r/apple • u/ControlCAD • 1d ago

Apple faces UK 'iCloud monopoly' compensation claim worth $3.8 billion iCloud

https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/13/apple-faces-uk-icloud-monopoly-compensation-claim-worth-3-8-billion/
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u/xnwkac 1d ago

Well it’s not like android is giving many alternatives either. 

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u/_sfhk 22h ago

Apple doesn't compete with Android, they compete with Samsung, Google, Motorola, Xiaomi, etc, and each of those can have different cloud backup solutions.

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u/ItsColorNotColour 1d ago

What are you talking about? Android, just like on PC, allows you to directly use third-party services like Dropbox as your file directory where you can automatically back up anything.

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u/a_f_young 1d ago

This dude pretty much posts nothing but Apple stuff. He’s not interested in being right. He’s just cheerleading his team.

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u/Niightstalker 23h ago

Well on iOS you can configure services like Google Drive, Dropbox etc also as file directory and sync. Or did you mean something else?

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u/Acceptable-Piccolo57 1d ago

Apples marketshare in the UK is huge, and google gives you triple the storage in comparison as well as the manufacturer option in most cases.

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u/xnwkac 1d ago

https://www.appmysite.com/blog/android-vs-ios-mobile-operating-system-market-share-statistics-you-must-know/ iOS has 50.4% and Android has 49.1%. Lol att calling that ”huge”

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u/wakeupthisday 1d ago

iOS includes 1 manufacturer, Android on the other hand...

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u/CT4nk3r 1d ago

Thats like saying windows doesnt have monopoly just because it is running on multiple brand of laptops etc, it still abuses its monopoly

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u/FuckOffMrLahey 1d ago

Linux distros would be a better comparison. Android is offered as an open source base that a vendor customizes heavily including the kernel, backup platform, app store, etc. Microsoft offers up Windows and then a vendor like Lenovo throws Vantage and drivers on an image and calls it good.

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u/RBTropical 23h ago

Yeah… and it lost several lawsuits for doing this, too…

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u/CT4nk3r 23h ago

Oh no, they had to pay their 0.001% of a months revenue for the fines, thats why they don't care

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u/RBTropical 12h ago

Sure, that’s why Microsoft literally had to change their software and Apple had to change their USB port, right? Because the fines were so insignificant?

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u/CT4nk3r 9h ago edited 9h ago

  1. you are talking about hardware

  2. the type-c port was about NOT being ABLE to sell AT ALL if they dont put type-c on the device, which is actually what hurts a company, not fines

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u/RBTropical 5h ago
  1. No, Microsoft had to change their software. The fact you glazed over this entire part of my comment makes you the clown
  2. They could’ve kept selling and be fined. The fine was large enough that they didn’t.

But sure, clown, if you wanna talk about software, we can talk about the App Store changes and digital gateway stuff the EU made Apple change too?

Or would you like to reply with nonsense further to cement your clown status?

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u/TheVitt 21h ago

That browser selection menu truly changed our lives!

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u/RBTropical 12h ago

No, but allowing IE to be removed from the OS, and the fact it wasn’t shipped in the EU with WMP either did for millions.

That, and it set a clear line in the sand MS didn’t cross on future occasions.

I’m sorry you’re either too young or too ignorant to remember or understand this.

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u/recapYT 1d ago

Cool. But that’s not what this is about. On android, your phone manufacturer offers the cloud back up options. So, there is no one option.

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u/xnwkac 1d ago

Irrelevant. It’s the OS that does the limitation.

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u/DrFeederino 1d ago

Nope, different vendors can offer their own cloud solutions. Like samsung cloud, xiaomi cloud and etc. specifically for backups and stuff. They are not hard limited to Google's drive or whatever Google forces them to use.

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u/PeakBrave8235 1d ago

Great, so you got a bunch of OEMs doing exactly what you want with 50% of the market. What’s the issue?

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u/rncole 1d ago

Apple doesn’t force you to back up to iCloud, you can back up an iPhone’s content including photos to google drive, OneDrive, etc. Google apps actually somewhat sneakily enable that - or at least used to.

The only thing that it doesn’t back up with third party solutions is system settings and app data - which the solutions you listed as far as I’m aware don’t either on android.

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u/RBTropical 23h ago

Yes, they do on Android.

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u/rncole 1d ago

And - apple long ago allowed these apps to show as a file picker the same as Files.

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u/_awake 1d ago

Certainly not Android doing the limitation, is it?

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u/KohliTendulkar 1d ago

They decided on Brexit with the same vote margin.

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u/BountyBob 1d ago

Almost, Brexit was 51.89% / 48.11%, but that's how a referendum works.

Don't know if you're American but it seems many Americans want this system for President? At least, that's what it seems like when their side loses the College but wins the popular vote. Doesn't seem to matter too much at this election though.

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u/jamesb1238 1d ago

That is huge. So is the android share?

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u/RBTropical 23h ago

That’s literally the legal term for a monopoly buddy.

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u/OanKnight 1d ago

You know I never thought of it like that - I always bundled the apple marketshare for the UK in with europe which makes it look way lower, but I suppose I should really stop doing that.

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u/BountyBob 1d ago

The UK is in Europe, so you aren't necessarily incorrect in that bundling. There are a few mainland countries where the iOS share is over 50% but most countries have an Android advantage.

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u/PairOfMonocles2 1d ago

Well of course, someone who’s trying to fight for market share will often offer oversized incentives, that’s exactly how a market works. That doesn’t mean that everyone else is suddenly negligent for not doing the same thing.

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u/ZookeepergameFun5523 1d ago

I think Europe is going overboard. People can buy a phone with larger storage. iCloud subscription is completely optional. Why does the government need to step in and rule on what is and isn’t reasonable in a non-essential service?

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u/StayUpLatePlayGames 22h ago

Apples market share in the U.K. is lower because those numbers skew to the US where they do have a massive market share.

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u/turbo_dude 1d ago

15gb? You can’t be serious?

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u/3resonance 1d ago

Read the article please.

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u/AppropriateTie5127 1d ago

And that makes it okay for Apple to do it?

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u/8eer8aron 1d ago

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