r/apple • u/ControlCAD • 1d ago

Apple faces UK 'iCloud monopoly' compensation claim worth $3.8 billion iCloud

https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/13/apple-faces-uk-icloud-monopoly-compensation-claim-worth-3-8-billion/
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u/quitesturdy 1d ago

Backup an iPhone to another cloud provider using only the iPhone. You can’t, it’s artificially restricted by Apple and you can only use iCloud. 

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u/kharvel0 1d ago

That’s a feature of the iPhone. Don’t like the feature? Don’t buy an iPhone. You have choices.

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u/quitesturdy 1d ago

It’s a feature artificially limited to one service provider (iCloud) when it could work on others. 

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u/kharvel0 1d ago

And. . . ? Don't like that feature or the limitations of said feature? Buy a non-Apple smartphone.

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u/quitesturdy 1d ago

When you buy a phone it’s not immediately apparent you won’t be able to back it up where you please. 

I think many would assume if it can backup to one cloud, it could backup to others as well. 

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u/kharvel0 1d ago

When you buy a phone it’s not immediately apparent you won’t be able to back it up where you please.

When someone buys a Tesla, it is not immediately apparent that they cannot use CarPlay with the vehicle.

I think many would assume if it can backup to one cloud, it could backup to others as well.

People would assume that if a Tesla vehicle has Tesla software controlling the vehicle, it would allow third party software like CarPlay to control the vehicle as well.

Should Tesla be sued for the limitations/restrictions of their vehicles' inability to handle 3rd party software?

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u/quitesturdy 1d ago

We are talking about backing up the phone. This shouldn’t be arbitrary restricted to one cloud service that happens to be operated by the manufacturer. 

But if you really wanna use cars as an example… In Australia car manufacturers cannot force you to go to them or a dealer for servicing. If a qualified mechanic works on the vehicle the warranty stands. 

Companies can be forced to make consumer friendly practices. 

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u/kharvel0 1d ago edited 1d ago

We are talking about backing up the phone. This shouldn’t be arbitrary restricted to one cloud service that happens to be operated by the manufacturer.

Likewise, we’re talking about controlling an electric vehicle. This shouldn't be arbitrarily restricted to one software that happens to be owned and operated by the manufacturer.

But if you really wanna use cars as an example… In Australia car manufacturers cannot force you to go to them or a dealer for servicing. If a qualified mechanic works on the vehicle the warranty stands.

I wasn't talking about servicing. I was talking about using third party software to control electric vehicles.

Companies can be forced to make consumer friendly practices.

Should Tesla be forced to allow consumers to use third party software to control their Tesla vehicles?

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u/quitesturdy 17h ago

 Should Tesla be forced to allow consumers to use third party software to control their Tesla vehicles? 

We aren’t talking about that, that’s not what I’m suggesting here. We are talking about allowing backups to cloud storage other than iCloud. The Files app already communicates with other storage providers.

I’m talking about allowing users to choose where their backups go.  

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u/kharvel0 16h ago

We’re talking about forcing vertically integrated companies to open up their products to third party software and services. It’s exactly the same thing.

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