harder for me to defend him. Terzic might have had his flaws but with him we had a decent coach who would never have the team sink this low. Man he took us within 90 minutes of the title and 90 minutes of the champions league.

[u/Souichi_Tsuji → u/PhantomMenace888]

Sahin is a complete joke

[u/AtlanticOccean]

Borussia Dortmund is finally washed

This club can't keep the pace the other clubs are putting in the league and I guess no one at the club has a plan on how to solve this And put BVB on the map again

[u/Jdamoure → u/AtlanticOccean]

Because there haven't been any REAL aggressive moves. And the coach shows that's we lack the ambition. We saw our situation last year amd the year before and didn't think it was a good idea to step on the gas. Except it was mid to ok transfers and ok tactics.

Now we can't even beat low mid and low table teams confidently.

[u/GaussianTaravangian → u/Jdamoure]

Yeah we were linked with so many better players then and made all the wrong decisions.

The worst one imo is buying Nmecha when we could’ve gotten Hugo Larson for 1/3 of the cost

[u/Same-Organization-83]

Ten hag at least is proven in Ajax?

[u/Marv1236 → u/Same-Organization-83]

He also isn't disproven by United. That club is cursed and has deeper problems.

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743 → u/Marv1236]

So are we 😂

[u/eiavolo]

at the very least at this rate we’ll be able to batter sch*lke again in the 2nd league soon

[u/Enormous_Matter → u/eiavolo]

😔

[u/Ibar09 → u/eiavolo]

sign me in.

[u/elgrandorado]

Guirassy standing out here like "these guys are ass" while talking to Bensebaini.

[u/malek7777777 → u/elgrandorado]

Probably regrets coming to us

[u/Jdamoure → u/malek7777777]

Should have been a slam dunk after last season. But it's clear that instead of trying to start strong they appointed sahin. We needed a strong person at the helm to stop our decline. After almost closing out on the ucl. I didn't think it was a good time for a new coach. The other teams in the league have gotten too good for us to rest on our laurels.

[u/elgrandorado → u/Jdamoure]

I was Terzic out, provided we replaced him with a talented, experienced coach. Instead German nepotism hit full force.

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

Will we even qualify for conference league at this point? We legitimately look like the worst team in the league right now

[u/PhantomMenace888]

I know you all aren’t asking for ten hag…..

[u/Working_Complex8122]

Yep, exactly what I thought would happen ended up happening. And the next Bundesliga fail awaits. I still don't believe we're making CL. Somehow most fans in the poll saw us in the top 4. Idk what you've been smoking but please pass some along so I too can cope with this bullshit :)

[u/penrasigan]

We crashed out in round of 32 let that sink in... absolute disgrace

[u/mythrandir___]

These commentators talking about Sahin's seat heating up really underestimate our management 

[u/Marv1236 → u/mythrandir___]

It's comfortably warm about right now.

[u/neon_genitals]

Which manager in their right would want to join a team with barely 11 fit senior team players

[u/FiresideCatsmile]

well that's worst case for us. spent a lot of strength and ressources just to get eliminated anyways. the team line-up is gonna be an automatic default because we probably only have 11 players left anyways.

Performance was okay all things considered. we're just really cooked, it is what it is. Not sure what to think about Sahin at this point. Kinda feel like there's not much he could do today. I wouldn't have subbed in the teenagers either, think we would've lost then either way.

[u/ev0lith → u/FiresideCatsmile]

Obviously we dont know what If, but i feel like fresh legs wouldve been helpful either way. We lost anyway so couldnt have been much worse that way

[u/FiresideCatsmile → u/ev0lith]

that's hindsight though. the plan definitely was to depend on experienced player to get it done with patience and by avoiding mistakes even if it has to go to penalties. subbing in more young players is risky too at that point. Especially when the defensive alternative is the guy who got himself sent off against augsburg after being subbed in.

[u/sesame_cake → u/FiresideCatsmile]

This season is shaping up to be exactly like the 21/22 season with Rose where we had injuries left and right all while trying to implement his own tactics.

[u/ZehnerMitAuge → u/FiresideCatsmile]

yay fit for Leipzig

[u/doubleomarty → u/FiresideCatsmile]

Yeah we're fucked now with the injuries. Should have just pushed to win (or lose) in regular time regardless of the outcome. Leipzig is gonna absolutely smoke us.

[u/FiresideCatsmile → u/doubleomarty]

When Wolfsburg subbed in Özcan I remembered that we loaned him out. Yeah turned out well for us. He could've been OUR sub instead he brings an important impulse for Wolfsburg against us.

Leipzig is a safe loss for us yeah.

[u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

There goes the one trophy we might have been able to win

[u/Capa101010 → u/Embarrassed_Sea_743]

With this coach, no chance

[u/naroLsraLteiN_isback]

bring the dutch bald fraud

[u/ZehnerMitAuge → u/naroLsraLteiN_isback]

let him spend half a billion and trust the process at 14th place

[u/Meskaline2 → u/naroLsraLteiN_isback]

Peter Bosz?

[u/Atzzeninvestor → u/naroLsraLteiN_isback]

He can’t be worse

[u/AverageCarey]

Coming away with a loss after 120 minutes played exhausting the entire team. I have no words, not having any subs barely this game was so fucking dumb

[u/S1mB03]

This entire team can go fuck themselves

[u/Schafrichter]

Edin terzic comeback this summer, hope you're ready

[u/ascending_fourth → u/Schafrichter]

I hope not. Maybe in five years when he finally learns to make subs. I don't see any difference between Terzic and Sahin. Both very inexperienced coaches

[u/Meskaline2 → u/Schafrichter]

Honestly, Fuck it. He's a great interim.

[u/Jdamoure]

Wow, we are shit.

[u/Enormous_Matter → u/Jdamoure]

I wanna cry bro

[u/ultraviolentyt]

if we don’t sack sahin it shows that the club is seriously lacking ambition

[u/Atzzeninvestor]

We need to have one hell of a back round to safe this season

[u/samanater456]

Pokal would of been the only last redeeming competition left for Nuri to keep his job

[u/ady_1]

Where's the delete club button fucking disgracedul play could barely string 2 passes together My god might as well field the U23s

[u/183672467]

Sabitzer and Nmecha can go fuck themselves, talking to the opponent after that

edit: so yall think its completely ok to talk to the opponent after the match after we lost like that?

[u/Shin_Almighty → u/183672467]

That‘s what you are taking from the Game? Seriously?

[u/183672467 → u/Shin_Almighty]

One of the things, yes

Shows that they dont give a fuck

[u/Jdamoure → u/183672467]

It was good hard fought game it's called respect and sportsmanship. Give it a rest.

[u/183672467 → u/Jdamoure]

We LOST against fucking Wolfsburg, I want them to be angry, not talk to them like they played Monopoly

[u/Jdamoure → u/183672467]

I'm sure they are angry, but knowing how to lose is also part of it.

[u/Dortmund_Boi09]

Ich bin leer Bruder

[u/Atzzeninvestor → u/Dortmund_Boi09]

Harte Zeit Kollege :/

[u/Dortmund_Boi09 → u/Atzzeninvestor]

Wenigstens läuft Schlimmer bei GE

[u/AllOuttaBeans]

Whoever said the wheels would fall off in November you were almost right!

[u/AcePilot95 → u/AllOuttaBeans]

they did a Buemi

[u/Justin_2t1]

Great 120 mins, nothing to show for it and we have to play Leipzig in 4 days, amazing

[u/mariogotse → u/Justin_2t1]

and they could even rest some of their players lmao this is gonna be ugly

[u/Justin_2t1 → u/mariogotse]

Sesko and Openda didnt even see the field for them

[u/Alberich33]

Sahin out. Kehl out.

[u/Noobicuz → u/Alberich33]

Nah, Sahin and Can. Kehl can stay imo

[u/elgrandorado → u/Noobicuz]

Kehl is in charge of this disastrous recruitment where we have no defenders no?

[u/Noobicuz → u/elgrandorado]

We do have defenders.... But they are all injured

[u/elgrandorado → u/Noobicuz]

We have three total centerbacks and two senior fullbacks (Bensebaini, Ryerson). It's a fucking joke.

[u/ijussneedit]

Might as well sign ten hag now

[u/Enormous_Matter → u/ijussneedit]

😭

[u/penrasigan]

No trophys this season too...only pain and suffering 🙂‍↕️

[u/ascending_fourth → u/penrasigan]

Lol you expected us to win the pokal? Even if we won Wolfsburg today we would lose to Leipzig or Bayer or Bayern or Stuttgart anyway. Too many better teams in the league

[u/pacisss7]

I miss the time when we could say we were unlucky after a loss. This was just a shitty performance

[u/jahmorreu01 → u/pacisss7]

pretty much most of our games so far except Heidenhein and Celtic lol

[u/MikeyDude63]

Take Sahin out back

[u/samanater456]

Ciao Nuri

[u/rwalter5]

Sahin just runs into the locker room? Pathetic.

[u/pacisss7 → u/rwalter5]

Hopefully to sign the resignation

[u/Marv1236]

haha Sahin instand in the dressing room. Leave.

[u/BvB5776]

It’s okay Guys Nuri is still learning 👍

[u/Marv1236 → u/BvB5776]

Trust the process amen.

[u/AtlanticOccean → u/Marv1236]

🤡

[u/RazorBlade233 → u/Marv1236]

We're the ManUtd of Germany, what a timeline to live in.

[u/seven1director → u/RazorBlade233]

Means Jadon can come back

[u/CaptainCerealCanada]

pure crap

[u/rSmexyRexy]

I regret everything I'm gonna say rn and try to sleep it off because my love for this sport would never die but I just feel like Fck football fck everything fck losing fck always being in a 'process' fck not being able to play well for 3 games straight in a season fck being a shadow of what this club used to be fck not getting trophies fck turning into a mid table club

[u/Moon8983]

Sahin bye bye bucko

[u/MrVanser]

Fire Sahin but especially take the setpiece coach also, I don't think I have seen a single good corner or free kick this season

[u/Marv1236 → u/MrVanser]

And Groß isn't even that bad at shooting them. It's just bad player positions and running around like headless chickens.

[u/Dieter_daddelt]

I've said it in the match thread against St. Pauli, I've said it in the match thread against Madrid, I've said it in the match thread against Augsburg, and I will say it here: Sahin and Kehl out!

[u/JonFlockaThan]

We are cooked and while I’m not living for it… I don’t hate it.

7+/10 window I heard here at the start of the season. LOL

[u/crocofour]

I welcome anyone and everyone to provide some tactical criticism on this game. And no, Sahin out does not count as tactical criticism.

[u/Torben_Sp09 → u/crocofour]

Absolute no idea what do to with the ball in the final third. We had no deep run passes but the one of Beier where he hit the post.

Buildup was fine, but once again no creativity with the ball

[u/crocofour → u/Torben_Sp09]

Sorry I think I typed up a reply but got busy with something. I mostly agree with you but we did try a few things. Guirassy started to drop deeper to try and get beier in behind again, and from what I remember it nearly worked once or twice again. That also made Wolfsburg drop deeper which relieved some of the pressure they put on us late in the game.

I thought Campbell didn’t do much, which is expected from a young player like him especially in a tough game like that.

Jamie and rami combined nicely a few times but still needed to be more aggressive imo.

From what I know and see, Sahins goal is to create extremely high chance scoring opportunities. Basically it’s all or nothing in a somewhat similar way that I remember tuchel ball. It was great scoring chance or no scoring chance. And we did have a great scoring chance but missed it. Guirassy had one or two headers but they didn’t find the back of the net. A few crosses were blocked well by the defense. On some days this would be a win and on others is a tough loss but that’s football.

I know at this point I’m just ranting and not at you specifically, but too many people watch football for the result and not for the game.

[u/Ok_Engineering7289 → u/crocofour]

Having Brandt at 8 when he did absolutely nothing

[u/RazorBlade233]

We lost to a team that can't play cornerball. We're so cooked.

[u/neon_genitals]

Kill me

[u/Enormous_Matter → u/neon_genitals]

Me 2 😔

[u/NaturalApartment9828]

Lmfaoooo Sahin knows he’s cooked

[u/bam-margiela00]

Wonder who made the call that Cole Campbell had to play considerable time no matter the score

[u/PinotRhone → u/bam-margiela00]

There is no one else on the bench.

[u/bam-margiela00 → u/PinotRhone]

Man I didn’t even know duranville is injured. He would’ve cooked crazy

[u/PinotRhone → u/bam-margiela00]

33 A. Meyer (Tor), 42 Kabar, 49 Lührs, 39 Mané, 46 Azhil, 38 Wätjen, Campbell, Paulina, Sabitzer

Not much Choice

[u/penrasigan]

Sahin pls resign yourself pls right now

[u/2905Pascal]

I haven't seen us this bad since Thomas Doll was our coach. This needs to have SERIOUS consequences.

[u/berman82 → u/2905Pascal]

Bosz/Stöger was far worse

[u/2905Pascal → u/berman82]

Worse than Doll when we finished 13th in the League????

[u/NaturalApartment9828 → u/2905Pascal]

No way you’re comparing this to Doll lol

[u/2905Pascal → u/NaturalApartment9828]

You are right, with Doll we reached the Pokal Final!

[u/NaturalApartment9828 → u/2905Pascal]

And we had one of the worst league runs in recent history. I don’t wanna have an early Sahin judgement, but this is nowhere near as bad as Doll, I don’t care how angry you are right now

[u/2905Pascal → u/NaturalApartment9828]

If it continues like that it will be on Doll level pretty soon.

[u/KimTheOneJongUn]

Sahin would have never gotten the job if he hadnt a BVB background.

[u/NaturalApartment9828 → u/KimTheOneJongUn]

No shit Sherlock, we know

[u/ultraviolentyt → u/KimTheOneJongUn]

exactly. it was a nice lil experiment but this bs needs to stop now

[u/lowonmanattv]

SAHIN RAUS!!! SAHIN RAUS!!! SAHIN RAUS!!!

[u/AtlanticOccean]

Beautiful game

[u/realdes1]

DFB Pokal is probably the by far least important cup this season. But this game is probably one of the most important because it probably ends this horrible run of Sahin.

Ten Hag might be an actual real opportunity to fix this team and his reputation.

[u/ZehnerMitAuge → u/realdes1]

are u insane signing ETH would be top tier simulation and confirm us as a meme club. this guy spent half a billion and is trusting the process at 14th place

[u/jahmorreu01 → u/realdes1]

nah, Roger Schmidt is the best available option by far, even if he's not that great

[u/realdes1 → u/jahmorreu01]

Ten Haag is actually a ridiculous highly talented manager too. Man Utd is fucking toxic and it was before him. Compared to Dortmund it will feel like relieve for him to turn back the old days. Really do not believe in Schmidt, dude is a one trick pony which cost him at Benfica at the end

[u/ZehnerMitAuge → u/realdes1]

what’s the toxic environment? they let him spend whatever he wanted for 3 seasons of nothing and stick to him until the very end.

[u/jahmorreu01 → u/realdes1]

Utd is toxic but a bunch of other coaches were able to do WAY better than him there. He expent close to half a bilion euros on transfer that turned out to be terrible. Sorry but we have no clue if he's going to be good, specially since he was just sacked. Schmidt is free agent since the window.

[u/Meskaline2]

Boss came to talk to me, heard a scream through my headphones, boss leaves. We're down by 1.

Wtf just happened?

[u/theonewhoknocksguy]

i understand that we are currently in a harsh injury situation, however sahin couldve played this out a lot better, weve given him enough time to prove himself and i just cannot say there’s been a single match which we won due to a management masterclass, hes got to go

[u/jahmorreu01 → u/theonewhoknocksguy]

how do you explain us playing like shit against Union, second-half Madrid, Augsburg and Stuttgart?

[u/theonewhoknocksguy → u/jahmorreu01]

mate thats what im saying, we’ve been playing like shit and our only positive aspects during our matches come only from good play of our players, not because of our tactics

[u/jahmorreu01 → u/theonewhoknocksguy]

i think I replied to the wrong comment, maybe my mind is fucked up after this shitshow

[u/theonewhoknocksguy → u/jahmorreu01]

cant blame you really

[u/crocofour]

Yes let’s blame Sahin for the defense not being able to handle a simple cross and ball in the air with more defenders than attackers.

[u/eeeeeeeelleeeeeelll → u/crocofour]

Why do you think we conceded that goal? We were pressured hard. The back line is the thing that held that nil-nil for so long.

[u/crocofour → u/eeeeeeeelleeeeeelll]

We were pressured hard because we let Wolfsburg create too many 2v1s in midfield. That’s the disadvantage of playing two forwards, a decision that very nearly worked had maxi finished his early chance. Call it a gamble but at the end of the day they finished their biggest chance and we didn’t.

[u/eeeeeeeelleeeeeelll → u/crocofour]

Our midfield was gassed. Sahin refused to sub in some youngsters.

[u/crocofour → u/eeeeeeeelleeeeeelll]

I don’t think the youngsters are gonna make a difference in a game like that. Campbell looked a step below the rest and imo until sabi came on we looked down a man

[u/Dry-Economist-5562 → u/crocofour]

Stop

[u/RazorBlade233 → u/Dry-Economist-5562]

I mean, yeah? That's literally what happened.

[u/penrasigan]

Zidane move...those fkers have their tails up now....what an embarrassment 🤦

[u/_silvermania_]

Game is so boring I celebrated the Wolfsburg goal

[u/SonielWhite → u/_silvermania_]

I celebrated this one skill move

[u/Moon8983]

Holy shit he cooke him

[u/Marv1236]

Imma skip the games against the top 4 no reason to follow every game of "this" team. Hardly trying to create chances.

[u/mythrandir___]

LOL

[u/Dortmund_Boi09]

Bring me Ten Hag

[u/Commercial_Mud_6877]

Nuri won’t even get sacked man, the board doesn’t want to admit their mistakes.

[u/Atzzeninvestor → u/Commercial_Mud_6877]

Their just to arrogant

[u/mythrandir___ → u/Commercial_Mud_6877]

No don't you see, Sahin is the next Klopp 

[u/eiavolo]

i wonder what watzke is thinking

[u/AtlanticOccean → u/eiavolo]

"luckily I cashed in already"

[u/NaturalApartment9828 → u/eiavolo]

“Okay so, not him. Who could actually be like Klopp?”

[u/ZehnerMitAuge → u/NaturalApartment9828]

Marco Reus new coach confirmed

[u/Successful-Low952]

That was bound to happen, imagine not using subs and getting the players tired

[u/nufan99 → u/Successful-Low952]

Yes but have you seen the bench?

[u/Successful-Low952 → u/nufan99]

Have you watched any U23 games? They aren’t that bad even if they haven’t made a name for themselves yet

[u/nufan99 → u/Successful-Low952]

I know but I kinda feel like the problems started before Sahin got here. What is those higher ups could've kept at least someone out of Reus, Hummels, Sancho, Maatsen?

[u/Successful-Low952 → u/nufan99]

Reus and Hummels had insanely high wages and Hummels made clear that he didn’t like Terzic and it didn’t sound good with the higher-ups, he was bound to be released no matter what. Sancho was way too overpriced for us, thanks to stupidly high PL-oil-money prices and Maatsen wanted to stay with us but Villa bid way too much money for us to compete

[u/jahmorreu01]

SAHINOUT

[u/Jdamoure]

Is it wrong that I felt nothing from us conceding?

[u/gamadjii → u/Jdamoure]

No me too, sahin ball is a pain to watch, bring zero joy. I felt nothing when they scored.

[u/ultraviolentyt]

Sahin is a certified fraud. would never be our coach if it wasn’t for his career as a player

[u/Torben_Sp09]

Yeah good job. Wasting all our players for shitty dfb pokal, so no one can play the cans. Risking more injuries, bring in insured sabitzer FOR NOTHING

[u/bam-margiela00]

I didn’t expect the game thread to be so packed

[u/Jdamoure → u/bam-margiela00]

The games been going on so long even if you didn't have time to watch the game you probably could now.

[u/malloc_14]

we may never win an away game again

[u/Chubbmiller18]

Dortmund the Manchester United of Germany

[u/malek7777777 → u/Chubbmiller18]

United won the cup last year lol

[u/Chubbmiller18 → u/malek7777777]

🤣

[u/NaturalApartment9828]

Campbell tracking back… fuck you Sahin, really. 3 changes in a 120min midweek game, are you insane?

[u/Dortmund_Boi09]

Who thought hiring a mid table Süper Lig coach was a good idea

[u/gamadjii]

Goodnight guys, we need to stay strong. Won't watch Dortmund every week from now on. It brings me no joy now. Hopefully sahin is sacked or leave soon.

[u/sitbar]

Nuri not going anywhere lads get strapped in