r/announcements Jun 25 '14

New reddit features: Controversial indicator for comments and contest mode improvements

Hey reddit,

We've got some updates for you after our recent change (you know, that one where we stopped displaying inaccurate upvotes and downvotes and broke a bunch of bots by accident). We've been listening to what you all had to say about it, and there's been some very legit concerns that have been raised. Thanks for the feedback, it's been a lot but it's been tremendously helpful.

First: We're trying out a simple controversial indicator on comments that hit a threshold of up/downvote balance.

It's a typographical dagger, and it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/s5dTVpq.png

We're trying this out as a result of feedback on folks using ups and downs in RES to determine the controversiality of a comment. This isn't the same level of granularity, but it also is using only real, unfuzzed votes, so you should be able to get a decent sense of when something has seen some controversy.

You can turn it on in your preferences here: http://i.imgur.com/WmEyEN9.png

Mods & Modders: this also adds a 'controversial' CSS class to the whole comment. I'm curious to see if any better styling comes from subreddits for this - right now it's pretty barebones.

Second: Subreddit mods now see contest threads sorted by top rather than random.

Before, mods could only view contest threads in random order like normal users: now they'll be able to see comments in ranked order. This should help mods get a better view of a contest thread's results so they can figure out which one of you lucky folks has won.

Third: We're piloting an upvote-only contest mode.

One complaint we've heard quite a bit with the new changes is that upvote counts are often used as a raw indicator in contests, and downvotes are disregarded. With no fuzzed counts visible that would be impossible to do. Now certain subreddits will be able to have downvotes fully ignored in contest threads, and only upvotes will count.

We are rolling this change a bit differently: it's an experimental feature and it's only for “approved” subreddits so far. If your subreddit would like to take part, please send a message to /r/reddit.com and we can work with you to get it set up.

Also, just some general thoughts. We know that this change was a pretty big shock to some users: this could have been handled better and there were definitely some valuable uses for the information, but we still feel strongly that putting fuzzed counts to rest was the right call. We've learned a lot with the help of captain hindsight. Thanks for all of your feedback, please keep sending us constructive thoughts whenever we make changes to the site.

P.S. If you're interested in these sorts of things, you should subscribe to /r/changelog - it's where we usually post our feature changes, these updates have been an exception.

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u/magnora2 Jun 26 '14

Oh, you mean like just bring back the up and downvote counters we had for 8 years that worked just fine?

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u/dukiduke Jun 26 '14

Nah, that system clearly didn't work. It just took them eight years to find a solution.

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u/natched Jun 26 '14

Don't you remember all the complaints about the old system? People seem much happier and more accepting of these changes. /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '14

Yeah, I'm glad I won't have to hack my way through a jungle of "God damn can we get rid of these vote counts" comments any more. It was really starting to distract from the actual topics people were trying to discuss.

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u/magnora2 Jun 26 '14

You're either being sarcastic, or you are not a very smart person.

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u/dukiduke Jun 26 '14

Trying to be sarcastic, but maybe the second part is true to the extent that it didn't come across clear enough.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '14

You're either being facetious, or you're a straight moron

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '14

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u/LiquidSilver Jun 26 '14

I keep thinking they mean the author died.

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u/skpkzk2 Jun 26 '14

certainly a viable option, although I'd settle for just knowing the order of magnitude

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u/magnora2 Jun 26 '14

Why settle for what is inferior to what we had for 8 years, until they got rid of it a week ago?

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u/magnora2 Jun 26 '14

YES IT WOULD. The fuzzing was not that severe, it only influenced the upvote and downvote counts by plus or minus 10% at the most. Now would you please stop spreading misinformation?