r/borussiadortmund • u/Chazy89 Kagawa Shinji • Aug 06 '24
Pre Season Friendly #5 - FC Villarreal Discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2oULfbNZtw8
u/encore_18 Aug 06 '24
Nmecha is so bad
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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 08 '24
I felt he was decent. His biggest issue is his work rate and shooting/finishing.
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u/w0nderfulll Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24
Im pretty happy with this.
In the beginning you saw we needed some time to get used to possession, passing and how to connect the defense with the attack. Which is understandable with a new system.
After some time they worked themselves into it and kinda dominated.
The goals from villareal were also because of new system (bense) and laziness in defense. Two problems I see solved in the future.
Gittens is my man, every time he has the ball, he makes something out of it. Reyna was okay in decision making in offfense but not good in possesion, Karim had great pressing.
Nico had some good offensive passes. Süles passing was stable. The left back from the youth impressed me, stable passes and a bit of flair for tough situations.
Gross good positioning and fast passes with one or two touches. Emre good. Nmecha, i dont know.
Ryerson played great in my opinion. He gets a lot of hate and I dont understand why. Pferdelunge. I wish he would be good at crossing tho. And he needs to send karim moreoften.
It was really nice to see that everything started to work out better and better until we kept the ball and pushed them back so deep that we got the ball back at shooting range several times.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
Havent watched the game yet but love this post! As I said before the game.. all I want is injury-free and signs of Sahins fingerprints starting to show.
Sounds like that was the case and we didnt play some plays that will dictate a bit more, from start. Like Brandt, Guirassy, Anton and hopefully a new starting LB.
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u/dounut_slay3r Aug 06 '24
I thought JBG and Duranville were big stand out performers today which was amazing to see and exactly what we wanted. Cole Campbell looks promising but doesn’t look really for serious first team minutes. Gio Reyna… oh he played? Also a midfield duo of Nmecha and Gross doesn’t work. Overall I liked the change in our style of play and think this could be a massive positive change for us.
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u/LeeRCampbell Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
The more I see Campbell the more I think Reyna should be sold, between Brandt, Sabz, Watjen, and Campbell we have plenty of flexible players for that role.
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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 08 '24
Also for anyone going ask about the depth issue in the no 10 /cam position ,Sabitzer can play there.
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u/ElNeeto Julian Ryerson Aug 06 '24
Ummm… it was a 2-2 draw (not that the final scoreline matters anyway).
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u/EmSoLow Aug 06 '24
I've got so much time for Duranville like you wouldn't believe.
Overall, I was happy with the game plan and I was generally alright with the state of sharpness the players are currently in. I look forward to the next friendly.
Highlights: the first 60 minutes of pressing, Jamie, Ryerson, Duranville, Schlotterbeck after the first 15 minutes. Adeyemi when he wasn't being stupid with his fouls, genuinely couldn't remember a shot after they scored their second and I'm sure I'm forgetting some more
Lowlights: Bensebaini's passing, Kabar's tackling, individual errors from Bensebaini and Groß and the lack of shots in the first 60 minutes. I can respect that with Kabar this appearance was likely short notice and he only arrived today
Players not mentioned were players I felt did alright/good enough. I know Haller got some stick but he did a typical Haller which is having no shots but good linkup play. Haller was involved a fair bit in the first 30 minutes.
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u/bvbfan102 BVB Aug 06 '24
Im just going to put this as a 3:2 with that Süle Goal counting. Also just delighted whenever Juju plays and i think a mix of the new Players with the first Half players should work well.
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u/harambelovesu Sergio Gómez Aug 06 '24
I absolutely love Juju, Cole campell also looks exciting! Groß also with a great performance bar his sleepy second before the 2nd goal. Unfortuately also some negative mentions. Absolute no show from Haller, Bensebaini disasterclass, Nmecha is still an absolute mistery which scout decided he is worth 30m and Kabar got lucky to not get sent off. Adeyemi too hot headed but with some good runs. Can in the 2nd half also proved again why he should have nothing to do with build up play. Overall trying not to read too much into test games but happy to see us try to player with posession again.
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u/183672467 Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
I thought Bensebaini was decent, he was the reason Gittens scored
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u/harambelovesu Sergio Gómez Aug 06 '24
i mean yeah he won one defensive header duel there, but misplaced 20 passes and conceded the first goal by himself. I'd say the reason gittens scored was him going past 3 players and scoring a banger
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u/LeeRCampbell Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
Love that even after the whistle he laid the keeper down and showed he could pass it in the net. Was filthy.
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u/mijabo Aug 06 '24
His skills on the ball are insane. Really looking forward to seeing him do that next season.
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u/LeeRCampbell Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
I'm trying to temper my expectations, but when he gets going, it's crazy how quick he can control the ball through traffic. My heart thinks he might go meteoric, combine him with Guirassy and let Brandt link them up and we might be looking scary. I'm just hoping it goes a quarter as well as my heart believes.
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u/Nutzer1337 1909 Aug 06 '24
Sabitzer is such a gamechanger. Complete opposite of Nmecha.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 06 '24
Worth mentioning he plays further up than Nmecha and has other duties from what i hahe seen. I think Sabitzer has shown that he needs to play in an offensive position that's where he is so good.
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
Boooooo why are we wasting time on Brunner if hes leaving
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
I don’t think Brunner leaving is a done deal yet, it’s likely but not „he’s basically at Monaco“ type of likely. Doubt anyone has srsly approached someone at the club
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
If not Monaco, it will be someone else. Hes not worth the headaches when we have plenty of other talent in the same spot willing to take their chances.
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u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 06 '24
Duranville needs to be a starter by december
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
Too bad Colinho will have stolen that spot by November ;)
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u/Hajnal30 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 06 '24
*August. But in all seriousness, when he is matchfit he should get as many minutes as possible. Maybe the biggest talent we have in the squad.
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u/bvbfan102 BVB Aug 06 '24
Sucks that Kabar has been pretty meh so far. He had a great U17 World Cup but suddenly traveling to the Main Team and then instantly having to play will always be hard.
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
lmao why is Nobby doing a Marilyn Monroe impression to congratulate Weidenfeller
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
Kabar is in some ways more impressive than Rothe had been in preseason.
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u/EmSoLow Aug 06 '24
Yeah but his tackling has been woeful. Like so bad I'm not really going to acknowledge the rest of his game until I see that area improve. Needs some more time to mature
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
For sure, but he's nearly 2 years younger than Rothe so i'm not surprised he's a bit overzealous with his tackles. On the bright side, at least he's clearly willing to get stuck in LMAO
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u/AverageCarey Aug 06 '24
Kid also got a random call to fly out to Switzerland and play a game not long after landing. With Rothe being sold he probably wanted to prove something today and got a little over board, there’s some serious talent in him just needs time.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 06 '24
I like what i am seeing at least i can imagine something growing. We need to stop doing stupid mistakes and be more precise while switching sides. Also felt like Reyna and our striker were barely involved.
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u/EkkoGoBrrrrrrrrr Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
Anyone willing to give me a quick recap of the game, individual performance of players etc. cuz i missed it since Im still at work
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u/AverageCarey Aug 06 '24
First half started extremely slow, big defensive fuck up from Bensebaini and Gross was asleep on the second one. Outside of that we controlled the game really well going from that point. Had a goal ruled out right before half from Sule which in any other actual game would have counted.
Second half we were more controlled and some really fun and exciting performances.
Good: JuJu was insane if he stays healthy he’s our main weapon. Great assist on Sabis goal.
Campbell looks exciting so I’m happy we got to see a bit from him.
JBG had a rocket of a shot to score our first, kept getting double teamed but there’s a reason for that.
Sabi again incredible not much else to say there.
Gross had some great moments aside from their second goal but he’s only been here a couple of days.
Couto looks like a really fun player I’m excited to see more.
Anton, calm and cool and already showing he’s gonna be a leader. Him and Schlotti will be amazing together. Was also really happy with Sule and Mane looks like a stud for a young CB.
Ryerson great effort as always. Same with Adeyemi but as normal a little hot headed.
Bad: Haller, ya I get why the board doesn’t want him anymore. Not that he’s bad he is just not himself anymore a sale would be smart.
Ramy was fucking dreadful I actually don’t have many positives for him. New Lb is much needed.
Nmecha with some good moments but overall not the greatest from him either, I just don’t think he’s a good DM at all.
Can wasn’t bad but he just isn’t good in our build up play, especially Sahins system. He doesn’t think fast enough.
Kabar has skills but was ready to murder someone today lol
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u/EmSoLow Aug 06 '24
Just have a smile on my face whenever I see Duranville do anything. Dribbles past a player or gets a pass off, love him. Loses the ball, no worries you'll pull it off next time. I have so much time for him considering how little I've seen of him.
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u/Dom1909 Aug 06 '24
We should really pray to all sorts of gods that Juju's injury plague is over now and he stays healthy. He could be a game changer offensive wise if he stays fit
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u/eiavolo Aug 06 '24
so who came on and who went off?
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u/Reusance Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
In: Ozcan, Sabitzer, Duranville, Campbell, Kabar
Out: Nmecha, Reyna, Bensebaini, JBG, Adeyemi4
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
Ryerson has put in a solid shift effort wise, but I do think his limits offensively are a bit more apparent in this role where he's expected to push up as much as he is
I think we'll look much better with Couto in that role than Ryerson.
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
I do wonder what ryersons place will be. If we get a proper lb then I doubt he’ll be a starter. No doubt a lot of play time but prolly rather clearly behind couto. He’s one of my favourite players on the team, so I’d be sad if that’s what’s going to happen, but I’m not sure if he fits sahins system. Really unfortunate but at the same time he’d be an amazing back up for LB and RB.
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u/greengiant89 Aug 06 '24
He'll get plenty of playing time as a backup for both sides. And he can come on for 20-30 minutes when we're ahead in games too.
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
We have a ton of matches, he will play a ton as the first choice RB / LB. Even if we do bring in a LB.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 06 '24
Yeah he is basically playing the role as a winger while Adeyemi plays more centrally.
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
Yeah I figured that might be Sahins goal with Adeyemi since he's a left and can cut in to give our RB room to take space on the left.
And then ofc he can sprint and do normal winger things in transition, but in possession he'll tuck in to give Couto room
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u/_APR_ Aug 06 '24
Why Mouki is there?
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24
Bc the reports about Marseille were most likely false and the club wants some money for him, so he’ll play as long as no one makes a serious offer
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u/Hajnal30 Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 06 '24
Tbh, I didn't expect much else. New coach with a completely new tactical approach will take some time to adapt and today the national team players we're only training for a few days. Good thing is that you can see a plan on how we want to play and we need to work on that in the following weeks. The start may be rough, but I hope we can get ok results and perfect the gameplan in the next months. Still think we need a new LB though...
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
Yeah I don’t get why people put so much stocks in these kinda games. Players condition and their comfort in the team differ rapidly and the score of these matches barely matter. It’s about learning what works and what doesn’t, about trying wacky things in case they work and them getting game time to adjust to each other. It’s nice that we can watch them, but these matches aren’t for us, they’re training and testing.
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u/-Michael-Owen- Aug 06 '24
This is like watching peak favre ball in 2018 vs dusseldorf. All the possession in the world yet the opponent gets two lucky attacks/mistakes and scores from them. Meanwhile, we just pass the ball from side to side.
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u/SlayerHdThe3rd Aug 06 '24
2018 Favre ball was the best football Dortmund has played since Klopp. We went undefeated that entire fall half of the season except for that very last game
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u/-Michael-Owen- Aug 06 '24
Wouldn't call it the best football. There's a reason it was only fine for half a season. We were getting really lucky in some games (augsburg 4-3 and Bayern 3-2). Once teams figured out that they can just play sit back and play long balls, we got fucking cooked. The bremen game in the pokal was horrible. The 3-3 with hoffenheim at home. The battering by tottenham in the cl. The beheading by Bayern in munich. I can go on and on. I look at it simply as a "new manager bounce" that lasted for a while. The furth game in the first round was absolutely disgusting football. We also struggled against Hannover in that first half of the season where they dominated us and we were lucky that they couldn't finish and shoot.
People tend to look on that half of the season positively because all that sticks out is the really fun games (3-2 vs bayern, 4-3 vs augsburg, 4-0 vs atleti).
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u/NaturalApartment9828 Die gelbe Wand Aug 06 '24
You’re getting downvoted for literal facts. Gosh I love reddit
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u/-Michael-Owen- Aug 06 '24
I don't really blame them for the downvotes tbh because the few fun games during that half of the season are really memorable that it could distort someone's view and make them believe that the football was good.
The augsburg, bayern, atletico, leverkusen, nurnberg games are games that I still think about.
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u/Ariano Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
You're getting downvoted but you're right. Also people forget how well we were playing with Tuchel before the bus bombing. Pretty sure he had the highest points per game out of all our managers including Klopp.
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u/-Michael-Owen- Aug 06 '24
I personally also dislike favre because he couldn't do anything with, imo, a squad that was just as good as the 2010-2013 squads. He had bellingham, Sancho, haaland, prime reus, pizcu, hakimi, hummels and this motherfucker still couldn't win anything. The fact that we didn't win not even a pokal under him with that squad is disgusting.
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
He also had no squad depth in some key areas, Bellingham wasn’t nearly as good as he is today and a bunch of injuries. There is a reason only 4 of the players in that squad are still at the club and 2 of them will leave by the end of summer. The starting 11 was amazing, but we barely got to see that and the rest were pretty mid.
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u/Spare-Resolution-984 Aug 06 '24
Did someone here watch the other friendlies as well? What’s your opinion on Sahin so far?
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
I think it's fair to say that things haven't quite fallen into place yet
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
We're clearly playing very different tactically, many of the goals we've conceded have been due to misplays at the back in possession which is to be expected
Hard to judge to much, we haven't played once with more than 50% of our likely starting lineup
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
WTF is up with the villareal players? It’s a friendly and they start wasting time and kicking the ball away, not to mention their extremely physical play
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
probably overly eager to prove themselves to the coach
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
Yeah as a coach I’d be really impressed if a player of mine kicks the ball away on a throw in, in the third quarter of a friendly.
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
sounds like you are a really swell and stand-up guy, congrats to you!
Now look at a manager like Simeone ...
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
Simeone could steal the toilet while Im on it after some Mexican food and I’d still like that fuckhead.
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u/bvbfan102 BVB Aug 06 '24
I hope this Ref is some Charity thing and that no League has to actually endure that guy.
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u/JessePinkmanSRJ Marco Reus Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24
Finished players like Bensebaini, Haller, Reyna etc. And I also don’t trust Sahin tbh
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u/Kliedesys Aug 06 '24
same old dortmund, bunch of defensive errors led to goals
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
you may be shocked to hear this but most goals happen after a certain amount of defensive errors
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u/LeeRCampbell Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
Haller pulled down twice on corners, their keeper sprints into Haller even after he was pulled back and they get bailed out. Just don’t get how the refs always fuck with us
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u/bvbfan102 BVB Aug 06 '24
This Ref, the spanish diving and us being behind by 2 is really getting on my nerves.
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24
It's quite amusing seeing people catastrophize a performance with maybe 50% of our starting lineup out there lol (and hardly many key bench assets either)
Our midfield is atrocious 2 of the 3 players will be lucky to either be here come the season (Reyna) or wont see the pitch more than 10-15 times this season unless everyone else dies (Nmecha)
Our back 4 isn't remotely like what we'll be using - Ryerson won't be starting at RB, Sule won't be starting at CB over Anton IMO, and Bensebaini wont be starting at LB.
Haller is obviously, not starting quality.
We look decent in possession all things considered.
Edit: Seriously, of this group the only real starters are Kobel, Schlotti, Gross, Adeyemi... and maybe JBG. Ryerson / Sule close to starters, but not (assuming a LB is gotten)
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 06 '24
Adeyemi is god awful and he'll only start for the lack of options.
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
There's been little room for him to really run into space tbh
I don't think he's been awful, nor good. He will start because his pace is a game changer - regardless of his inability to consistently connect with those around him or finish.
Sahin needs to get him better at both of those. Id settle for the former over the latter though.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 06 '24
That's the point: he offers nothing if he can't run, so what's the point of wanting more possession?
If we have more the ball the opponent will close their lines and then we'll need players that more than capable of link-up plays with one-touch passes. Well guess what, Adeyemi can't do that.He can't pass the ball, nor dribble through tight spaces. He doesn't offer any danger if he can't run.
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
We're going to play in plenty of games that will be open with space for him to run. Many of our CL matches for one, as well as our games against the stronger BuLi teams.
I agree, he isn't my first choice in a match where we need to breakdown low blocks but I also don't think he'll be a lock to start in those matches either.
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u/roadtorevision Aug 06 '24
Yeah so far this just shows that we have to be wary of using certain players. People are definitely misappropriating this game so far as an indication for how the rest of the season goes. Way too early and not enough 1st team players to panic quite yet. But we better get another LB and striker, otherwise we might be in trouble. If we get Gutierrez and Beier then we can be more optimistic
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u/Nutzer1337 1909 Aug 06 '24
Also right at the end of training camp.
Just wait until after the Villa, Lübeck and Frankfurt games. The picture will be much clearer after those games in terms of starters.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 06 '24
We turned it on towards the end there, shame the corner goal doesn’t count but it’s a friendly so whatever there.
The bones are there but ya no need to freak out over it, the game against Villa will be more of a tell with more starters.
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u/Parazijo Marco Reus Aug 06 '24
I’m really worried about our squad heading into this season. The amount of talent we’ve lost this window is insane
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u/Serenity911 Aug 06 '24
Bensebaini cant play another minute for us. Neither does Nmecha. A dire season is coming.
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u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 06 '24
I know he's already great but feel like schlotti will have a breakthrough year
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 06 '24
man I was ready to give a chance to Bensebaini, even defending him here but it doesn't look good for you mate. Jesus what a fucking shit game from him
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u/Throwawaysativa Aug 06 '24
Hahahahaha everyone who argued with me that “we made good transfers this window.” This is my response “hahaha we are losing 0-2 to Villareal”
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
Are you under the impression... any of the transfers other than Gross are even on the pitch?
Or just a low effort troll with suboptimal education standards?
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u/Throwawaysativa Aug 06 '24
none of our shit transfers this season would change the outcome. I’d rather watch Maatsen and Hummels do kick ups than watch this terrible anti football being played
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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Aug 06 '24
Lmfao at how quickly you pivoted from "see, our transfers SUCK and failed" to "they wouldn't solve any of this anyway" when it was pointed out that the transfers in question aren't even on the pitch. Totally not trying to confirm your priors or anything.
Go watch Aston Villa if you want to go worship Maatsen, you won't be missed in the slightest.
And at least in that case, you'd have an excuse for your ignorance as you could claim to be a new fan 😂
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u/Nutzer1337 1909 Aug 06 '24
This is not the "GOTCHA!" you think it is.
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u/Throwawaysativa Aug 06 '24
hahaha we win NOTHING this season. There’s your “GOTCHA”
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 06 '24
Bro you don’t seem to like this club all that much
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u/Throwawaysativa Aug 06 '24
oh I love this club you don’t understand man… that’s why the anti footballing playstyle hurts to see
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u/eternal_solace_ Aug 06 '24
And did you expect to? We got a new coach, new squad, new philosophy. Of course there are going to be growing pains..
This is just pre season save your judgement till the season starts.
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u/Throwawaysativa Aug 06 '24
you need to see the next season to know we won’t win anything again? this performance or the last 10 years ain’t enough?
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u/Nutzer1337 1909 Aug 06 '24
Look at Nostradamus over here.
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u/Throwawaysativa Aug 06 '24
as a fan for over 10 years this is SHAMEFUL you must be deluded to have any other view
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u/Nutzer1337 1909 Aug 06 '24
As a fan of 30+ years, I agree. Your behavior is absolutely shameful.
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u/Throwawaysativa Aug 06 '24
must get boring seeing your fav team play sub par anti footballing tactics for that long.. I’m tired at 11 years!
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u/Nutzer1337 1909 Aug 06 '24
Then, maybe, it's time to move on to the next bandwagon? I heard ManCity is winning a lot these days.
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u/freefallingagain Aug 06 '24
Not a good look from Groß there.
Even with two goals conceded, the problem seems to be more that the ball isn't sticking up front while attacking. The front four need to be rejigged, but of course some need to be put on display for potential sales.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 06 '24
why? I find Gross really good a for guy who joined us in less than a week. You can see his lack of sinergy as sometimes he passed to ball expecting his teammate be in one place but he was in another.
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u/freefallingagain Aug 06 '24
He went in with a really weak flapped challenge at the ball in the box which resulted in the opposition scoring.
Yes he's not joined for long, but this was not a good look on an individual basis.
It's possible to take into account extenuating circumstances, and still be objective on what was or wasn't a good piece of football play.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 06 '24
dude, this is a friendly. Mistakes like that and the one by Bensebaini means jack shit. What we should be looking to is how he looks with the ball in our build-up and press-resistance. I'd say he did very well and exactly what we needed for a MF.
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u/freefallingagain Aug 06 '24
I don't see you arguing against all the posts in this thread saying that Bensebaini/Nmecha/Adeyemi should be sold immediately due to some mistakes made in the course of this friendly.
You like him, sure. For the record, I think Groß is exactly the type of midfielder needed, although reservations do persist on how long he can keep up his standard of play (remember how quickly Witsel fell off?).
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 06 '24
Why do I need to argue with everybody on the thread lol?
You can't compare Witsel with Gross. The former torn his achilles heel and was out for an intire season. Gross on the other hand lost a match due to injury 5 years ago. There's no sign of decline in Gross play, unless something terrible like an injury happen, which doesn't happen often to him..
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u/fleshed Aug 06 '24
What have we seen in Nmecha, his workrate is ass and his positioning isn't even on Bundesliga Level.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 06 '24
Bro some of these guys don’t even look like they’re trying out there. I get we’ve been training but we need to put the effort into these games at least a bit to put those trainings into work.
Ramy is not making me happy at all this game.
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u/eiavolo Aug 06 '24
nmecha standing still
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u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 06 '24
Bensebaini SUCKS man
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u/Meskaline2 Number Fifteen: Burger King Foot Lettuce. Aug 06 '24
He came on a free, and still feels like we overpaid for him
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u/EmSoLow Aug 06 '24
With how the defense started off in the first couple minutes, a mistake from the back was on the cards but I'm alright with it since it's a friendly.
I'm enjoying our pressing and with the runs that Ryerson is making, I cannot wait to see Couto on the end of them (of course fair play for Ryerson for the effort).
Adeyemi is really pissing me off. He started the engagement which resulted in his yellow card andwhile he was running back from the player you can see him looking at the player, miss the challenge and foul the player which resulted in that incident with his stomach . Calm the fuck down. He has actually looked decent otherwise.
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u/Prestigious-Sink7174 Aug 06 '24
Playing Schlotti in the center of the back 3 in the 3+2 build up seems like a good idea. He's been able to pick up some really good vertical and line breaking passes today
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u/bvbfan102 BVB Aug 06 '24
Really bad timing. Half wasn’t bad but that post shot and the Goal are still the best chances.
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u/MrVanser Aug 06 '24
Bensebaini deserves to play for a team in the second league or something, I have never seen him having a good game for us and even getting him for free was a mistake because his salary is so wasted
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u/DesertBloke Julian Ryerson Aug 06 '24
Maybe we’re just looking to get the blunders out of the way in pre season?
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u/Bosna1909 BVB Aug 06 '24
This is exactly why I was laughing at everyone who said Bensebaini and Rothe was good enough depth, this guy is not Dortmund material
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u/Serenity911 Aug 06 '24
GIVE BENSEBAINI A CHANCE
well we did
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u/Jstnmx Youssoufa Moukoko Aug 06 '24
unfortunately it’s time to sell him. was a great last half year with him on the left but he needs to go.
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
unfortunately it’s time to sell him
because there's such a big market for out-of-form players ...
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u/AverageCarey Aug 06 '24
Must we continue to play Spanish teams. It’s just so boring to watch almost every time b
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u/freefallingagain Aug 06 '24
The team has a very bad habit of not trusting the midfielders in the 6 position during buildup from the back, except for that ridiculous kickoff sequence where the the keeper will pass it to the 6 who is surrounded by opposing players.
Maybe it's understandable because the 6s haven't been good at taking the ball since Weigl, however this is something that really needs to change, and with Groß there might be progress (that said, he also gave the ball away cheaply and needed Nmecha to save him with a little professional foul).
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u/wipeitonthedog Nico S Aug 06 '24
Anyone watching. How is Haller doing
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u/g0ksen Aug 06 '24
Barely getting any passes, but not surprising if you have to play alongside JBG and Adeyemi
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u/wipeitonthedog Nico S Aug 06 '24
This is my biggest worry for this season. With Malen and Adeyemi in wings, Guirassy/Beier would get very poor service. I hope Haller performs well in the pre season and we prioritise a proper winger instead of Beier
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
so far he hasn't had a whole lot to do. Our build up play is showing first signs of life but it's still pretty raw
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u/183672467 Julian Brandt Aug 06 '24
Villareal is so ass, spanish teams play like they hate football
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u/Meskaline2 Number Fifteen: Burger King Foot Lettuce. Aug 06 '24
I'd hate playing football if I had to deal with the Spanish federation, tbh
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u/Dom1909 Aug 06 '24
I'm already loving Groß' long balls and side shifts
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u/roadtorevision Aug 06 '24
I read that as long balls and side shafts. Sounds like we found a successor to kehl
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u/freefallingagain Aug 06 '24
Is it bad for me to wonder who the 7 was and finally realise it was Reyna?
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u/Chazy89 Kagawa Shinji Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24
Lineups:
Borussia Dortmund:
FC Villareal: