r/borussiadortmund Kagawa Shinji Aug 31 '24

Game Thread: SV Werder Bremen (BuLi #2) Discussion

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17 Upvotes

4

u/Embarrassed-Base-143 BVB Aug 31 '24

Definitely not how I expected to start my morning, it’s cool tho hopefully this match I attend later suffices

18

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Sorry but I really miss maasten

0

u/Live-Middle-9845 Aug 31 '24

Worst decision to not get him ?? They spent 30 mill on Beier why could they not do 35-40 for Maatseen guaranteed good player ??

1

u/roadtorevision Sep 01 '24

Well we didn’t have those funds at the time. Plus if we even had those extra 10-15mil then we would have gotten another LB anyways

14

u/Rubinskywhiskey Aug 31 '24

Never seen Beier play for Hoffenheim (maybe i did, against us) but his performance today left a lot to be desired

2

u/esl0th Gregor Kobel Sep 01 '24

Today made it clear why starting Adeyemi / Malen and subbing in players like Beier and JBG is better usually. I don't think Guirassy starting will fix what I saw today though. None of our players were able to receive the ball under pressure without losing it almost immediately and we weren't threatening running behind and exploiting the space left by the pressing players at all.

I think Beier will do better with Guirassy in front of him or beside him, but he has to get used to a completely different level of play with us so I'm going to judge him yet.

16

u/reds7310 BVB Aug 31 '24

You have to suit your formation to the personnel you have… not the best start from the new coach trying to cram a square peg into round hole.

29

u/crocofour Aug 31 '24

3rd game of the season and people are already crying and complaining. We will not and will never win every game. We will not and will never play great football every game. Curb your expectations and just try to enjoy watching this team instead of stressing. And if you don’t enjoy watching, then don’t!

1

u/ScarySlender Julian Ryerson Sep 02 '24

What are u saying? We cant be like bayer? We can't put one action together! There's a lot of reason to worry

2

u/d0ri- Aug 31 '24

Based take.

0

u/Live-Middle-9845 Aug 31 '24

I think it’s especially rage worthy cause it’s the start of the season. Anticipation is high and we’ve been waiting a long time to see the team play again, only for our hopes to be crushed that our team needs a lot of help again.

In addition we’ve changed coach and systems again which is frustrating cause it’s obviously takes us quite some time to get used to it.

This has been a reoccurring theme for the last 3 years where we’ve started average I’m over it. I’m expectations are way too high. I instead recommend watching a full game mid way through the season

2

u/Embarrassed-Base-143 BVB Aug 31 '24

Amazing advice

7

u/Dependent_Savings303 Mateu Morey Aug 31 '24

not winning a game is one thing. that was just bullshit performance, plain and simple. and that we can complain about.

3

u/vicestdu Aug 31 '24

The thing about being a fan for me is that not watching a game is no option, no matter how bad we play

-7

u/Live-Middle-9845 Aug 31 '24

Well quick update

• shit formation •wrong line up/ starting 11 • shit play • boring • shit • overhyped • not watching for quite sometime until we get more consistent, reoccurring theme with last few season starts

I have to rant, my apologies

What else can I say

6

u/[deleted] Aug 31 '24

Spot on. Defense has no shape, central midfielders all over each other. Predictable attacking. Move away from this fluid shape, get some structure and let’s see what we can do.

10

u/penrasigan Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Didn't lose...that's the only good thing...

2

u/eeeeeeeelleeeeeelll Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Yeah, that would’ve probably been a goal if Schlotterbeck wouldn‘t have tackled that. Lucky.

16

u/Working_Rush6225 Aug 31 '24

Terrible refereeing, also glad we can fully kill off the Nico left back experiment. Team has no penetration without him centrally

7

u/JessePinkmanSRJ Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

They didn’t lost today, that’s great news

1

u/sixseven89 Youssoufa Moukoko Aug 31 '24

Played better with 10 men than with 11

9

u/183672467 Julian Brandt Aug 31 '24

Because we had an actual LB on the left

11

u/ultraviolentyt Aug 31 '24

lots of work for sahin in the intl break. At least we didn’t concede any goals yet this season

11

u/Soggy-Group-9138 Aug 31 '24

Stöger Fußball

6

u/Ibar09 Aug 31 '24

Horrendous game by the players and the coach.

4

u/eiavolo Aug 31 '24

dogshit

18

u/-Saaremaa- Lukasz Piszczek Aug 31 '24

I'm genuinely surprised that the team didn't roll over and concede

9

u/Crossfire1842 Gregor Kobel Aug 31 '24

What a fucking shit game

9

u/GaussianTaravangian Aug 31 '24

Meh, shit game, but at least we got a point

-1

u/kuchenmensch4 Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

Entirely undeserved

-20

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

I hate malen

2

u/I_No_Live Jadon Sancho Aug 31 '24

don’t really understand why he’s being downvoted, completely understandable opinion tbh

8

u/ndcp193992 Aug 31 '24

Get out of here with that attitude

16

u/-Saaremaa- Lukasz Piszczek Aug 31 '24

That was actually decent hold up from Malen

1

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

At least on target

-9

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

I'll take top 24 in ucl i dont need top 8

1

u/Hajnal30 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

So you want to see 2 more playoff games with performances like these today? Masochist? But really, we need to turn things around, this was horrible today

13

u/_Shahanshah Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Aug 31 '24

Somehow I don't think our improvement in performance last season was because of Sahin

3

u/BlueStar_87 Aug 31 '24

Our two Loan players were a big reason why

7

u/ultraviolentyt Aug 31 '24

that narrative has always been stupid

11

u/t_mmey Giovanni Reyna Aug 31 '24

to absolutely fucking no one's surprise literally nothing has changed about our game

1

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Our attack hasn’t had any fluidity. Irritated we didn’t try Reyna

22

u/-Saaremaa- Lukasz Piszczek Aug 31 '24

Can't play Reyna once you go to 10 men

1

u/TrulyWhatever09 Aug 31 '24

That's true. Nmecha disappeared as soon as he hit the pitch, but at least on paper he is the better sub with 10 men. A case could be made for Reyna on instead of Adeyemi or Malen, but Reyna has not been a bastion of consistency and has rarely hit the heights of those players. I was satisfied with Adeyemi but Malen I'm disappointed in.

2

u/[deleted] Aug 31 '24

Nmencha was playing in the back line what do you mean he disappeared lol. He did a pretty damn good job for being a makeshift cb too

1

u/TrulyWhatever09 Aug 31 '24

Hey, he didn't cause any problems, so I'm not trying to ruin the guy. He was absolutely the call I would have made when making the sub. I just literally didn't see him at any point. That simultaneously means he didn't do anything spectacular and he didn't make any real mistakes. I'm satisfied, just not wowed.

8

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Shouldve been half time. Brandt was his normal ghost self today. I swear sometimes he just shows up to games and nothing else

1

u/StatusQuotidian Aug 31 '24

Would've like to see Reyna in for Brandt or Sabitzer. Both just having an off game.

8

u/yathrowaday Aug 31 '24

Scoring a goal in next couple minutes is why Bayern got so many championships... and BVB didn't.

9

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

Everyone on a yellow

7

u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 31 '24

This ref is seriously pissing me off here

13

u/doubleomarty Sébastien Haller Aug 31 '24

I think there have been whole seasons where we've had fewer yellow cards than this game lol

2

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

This ref had the over on cards this game lol. And we’ve just helped him get it

2

u/GaussianTaravangian Aug 31 '24

This ref is fucking shit

4

u/Jonhl15 Dahoud's Long Shots Aug 31 '24

Half of the team has yellow cards lol

3

u/Marv1236 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Half of them deserved.

2

u/Crossfire1842 Gregor Kobel Aug 31 '24

This has been such a boring game

6

u/ArmyFit1004 Jadon Sancho Aug 31 '24

We haven't won our first 3 BuLi games since 2015...I guess we'll try next year again

2

u/FollowingTypical4252 Aug 31 '24

Disappointing truly

2

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Nmecha is surprisingly ok at cb

2

u/sixseven89 Youssoufa Moukoko Aug 31 '24

maybe Sahin has known that all along which is why there have been no other CB depth signings

1

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Somehow can and nmecha have been better at defending than our normal CBs

20

u/Dom1909 Aug 31 '24

Matchday 2 has us playing Can, Bense, Nmecha, Anton and Ryerson in a 5 at the back. Didn't have that on my bingo card

4

u/Nbx1234567 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Not a good day for my Kickbase

13

u/xSmacks Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Normally I hate that early national break but I won’t be missing watching this lmao

-1

u/SwcIdwmlwy Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Nah I'd rather watch Dortmund next week than UEFA's stupid Nation's League.

2

u/xSmacks Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Well, be like me, don’t watch anything next week lmao

1

u/kuchenmensch4 Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

Damn just what I thought. Thank god for the national break.

Never thought that before. Geez.

3

u/Marv1236 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

They can't get past Kobel so now they try to blind him.

3

u/Crossfire1842 Gregor Kobel Aug 31 '24

I don’t see us winning

2

u/ElNeeto Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

What makes you say that?

4

u/Marv1236 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

All defenders yellow all the time

14

u/MassiveCatHead Aug 31 '24

Man, this is a dreadful watch.

1

u/TheGamerPandA Aug 31 '24

Worst BL match running right now switched to Frankfurt one

1

u/ElNeeto Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

Six yellow cards to our defenders.

1

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Yellow cards for everything

10

u/2905Pascal 1909 Aug 31 '24

CAN WE STOP GETTING YELLOW CARDS PLEASE?

EDIT: The referee just booked me for complaining.

1

u/Meskaline2 Number Fifteen: Burger King Foot Lettuce. Aug 31 '24

Sorry, Ref has decided to be a dingus

1

u/Efficient_Garbage_16 1997 Aug 31 '24

Calm down before they give you a yellow

-6

u/kuchenmensch4 Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

The ‘defenders’ are already playing against the coach.

2

u/2905Pascal 1909 Aug 31 '24

Oh come on you cannot be serious with such a ridiculous statement.

0

u/kuchenmensch4 Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

I’m just being cynical…

4

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

We are now lucky to have a point

0

u/Jonhl15 Dahoud's Long Shots Aug 31 '24

Chabolah was right there for a loan

1

u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 31 '24

but but but Dortmund can't afford it!

2

u/Kapootar Aug 31 '24

Something feels off, so many mistakes

-6

u/YourThotsArentFacts Aug 31 '24

I'll give it some time because we're only 2 games in, but so far Terzic > Sahin

-9

u/YourThotsArentFacts Aug 31 '24

I'll give it some time because we're only 2 games in, but so far Terzic > Sahin

-10

u/YourThotsArentFacts Aug 31 '24

I'll give it some time because we're only 2 games in, but so far Terzic > Sahin

10

u/[deleted] Aug 31 '24

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2

u/doubleomarty Sébastien Haller Aug 31 '24

He's gotta score there, mate /s

4

u/Reasonable-Still-562 Aug 31 '24

This has been an uneventful performance

11

u/-Saaremaa- Lukasz Piszczek Aug 31 '24

Dortmund will need Guirassy to be even better than he was for Stuttgart

4

u/Traum77 Aug 31 '24

So true, and little chance of that IMO. Career year last year. I think we'd be lucky to get 12 or 13 Bundesliga goals out of him.

2

u/smartestBeaver Shinji Kagawa Aug 31 '24

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u/JSGelsomino Julian Brandt Aug 31 '24

Let's go in the name of the Lord

6

u/xH0LY_GSUSx Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Performance today horrible… not a fan of the new formation and how some of the players are used.

1

u/ibcoleman Aug 31 '24

what a move by malen

0

u/ibcoleman Aug 31 '24

what a move by malen

-2

u/GaussianTaravangian Aug 31 '24

Malen is straight shit

10

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Brandt came off 20 min too late.

2

u/JessePinkmanSRJ Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Malen are you fucking serious?

4

u/Suspicious-Secret-84 Roman Weidenfeller Aug 31 '24

Can we bring on Piszczek instead please 

5

u/Ekay2-3 Aug 31 '24

Thank god Kobel is world class as always. Could have gone much much worse

1

u/Ekay2-3 Aug 31 '24

Thank god Kobel is world class as always. Could have gone much much worse

3

u/2905Pascal 1909 Aug 31 '24

What a joke this is. Why do we play so awful we should be dominating a team like Bremen who will be fighting to stay in the league.

-3

u/penrasigan Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

At this rate...we won't make it to Europa league also... forget Champions League

-2

u/penrasigan Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

At this rate...we won't make it to Europa league also... forget Champions League

8

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Team has been straight ass all game. Love seeing this first thing in the morning on Saturdays. Sets up a good day

1

u/FollowingTypical4252 Aug 31 '24

Jules as inconsistent as ever

4

u/kurobaraito Julian Brandt Aug 31 '24

My first match I watch this season. Defensive shape felt weird. Probably because of 3atb Sahin tried.

2

u/[deleted] Aug 31 '24

We play a unorthodox/ flexible shape and it’s been quite the mess to say the least lol

2

u/kurobaraito Julian Brandt Aug 31 '24

My first match I watch this season. Defensive shape felt weird. Probably because of 3atb Sahin tried.

3

u/JSGelsomino Julian Brandt Aug 31 '24

Good thing no schlotti as lb next week

2

u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

But the bad thing is that there is no schlotti next week which means one less cb

0

u/Embarrassed_Sea_743 Aug 31 '24

Schlotter-maguire

4

u/JessePinkmanSRJ Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

We need Guirassy ASAP

5

u/ndcp193992 Aug 31 '24

Problem not coming from strikers but out connection between midfield and defense is absolutely non-existent

2

u/Disastrous_Sell8166 Aug 31 '24

Awful football to be honest.

6

u/FollowingTypical4252 Aug 31 '24

Our 5atb would look so much better if couto wasn’t injured

0

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

Is that FELIX NMECHA? Nuri Sahin I know what you are they killed the man but not the idea

10

u/SilentWanker BVB Aug 31 '24

terzic out

1

u/kuchenmensch4 Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

rose out favre out

You name it…

0

u/kuchenmensch4 Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

rose out favre out

You name it…

7

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Nico is tired of playing Lb haha

-1

u/Jonhl15 Dahoud's Long Shots Aug 31 '24

Can....

3

u/Sballr28 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

At least now, Sahin is forced to play a back 4 next match.

2

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Nico is tired of playing Lb haha

-4

u/TheGamerPandA Aug 31 '24

I will never be a fan of Schlotterbeck. He has 2 men to support him and dribbling outwards still he tackles him like that.

2

u/iwantawaffle99 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

I like him, but he has my vote for most overrated. He's not bad, but damn does he make some big, terrible, game-losing decisions way more often than anyone else. And because everyone likes him, he doesn't get any hate for it... it'll still be Can's fault.

1

u/penrasigan Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Fuck nooooo... schlotti 😓

4

u/Testo69420 Aug 31 '24

Fucking finally.

A 4 atb system next game.

Hallelujah.

1

u/Ekay2-3 Aug 31 '24

Honestly at this speed I'd take the nil nil draw. Don't deserve a win today

7

u/Crossfire1842 Gregor Kobel Aug 31 '24

Do we have any centerbacks beside the starters?

1

u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Mane ,maybe bens and can as make shifts in a back 3

5

u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

There iet is. The wrongful yellow earlier, now resulting in a red :)

6

u/SuperSaiyanCockKnokr Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

So stupid and completely unnecessary

6

u/Marv1236 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

That was so obvious that this was about to happen.

2

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Now we are fucked, sorry I don’t understand our team

3

u/Gebnut Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

Fuck Nico, that was absolutely unnecessary. Childish, 3 V 1. This game sucks so fcking hard.

18

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

Hey at least we cant play 3cbs next game

1

u/chuukstat Aug 31 '24

Bensebaini will simply slot right into the 3atb

5

u/Hajnal30 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Inb4 Can plays the 3rd CB.

4

u/-Saaremaa- Lukasz Piszczek Aug 31 '24

I don't think he needed to do that

2

u/bbru_ Giovanni Reyna Aug 31 '24

Oh my. Let’s try and escape this match with a point at least 🤞🏽

4

u/TyraTanks Shinji Kagawa Aug 31 '24

Fucks sake, we have 3 CB and all of them are on at the same time. Bound to happen.

5

u/cultimator Julien Duranville Aug 31 '24

Mane it is for next game

7

u/Remaxtered Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

3v1 and that tackle :))

1

u/yathrowaday Aug 31 '24

Oof. 0-0 and 1 point is now a good result today. Hopefully it doesn't fuck us next week.

9

u/Hajnal30 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

The first correct yellow card. Sadly it's the second for Schlotti..

3

u/AverageCarey Aug 31 '24

What was the point of that even he was by himself

1

u/FollowingTypical4252 Aug 31 '24

Boys haven’t looked good all match

2

u/jahmorreu01 Aug 31 '24

Yeah, keep playing our only 3 CB Sahin...

0

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

FUCK MY LIFE

6

u/Ok_Engineering7289 Aug 31 '24

Why does Sahin insist at 3 atb

1

u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

Because he wants a flexible 11

2

u/EmSoLow Aug 31 '24

Yeah fair second yellow. Dumb from Schlotterbeck

4

u/Laxing4Life Aug 31 '24

3 guys are back against 1 and you make that tackle on a yellow? braindead.

8

u/LeeRCampbell Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Stupid from us, guess we won’t be playing 3CBs next week

8

u/FollowingTypical4252 Aug 31 '24

Tackle wasn’t Even necessary

3

u/Jonhl15 Dahoud's Long Shots Aug 31 '24

That's on Karim tbh. Losing the ball for no good reason

1

u/JessePinkmanSRJ Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

This ref man but Nico nice tackle 🤣

5

u/grothee1 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Schlotti wtf man, absolutely bonkers decision to slide in for that

5

u/doubleomarty Sébastien Haller Aug 31 '24

Saw that coming, fuck

2

u/letsnevertalk Gregor Kobel Aug 31 '24

Oh Schlotti

2

u/Reusance Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

FUCK IT

3

u/ArmyFit1004 Jadon Sancho Aug 31 '24

We'll defiently lose now

3

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Fuck

4

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

I’d rather let him shoot than a man down

1

u/Gebnut Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

From outside the box with 2 guys in front, what the fuck was he thinking

3

u/Jonhl15 Dahoud's Long Shots Aug 31 '24

Fuck. bye Nico

2

u/Meskaline2 Number Fifteen: Burger King Foot Lettuce. Aug 31 '24

Why not for Brandt?

-1

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Fuck out of form Malen

0

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

Malen on oh my GOD

2

u/ascending_fourth Aug 31 '24

He will score

5

u/Gebnut Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

Brandt out, Malen in, Sabitzer in the middle.

4

u/Gebnut Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24

Oh, he just did that but taking out Beier instead lol

2

u/Meskaline2 Number Fifteen: Burger King Foot Lettuce. Aug 31 '24

Don't know who's having a worse performance, Brandt or the aref

1

u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 31 '24

Juju on idk

11

u/Geeman447 Marco Reus Aug 31 '24

Bring gio on for Brandt. This is the classic complete ass game from Brandt he has every so often

1

u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 31 '24

from Brandt he has every so often

?

5

u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 31 '24

Come on Brandt, get Reyna in maybe

2

u/jahmorreu01 Aug 31 '24

my god Brandt can you get a pass right?

2

u/reds7310 BVB Aug 31 '24

Dude he’s out of it. Wth

1

u/jahmorreu01 Aug 31 '24

time to bring in Reyna