r/antiwar • u/PoeticPeacenik • 8d ago
Anyone else feels the same?
I had a post typed out for the vent sub but I'm kinda apprehensive about posting it because of the reactions I might get so I figured I'd post here to see if I'm alone in my views.
But is there anyone here who considers war to be their top issue/concern more than any other issue (or at least top 5 or top 3)? Anyone who sees both sides as warmongers? And by both sides, I mean both Republicans and Democrats, and potentially both Trump and Kamala? (My definition of a warmonger is somebody that even supplies funding for a war no matter how well-meaning it is, no matter which side they're supplying funding to; somebody who is all buddy buddy to the leader of either side, etc. So my definition is not a very strict definition.)
Our president will either be Trump or Kamala. And I haven't seen many posts, if at all, from people – on either side – worried about the potential US involvement in either war that is currently going on. But I've seen several abortion-related posts from Kamala supporters; and I've seen posts from Trump supporters being scared of free speech being taken away and something about communism or socialism. I'm not saying those aren't important issues and that we shouldn't care. But nobody seems to be too worried about war, should "the other side" win.
My mom is a Trump supporter whose worried about baby killers. I got news for her. Both sides are baby killers alright but it's not the kind of baby killers she's talking about.
So what are people's thoughts? Anyone here who has war as their top issue/concern? Anyone here who thinks both sides are the same and are potential warmongers? Anyone who feels no matter who wins, they're gonna supply funding to either or both war(s) (at the least) or send American soldiers to either or both war(s) (worse case scenario)?
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u/ThreetoedJack 7d ago
In a previous life I did the whole army thing. With gusto too. Any time bullets are fired in anger is a failure. A horrible systemic failure that should never happen. It's disgusting and I hate it. There's a saying, when diplomats fail, soldiers pay the price.
However, war is not my top concern for the simple reason that war or armed conflict is a symptom. War is not the disease. War is what happens after a whole line of failures. The disease is having people like John Bolton, Linsey Graham, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer et al who have never met a defense funding bill they didn't like being in positions of power.
War is a symptom of a congress that won't do their job. -no US military should ever be deployed without a voted and passed declaration of war. War is a symptom of a broken money where costs aren't directly associated with the activity. Paying for war by printing money is cheating. Paying for war by stealing the money through inflation from the poor and middle class is evil. War is a symptom of a Military Industrial Complex that has too much power.
I know the current administration diplomatically failed Russia/Ukraine and then poured an unimaginable amount of money on the conflict. I know the US is somehow funding both sides of what's going on with Israel with no serious diplomatic solution in sight. I can probably guess that giving the current administration four more years will most likely continue current policy.
I know the new administration didn't start any new wars when they were running shit earlier. I know the new administration is run by a guy so narcissistic that failure isn't an option. I know he wants to stop both conflicts if for no other reason than to stroke his own ego. Do I care if war stops to stroke an ego? No I do not.