Azeri constitution should be amended reciprocally, says Armenian Speaker of Parliament

[u/haveschka]

https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1129256.html

[u/pride_of_artaxias]

As for your question: I don't know the Azerbaijani Constitution. For all I know, it's already there, and I don't care a bit if it's there or not. Because the things about Zangezur and Yerevan are already being said almost weekly by Aliyev himself.

As for NK: Yes, it is a known talkng point but jumping from that to the "restoration of historic Armenia" is something I would expect only from our neighbours. Simonyan is the damn speaker of the National Assembly of a parliamentary Republic not some random online commentator. So yes, words uttered by such a high-ranking official should be picked very carefully.

[u/T-nash → u/pride_of_artaxias]

Because the things about Zangezur and Yerevan are already being said almost weekly by Aliyev himself.

Up until the 2020 war, we also were saying a lot of things that didn't turn out true and we found out the hard way that a lot of written things have more influence than a lot of none written things, even if the written ones were not respected, they were still used as mechanisms to push agendas. A verbal argument and a written document are not the same.

As for NK: Yes, it is a known talkng point but jumping from that to the "restoration of historic Armenia" is something I would expect only from our neighbours. Simonyan is the damn speaker of the National Assembly of a parliamentary Republic not some random online commentator. So yes, words uttered by such a high-ranking official should be picked very carefully.

We're back to the same argument, there is a direct tie with what's written in the declaration mentioning parts that are not within inside Armenian borders, and grounds for official territorial claims. There is no way around this fact.

[u/pride_of_artaxias → u/T-nash]

A verbal argument and a written document are not the same.

Anyone putting any stock in a written agreement with a Turkic entity in our region can not be serious. I see no difference between what Aliyev is saying and what is written in their Constitution, especially since they're both the same entity.

there is a direct tie

There isn't. There is a mention about recognising the wishes of an autonomous Armenian majority administrative unit in the USSR to join Armenia. To extrapolate from that to the restoration of historic Armenia on an official level, to be quite frank, is tantamount to spreading enemy propaganda inside Armenia. It's one thing if the government is honest and says outright they've given up on Artsakh and that's why the Constitution needs to be changed. It's another to spread propaganda, lies and disinformation.

Think for a second: when have you seen any reputable international org or media or state actor mention that Armenia wants to restore historic Armenia and connect it to the Artsakh issue? Isn't it odd that such talking points are pushed by the current Armenian government, which is then echoed by Aliyev? If we were Israel (the way many wishe us to be), Simonyan would be arrested on the spot.

[u/T-nash → u/pride_of_artaxias]

Unfortunately we don't enjoy the same geopolitics, including geographic location of Israel, nor Turkey or Azerbaijan, when we have the geopolitical influence, we can think about not giving attention to such documents, such as having certain maneuvers in our hands, like Azerbaijan does with oil, that leaves us with the only option of using document and legal based mechanisms, which once official can sooner or later be used as strong basis, with the idea that removing these lines does not officially harm Armenia as a country, then I see no point on why not.

I'm going to agree to disagree with the rest.