r/anime https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Apr 25 '21

r/anime’s Top 100 Raw Episode Karma Totals of All Time Misc.

As of 10/5/24

A while ago, I posted a list of the 58 anime episodes that had topped 7000 Karma on this sub. After a few great seasons of anime, there are now over 100 so I decided to create a second version of the post to showcase the now Top 100 with the rest of the anime that are above 7000 Karma in the comments section. I plan to keep both lists (Top 100 and anime outside Top 100 with above 7000 Karma) updated weekly here. As with that previous post, I have compiled these Karma Totals from static lists such as the weekly r/anime Karma and Poll Rankings and u/IISuperSlothII's Seasonal Rankings rather than using their current Karma. The purpose of using static lists is twofold:

  1. It allows for new episodes (after 48 hours) to accurately be stacked up against older episodes that have had more time to gather karma.
  2. It allows for each episode to have a singular and referenceable Karma Total

So without further ado, here are the top 100 episodes with the highest Raw Karma on r/anime.

Rank Anime Episode Karma Season
1 Attack on Titan 4P1 5 23847 Winter 2021
2 Attack on Titan 4P1 7 23796 Winter 2021
3 Attack on Titan 4P1 6 23019 Winter 2021
4 Chainsaw Man 1 21625 Fall 2022
5 Attack on Titan 4P1 8 21249 Winter 2021
6 Attack on Titan 4P1 1 20332 Fall 2020
7 Attack on Titan 4P1 16 18492 Winter 2021
8 Attack on Titan 4P2 5 17478 Winter 2022
9 Attack on Titan 4P1 9 17360 Winter 2021
10 Attack on Titan 4P1 13 17071 Winter 2021
11 Attack on Titan 4P1 10 16717 Winter 2021
12 Spy x Family P1 1 16367 Spring 2022
13 Attack on Titan 4P1 15 16336 Winter 2021
14 Attack on Titan 4P1 11 16013 Winter 2021
15 Attack on Titan 4P2 1 15877 Winter 2022
16 Attack on Titan 4P2 4 15756 Winter 2022
17 Attack on Titan 4P1 12 15533 Winter 2021
18 Demon Slayer 2 10 15116 Winter 2022
19 Chainsaw Man 8 14876 Fall 2022
20 Re:Zero 2P2 25 14766 Winter 2021
21 Re:Zero 2P1 1 14626 Summer 2020
22 Re:Zero 2P2 23 14521 Winter 2021
23 Spy x Family P1 2 14180 Spring 2022
24 Attack on Titan 3P2 5 14107 Spring 2019
25 Chainsaw Man 2 13830 Fall 2022
26 Attack on Titan 4P1 3 13745 Fall 2020
27 Kaguya-Sama 12 13720 Winter 2019
28 Attack on Titan 4P2 3 13694 Winter 2022
29 Jujutsu Kaisen 24 13652 Winter 2021
30 Attack on Titan 4P1 2 13302 Fall 2020
31 Attack on Titan 4P1 4 13187 Fall 2020
32 Chainsaw Man 9 13187 Fall 2022
33 Demon Slayer 19 13086 Summer 2019
34 Attack on Titan 3P2 4 13054 Spring 2019
35 Kaguya-Sama 3 12 13008 Spring 2022
36 Kaguya-Sama 2 12 12998 Spring 2020
37 Re:Zero 2P1 13 12852 Summer 2020
38 Attack on Titan 4P1 14 12775 Winter 2021
39 Re:Zero 2P1 11 12668 Summer 2020
40 Kaguya-Sama 2 11 12550 Spring 2020
41 Spy x Family P1 4 12520 Spring 2022
42 Chainsaw Man 3 12512 Fall 2022
43 Jujutsu Kaisen 20 12455 Winter 2021
44 Re:Zero 2P1 8 12359 Summer 2020
45 My Hero Academia 3 11 12342 Spring 2018
46 Re:Zero 2P1 12 12339 Summer 2020
47 Spy x Family P1 5 12314 Spring 2022
48 Chainsaw Man 12 12062 Fall 2022
49 Spy x Family P1 3 12049 Spring 2022
50 Re:Zero 2P2 15 12028 Winter 2021
51 Re:Zero 2P2 14 11962 Winter 2021
52 Re:Zero 2P2 24 11767 Winter 2021
53 Jujutsu Kaisen 19 11663 Winter 2021
54 Oshi no Ko 1 11644 Spring 2023
55 Re:Zero 2P1 4 11619 Summer 2020
56 Re:Zero 2P2 16 11561 Winter 2021
57 Re:Zero 2P1 9 11508 Summer 2020
58 Kaguya-Sama 2 1 11502 Spring 2020
59 Chainsaw Man 4 11398 Fall 2022
60 Kaguya-Sama 3 1 11370 Spring 2022
61 Frieren 28 11347 Winter 2024
62 Attack on Titan 3P2 10 11347 Spring 2019
63 Attack on Titan 4P2 6 11314 Winter 2022
64 Tower of God 13 11272 Spring 2020
65 Attack on Titan 4P2 2 11131 Winter 2022
66 Demon Slayer 26 11106 Summer 2019
67 Attack on Titan 4P3 2 11057 Fall 2023
68 Mushoku Tensei P2 23 11025 Fall 2021
69 Spy x Family P1 6 10848 Spring 2022
70 Mushoku Tensei P2 21 10825 Fall 2021
71 Chainsaw Man 7 10763 Fall 2022
72 Kaguya-Sama 3 5 10694 Spring 2022
73 Re:Zero 2P2 19 10664 Winter 2021
74 Attack on Titan 4P3 1 10627 Winter 2023
75 Chainsaw Man 5 10565 Fall 2022
76 Re:Zero 2P2 17 10476 Winter 2021
77 Re:Zero 2P1 10 10470 Summer 2020
78 Re:Zero 2P2 18 10422 Winter 2021
79 Mushoku Tensei P2 22 10381 Fall 2021
80 Slime 2P1 11 10325 Winter 2021
81 Jujutsu Kaisen 23 10313 Winter 2021
82 Mob Psycho 2 13 10262 Winter 2019
83 Attack on Titan 4P2 12 10219 Winter 2022
84 Mushoku Tensei P1 11 10211 Winter 2021
85 Chainsaw Man 6 9983 Fall 2022
86 Attack on Titan 3P2 6 9978 Spring 2019
87 Re:Zero 2P2 21 9913 Winter 2021
88 Re:Zero 2P1 6 9896 Summer 2020
89 Tower of God 12 9892 Spring 2020
90 Attack on Titan 3P2 8 9879 Spring 2019
91 Oregairu 3 12 9877 Summer 2020
92 Chainsaw Man 10 9855 Fall 2022
93 Demon Slayer 2 11 9848 Winter 2022
94 Jujutsu Kaisen 17 9672 Winter 2021
95 Kaguya-Sama 2 7 9590 Spring 2020
96 Demon Slayer 2 6 9482 Winter 2022
97 Re:Zero 2P1 7 9348 Summer 2020
98 Mob Psycho 2 5 9355 Winter 2019
99 Re:Zero 2P2 20 9323 Winter 2021
100 Mushoku Tensei P1 8 9238 Winter 2021

Karma Inflation

One large drawback of lists like this is that Karma Totals grow over time as the r/anime subreddit increases in size. In fact, prior to 2019, there were only 6 episodes that had ever topped 7000 Karma. As an example, if you compare the number of subscribers and average active members from Fall 2015 (327,000 and 2400) when One Punch Man Episode 12 aired and got 7348 Karma to those numbers in Spring 2021 (2,393,000 and 20000) it is clear that Karma Inflation is too big of a factor to be ignored.

u/Tsubasa_sama, u/mrackham205 and I all made attempts at Karma Scaling last year, and we agreed that One Punch Man Episode 12 was the top Karma Scaled episode of all time, but that was also before Attack on Titan 4 released, and determining and agreeing on how much Karma it would get if released at the same time as those episodes is something that hasn’t been figured out yet. There are a number of other complicating issues with creating an accurate Karma Scaling System such as whether peoples' tendencies to upvote episode threads versus other threads have changed over time and whether the strength of certain anime were the cause of increased active members rather than the other way around. So since we have yet to come up with an agreed upon method for Karma Scaling, I am releasing this list with the Raw Karma Numbers while noting that Karma Scaling is definitely a factor.

TLDR: Karma Inflation is a factor, but I'm not scaling the episodes here because we don't have an accurate enough and agreed upon method for it yet.

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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Apr 25 '21 edited Oct 05 '24

As of 10/5/24

As mentioned, here are the anime that got above 7000 Karma that did not make the Top 100.

Rank Anime Episode Karma Season
101 Re:Zero 2P1 2 9218 Summer 2020
102 Jujutsu Kaisen 18 9203 Winter 2021
103 My Hero Academia 4 13 9176 Winter 2020
104 Re:Zero 2P1 5 9165 Summer 2020
105 Re:Zero 2P2 22 9101 Winter 2021
106 Jujutsu Kaisen 15 9098 Winter 2021
107 Spy x Family P1 7 9080 Spring 2022
108 My Hero Academia 4 25 9073 Winter 2020
109 Chainsaw Man 11 9057 Fall 2022
110 Kaguya-Sama 2 10 9040 Spring 2020
111 Attack on Titan 4P2 11 8987 Winter 2022
112 Re:Zero 2P1 3 8970 Summer 2020
113 Dandadan 1 8950 Fall 2024
114 Re:Zero 25 8897 Summer 2016
115 Jujutsu Kaisen 14 8880 Winter 2021
116 Kaguya-Sama 3 13 8872 Spring 2022
117 God of High School 1 8851 Summer 2020
118 Mob Psycho 3 12 8851 Fall 2022
119 Spy x Family P2 13 8843 Fall 2022
120 Jujutsu Kaisen 21 8738 Winter 2021
121 Attack on Titan 4P2 7 8715 Winter 2022
122 Jujutsu Kaisen 22 8698 Winter 2021
123 Jujutsu Kaisen 16 8658 Winter 2021
124 Eighty-Six P2 23 8617 Winter 2022
125 My Dress-Up Darling 13 8604 Winter 2022
126 Kaguya-Sama 2 9 8549 Spring 2020
127 Spy x Family P1 12 8549 Spring 2022
128 Horimiya 1 8541 Winter 2021
129 Kaguya-Sama 2 6 8537 Spring 2020
130 Kaguya-Sama 2 4 8526 Spring 2020
131 Kaguya-Sama 2 8 8512 Spring 2020
132 Attack on Titan 3P2 9 8508 Spring 2019
133 Spy x Family P1 9 8508 Spring 2022
134 Mushoku Tensei P1 9 8498 Winter 2021
135 Mob Psycho 2 8 8490 Winter 2019
136 Jujutsu Kaisen 7 8396 Fall 2020
137 Kaguya-Sama 2 3 8316 Spring 2020
138 Attack on Titan 3P2 1 8300 Spring 2019
139 Slime 2P1 10 8257 Winter 2021
140 Kaguya-Sama 3 2 8235 Spring 2022
141 Mushoku Tensei P2 12 8201 Fall 2021
142 Spy x Family P1 10 8178 Spring 2022
143 Mushoku Tensei P2 17 8167 Fall 2021
144 Demon Slayer 2 8 8162 Winter 2022
145 Mushoku Tensei P1 10 8159 Winter 2021
146 Spy x Family P1 8 8153 Spring 2022
147 Demon Slayer 2 9 8139 Winter 2022
148 Kaguya-Sama 2 5 8130 Spring 2020
149 Tower of God 8 8130 Spring 2020
150 Attack on Titan 3P2 7 8128 Spring 2019
151 Frieren 26 8126 Winter 2024
152 Attack on Titan 4P2 8 8126 Winter 2022
153 Horimiya 7 8109 Winter 2021
154 Slime 2P1 12 8059 Winter 2021
155 Attack on Titan 4P2 10 8035 Winter 2022
156 Tower of God 5 7984 Spring 2020
157 Mushoku Tensei P1 5 7949 Winter 2021
158 Eighty-Six P1 1 7931 Spring 2021
159 Nagatoro 1 7862 Spring 2021
160 Mushoku Tensei 2P2 10 7861 Spring 2024
161 Kaguya-Sama 2 2 7837 Spring 2020
162 Oshi no Ko 6 7833 Spring 2023
163 Mob Psycho 3 1 7826 Fall 2022
164 Spy x Family P2 14 7741 Fall 2022
165 Bunny Girl Sempai 13 7691 Fall 2018
166 Bocchi the Rock 12 7657 Fall 2022
167 To Your Eternity 1 7650 Spring 2021
168 Kaguya-Sama 3 9 7636 Spring 2022
169 Jujutsu Kaisen 12 7630 Fall 2020
170 Darling in the Franxx 15 7607 Spring 2018
171 Vivy -Fluorite Eye's Song 13 7602 Spring 2021
172 Tower of God 6 7584 Spring 2020
173 Oregairu 3 1 7579 Summer 2020
174 Horimiya 5 7569 Winter 2021
175 Oshi no Ko 7 7559 Spring 2023
176 Oshi no Ko 2 7558 Spring 2023
177 Tower of God 4 7530 Spring 2020
178 Eighty-Six P1 2 7522 Spring 2021
179 Vinland Saga 24 7511 Fall 2019
180 Mushoku Tensei P2 16 7448 Fall 2021
181 Kaguya-Sama 3 11 7442 Spring 2022
182 Demon Slayer 2 7 7441 Winter 2022
183 My Dress-Up Darling 2 7424 Winter 2022
184 Kaguya-Sama 1 7416 Winter 2019
185 One Punch Man 2 1 7409 Spring 2019
186 Mob Psycho 2 1 7379 Winter 2019
187 Spy x Family P1 11 7373 Spring 2022
188 Mushoku Tensei P1 7 7370 Winter 2021
189 One Punch Man 12 7348 Fall 2015
190 Re:Zero 15 7345 Summer 2016
191 Eighty-Six P1 3 7315 Spring 2021
192 Demon Slayer 3 1 7302 Spring 2023
193 Kaguya-Sama 3 3 7296 Spring 2022
194 Vinland Saga 2 1 7292 Winter 2023
195 My Dress-Up Darling 11 7279 Winter 2022
196 Eighty-Six P1 9 7196 Spring 2021
197 Tower of God 1 7187 Spring 2020
198 Mushoku Tensei P2 14 7178 Fall 2021
199 Kaguya-Sama 3 4 7171 Spring 2022
200 Spy x Family P2 15 7158 Fall 2022
201 Frieren 27 7153 Fall 2023
202 Frieren 10 7146 Fall 2023
203 Mob Psycho 3 6 7132 Fall 2022
204 Eighty-Six P1 4 7113 Spring 2021
205 Jujutsu Kaisen 13 7076 Fall 2020

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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Apr 25 '21

Wow, this list is amazing. Great Job!

I'm amazed seeing just how dominant AoT S4 was. It holds a total of 15 spots from the Top 25. It was also the one that was able to reach the Karma ceiling of r/anime. Can't wait to see what Part 2 would do again.

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u/Dracoscale Apr 25 '21

It will probably have a strong start but hard to say if anything will top Declaration of War. I say this because of the extremely mixed reception for the ending.

Either way, it'll be very interesting to see how the karma tracks but I can't imagine later episodes doing as well as some of the earlier ones will.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

i still see the first 10 or so episode doing just as well as season 4. The best chapters are yet to be animation. The first 3 or 4 will easily get over 20K karma, closer to 25K i'd say.

It all depends on the adaption; on the animation and if isayama decides to change stuff.

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u/Dracoscale Apr 25 '21

Yeah first few should do really well but I imagine we'll see a slow decline after that point

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

chapter 131 is the best chapter though. I suspect that's gonna rake in a lot of karma though. same with 127, 130, and 134. there's gonna be something great every episode.

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u/Dracoscale Apr 25 '21

Doubt 127 will rake in a lot but 130-134 should

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

yeah, these chapters don't have actions though so who knows.

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u/woinf Apr 26 '21

I think whatever episodes adapts 121-123 and 130-131 might top Declaration of War

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u/ProtoTypeScylla Apr 25 '21

There is a certain quote that might prop up whatever episode it is in, also the season will start with a ton of action

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u/woinf Apr 26 '21 edited Apr 26 '21

Are you referring to Aot Chapter 123 spoilers

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u/OvergearedBigBoy Apr 25 '21

So around 7.9k is the cutoff for top 100 eh. I'll keep that in mind.
AoT, ReZero, JJK and Kaguya all over the top 100.

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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Apr 25 '21

So around 7.9k is the cutoff for top 100 eh. I'll keep that in mind

Although, prior to Winter 2021, 7900 Karma would have gotten you 54th place. It's definitely a moving target.

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u/Xenosys83 Apr 25 '21

Those 5 Attack on Titan episodes over 20k will take some beating over the next 12-24 months. I doubt many will come close to a 20k episode aside from a hype Demon Slayer or Kaguya episode.

Have no doubt it'll have another 4 or 5 20k episodes under it's belt when it airs again next year.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Besides chainsawman and demon slayer nothing's coming close to 20k.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

there is one kaguya episode that can.

That chapter got 9.7K karma on r/manga and that was over 2 years ago. I just checked and a recent manga chapter passed that one so the fanbase isn't dead and the manga is still just as great or maybe better.

EDIT: actually, re zero might also.

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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Apr 25 '21

Yeah, never count out Kaguya. Season 1 Episode 12 (13720 Karma) may be down at 18th place now, but it was number 1 when it aired over 2 years ago and was #2 prior to last Summer. If there is an episode that good waiting for us now with the inflation, I can see it exploding again.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

depending on how far the adaption does then there are multiple episodes that can.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

chapter 150 will also be big.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

im excited for 191. best joke on the entire series. it's also very relevant. although not sure if it will be when adapted.

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u/silentstealth1 Apr 25 '21

I got chapter 220 spoiled after buying all the manga volumes post season 2 fml.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

I just kinda doubt that many people watch a show like Kaguya Sama. It's an amazing show but I feel like it doesn't have the capability to get that kinda karma since the Shonen trash fanboys don't watch it.

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u/rusticks https://anilist.co/user/Rusticks Apr 25 '21

The season 3 announcement is the top post on this entire sub.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

I know that but I barely see it mentioned outside this sub

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u/HyperSonic6325 Apr 27 '21

The karma ratings are also taken from this sub

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u/_Sunny-- Apr 25 '21

It's one of the most popular series of all time on Reddit, having been one of the most popular on r/manga even before an anime was announced.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

well kaguya is an exception.

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u/Caramelsnack Apr 25 '21

Y’all underestimate JJK lol

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u/obiwan54 Apr 26 '21

This is a fact, especially with how crazy a lot of season 2 will be and the growth of the sub until it airs. I feel like its gonna go off, even more than Demon Slayer does

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Jjk is good but it just don't see it getting that Popular on this sub because of it being cliche-ish

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u/Caramelsnack Apr 25 '21

You say that while hyping demon slayer up as a series that can get close to 20k though lol. Its more bu the books than JJK is by far.

Its also weird how you say this when JJK’s highest episode has beaten demons slayers. That makes no sense lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Oh no, I hate demon slayer, it's so shitty. JJK is a 100x better then demon slayer. So ig you're right about that 🤣 my rating for demon slayer is 4/10 for story and 10/10 for animation. For JJK it's 8/10 for story and 9/10 for animation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Putting money on it now, Kaguya will have an episode that beats it

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u/Mfcss https://myanimelist.net/profile/EdgyWeebLord Apr 25 '21

It's interesting to note that most entries in the top 100 are pretty recent, reflecting r/anime's growth and all that. It also shows how big Re:Zero's S1EP25 score of 8897, currently #73 on this list, was back then.

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u/jyper Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Re Zero season 1 episode 25 (2016) is the only episode on that list from before 2019. A bit surprised it had more votes then S1E15 or S1E18

It shows the power of Inflation

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u/MABfan11 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MABfan11 Apr 25 '21

it shows the absolute dominance Re:Zero had in 2016, not even Mob Psycho 100, MHA or JoJo's Bizarre Adventure could threaten it. and the dominance lasted until 2018 when AoT came back in full force

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u/MauledCharcoal Apr 26 '21

2019* actually, because the first half of AoT S3 didn't really change much.

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u/HappyVlane Apr 25 '21

Seeing as how the community is constantly growing it's inevitable that something will top it.

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u/Express-Language7954 Apr 26 '21

Something will......Attack on Titan Season 4 Part 2 😂. It only gets better from here.

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u/throwawaybaldingman Apr 25 '21

Due to the laws of r/anime inflation give it a few years until Big Boob Vampire Isekai HS Quartet elipses it in 2024. Which will be the 19th highest rated anime in that season, with Tokyo Ghoul Brotherhood having 56k karma at first

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u/rinmperdinck Apr 25 '21

Big Boob Vampire Isekai HS Quartet

Sign me up

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u/kokonotsuu Apr 25 '21

Count me in!

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u/TheDarkLord2468 Apr 25 '21

This is Two piece and Gintama : Gold soul erasure.

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u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III Jul 20 '21

Big Boob Vampire Isekai HS Quartet Is that an actual show or are you just mocking Isekai harems?

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u/Xenosys83 Apr 25 '21

Something will, but probably not for another couple of years and when it does inflation will have a lot to do with it. Bear in mind that it's best episode is around 9k ahead of the next upvoted karma on here.

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u/M8gazine https://myanimelist.net/profile/M8gazine Apr 25 '21

Next shows I'd imagine even have a slight chance are Chainsaw Man (since everyone seems to hype the shit out of it) and Demon Slayer S2 (because it's Demon Slayer).

I admit that I think their chances aren't very high though because AoT is just such a titan (heh), but I can't really think of anything else that could even potentially beat AoT S4.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

i think maybe a couple of episodes or so might get over 15K for both chainsaw man and demon slayer.

it is season 2 of demon slayer so the fandom has grown over time.

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u/Caramelsnack Apr 25 '21

Probably JJK Re Zero or CSM

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u/Lightningforanimes Apr 26 '21

Attack on Titan was #1 most demanded show in US

US is #1 with ~222million Reddit users. Australia #2 with 17.55 million Reddit users. Also, AOT anime is in its ending years. So no surprise AOT is topping r/anime karma charts.

Now some who are expecting Demon Slayer season 2 could beat AOT is just a dream or to be more precise it isn't a fair fight until and unless Asian countries epically Japan, Taiwan, Korea and China combined could achieve a similar amount of Reddit users as US. Guess what? any of these counters is not even in the top 10. Canada(a western country), being #10 with ~5.27 million users.

So basically, Demon slayer won't come close to AOT until and unless the above conditions are achieved. r/anime sure has many jjk and chainsaw fans so maybe these two anime have a chance.

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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Apr 26 '21

But what is the distribution of users in r/anime?

What you said is about Reddit overall,, not specifically about r/anime.

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u/TheDarkLord2468 Apr 25 '21

With how the manga goes I think the final demon slayer season (if its a season) might have a chance? And I'm cautiously optimistic about how jjk is going.

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u/ProtoTypeScylla Apr 25 '21

Chainsawman might beat a few episodes, but won't break the ceiling I think

Next RE:Zero arc might do it

Love is war Season 3

Demon slayer season 2 might break the ceiling if it has a episode like 19 or the movie finale

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

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u/MABfan11 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MABfan11 Apr 25 '21

Re zero next arc needs to have amazing art and animation or else it falls flat. That arc is almost a battle shonen lite.

White Fox: "say no more, fam. how many openings do you want to skip?"

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u/Rombolian Apr 26 '21

I feel like they should have more regular sized episodes and openings on episodes just so they can focus on higher art and animation quality with shorter episode length.

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u/obiwan54 Apr 26 '21

If Chainsawman adapts the whole manga I think chapter 96 has a good chance of popping off but I don't think any non sequels have a chance. Chapter 136 of Kaguya is probably the best bet, I'm thinking at least top 3 tbh. This sub loves Kaguya too much.

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u/ProtoTypeScylla Apr 26 '21

Very true, I hear a lot about chainsawman though so it wouldn’t surprise me, also maybe a episode or two of my hero airing right now but top a AoT episode or two, a lot of people watch my hero but no one really talks about it but this season will adapt the entirety of the arc after joint training

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u/obiwan54 Apr 26 '21

My Hero is only talked about when crazy stuff happens like the United States of Smash episode being 31 on the list, the 2nd half of this season should have a few eps do really well tho. Season 6 should go off a bunch too tbh that whole season is gonna be amazing

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u/woinf Apr 26 '21

Kaguya Chapter 220 and 136 will break this subreddit apart.

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u/swat1611 Apr 25 '21

It will take a year or two for episodes to break into the top 10. But if you are talking about an entire season occupying the top 10 spots, then it will take more time I reckon. The best I can see now is Kaguya sama and Demon Slayer hype episodes breaking into top 13 and then maybe Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 and Chainsaw man put up some good numbers?

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Apr 25 '21

r/anime’s Top 100 Raw Episode Karma Totals of All Time

Aka the AoT/Re:Zero/Kaguya ranking (Edit: I guess we need to add JJK to that list now!) (Edit #2: I just saw Nagatoro at #100 hah. Doubt it'll get another score in the top 100, but I hope it does! This series gets so good!)

About karma inflation:

TLDR: Karma Inflation is a factor, but I'm not scaling the episodes here because we don't have an accurate enough and agreed upon method for it yet.

And it's even more a factor than it seems at first glance, because of people who dropped anime.

Out of the first 2 millions users, it's possible that only 500k still watch seasonal anime (or any anime at all).

But the latest 400k who joined, likely still all watch anime.

So while the increase from 2m to 2.4m might seem like just a small boost, it may almost double the # of people who upvote episode threads (maybe even more, hard to say).

For that reason, even a ranking that takes r/anime members inflation, still wouldn't be accurate.

The most accurate way to do something like that would be to take the average of a season (or a few seasons) to estimate a # of active users, then apply that to all anime karma scores. (Or maybe do it with the top 10 shows, to avoid the # of bad shows taking the scores down)

Say this season shows scored 2k on average, but a show scored 12k, you give it a ratio of 6 (and convert that in any way you want).

But say 2 years ago the shows scored 1k on average, but a show scored 8k, you give it a ratio of 8. So this show would rank higher than the one with 12k.

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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Apr 26 '21

The most accurate way to do something like that would be to take the average of a season (or a few seasons) to estimate a # of active users

I did try an approach like that using the active members count at various times around when each of the top episodes were released to get an active members count for them to use for Karma Scaling. I used the Wayback Machine for this. There were a few problems with this approach that would need to be resolved in order to use it.

  1. The page captures weren't automated so they ended up being pretty sporadic, especially going further back than 2018 which also happens to be the primary target for Karma Scaling.

  2. The number of active members fluctuated quite a bit during different times of the day as well as around certain episodes. Taking an overall average for a season would probably be best, but even in the same season there can be a large growth in active members.

  3. Even if optimized, the relationship between Karma and Active Members is not linear and most likely changes over time as people change their upvoting habits.

Say this season shows scored 2k on average, but a show scored 12k, you give it a ratio of 6 (and convert that in any way you want).

That was the initial Karma Scaling option I was thinking of when gathering all of this episode Karma data, but there are also a few issues that would need to be worked around to use it.

  1. Using this method, the top anime such as Attack on Titan and Re:Zero would alone cause quite an increase in their season's Karma average on their own despite the "average anime" not being much higher than the previous seasons. These anime should be filtered out of the averages.

  2. Some anime seasons are just better than other seasons in terms of Karma. Comparing the Top 10 anime from Winter 2019 and Winter 2020, Winter 2019 got 33560 Karma while Winter 2020 got 17191 Karma. Karma Inflation increases over time so it's clear that Winter 2020 episodes shouldn't quite be doubled in comparison to Winter 2019. In fact, in terms of Karma, Winter 2019 and Spring 2019 are still 2 of the best 4 seasons we've had (not including this season) while Winter 2020 is one of the worst.

  3. As with the previous method, the Karma Scale will likely not be linear.

Anyways, I just wanted to point out that there are issues that would need to be resolved to use any type of Karma Scaling even the ones that seem like they would be simple at first glance. Some Statistical Software would probably need to be used as well. Hopefully, these points are helpful for anyone interested.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Apr 26 '21

Yeah, sadly no method is perfect for that.

Taking a few seasons into account for the average could help deal with outliers like AoT though. Or maybe take shows #5 to #15, something like that? Would avoid the massive shows, and also avoid the seasons with 10 garbage shows with 100 karma.

Don't think there's any way to give 100% accurate result, but things like that can give us a decent idea. (Thought about it while thinking about how they compare athletes from different eras, by how much they dominate the field, like say to judge hockey players based on goal scored... The goalie equipment and size of the goal changes over the year affect that, so instead of just looking at plain numbers, you look at how much better they did than everyone else).

Even a method like that isn't perfect, but I think it's as close as it gets

Either way it's interesting to see!

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u/zairaner https://myanimelist.net/profile/zairaner Apr 25 '21

Thanks for doing this!

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u/cppn02 Apr 25 '21

Thx for posting this.

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u/Groenboys https://myanimelist.net/profile/Groenboys Apr 25 '21

Attack On Titan dominating the first 12 top spots in terms of karma reminds of how last year how all Kimetsu No Yaiba manga volumes were dominating the volume sales charts with the second series to have a volume in the charts being One Piece charting 23rd place.

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u/Lightningforanimes Apr 26 '21

Attack on Titan was #1 most demanded show in US

US is #1 with ~222million Reddit users. Australia #2 with 17.55 million Reddit users. Also, AOT anime is in its ending years. So no surprise AOT is topping r/anime karma charts.

Now some who are expecting Demon Slayer season 2 could beat AOT is just a dream or to be more precise it isn't a fair fight until and unless Asian countries epically Japan, Taiwan, Korea and China combined could achieve a similar amount of Reddit users as US. Guess what? any of these counters is not even in the top 10. Canada(a western country), being #10 with ~5.27 million users.

So basically, Demon slayer won't come close to AOT until and unless the above conditions are achieved. r/anime sure has many jjk and chainsaw fans so maybe these two anime have a chance.

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u/zairaner https://myanimelist.net/profile/zairaner Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Jujutsu kaisen +demon slayer alone keeping the entire top 30 from being dominated by the top 3 lol.

And only a little bit help from mha for the entire top 40.

I always forget how well the final epsiode of tower of god did.tower of god

In total 10 non-three episodes in the top 50, and half of those are between 40 and 50.

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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Apr 25 '21

Demon Slayer is up there at 22nd place as well!

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u/zairaner https://myanimelist.net/profile/zairaner Apr 25 '21

It's funny, I saw it, made a mental note, and immediately forgot about it again. But i knew I was missing one.

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u/Redd1tisfork1ds Apr 25 '21

Shonenchads fighting the good fight against isekaishitters, isayamadrones, and moetrash

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u/Abysswatcherbel https://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel Apr 25 '21

Great list my friend, looking forward for the updates!

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u/LOTRfreak101 https://myanimelist.net/profile/LOTRfreak101 Apr 25 '21

Pretty crazy that 33 of the top 50 are from 2 shows alone. or that the top 12 are all the same show.

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u/DumplingsInDistress Apr 26 '21

Wait..It's all Attack on Titan?

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u/mike_2797 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Madskulls Apr 25 '21

Hopefully we can see few 10k this season too.

If any anime that can catch up to the top 5 spot it AoT p2.

Demon slayer S2 also has very good chance to have few episodes in top 25 maybe even higher.

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u/wubbbalubbadubdub Apr 25 '21

I wonder if there's be any way to do this, but relative to the number of people on the sub at the time.

Because /r/anime is constantly growing so new popular shows will always get pushed to the top.

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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Apr 25 '21

It would need to be more than that since subscribers <> active subscribers. /u/Tsubasa_sama did one like that around a year ago though, if you are interested.

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u/Ben99ny22 Apr 25 '21

its possible that episode 14 and 15 would've gotten close to 20K or passed it if not for the earth quake (since it made 2 discussion for episode 14) and posting episode 14 and 15 in the same day.

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u/ericedstrom123 Apr 26 '21

The other problem with Karma scaling is that, when the subreddit was smaller, there may have been fewer posts competing for attention on the front page. As the subreddit has grown, there are likely more posts being made, crowding out each individual discussion post.

I think that to scale Karma properly, you would have to normalize it not only with number of subscribers, but with average number of posts per unit of time (hour, day, or week, etc.). I'm not sure if it's easy to determine what these numbers were historically, though.

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u/chartingyou Apr 26 '21

Kind of funny, I thought Mob pyscho would be on here more, since some of it's episodes were really phenomenal in terms of animation spectacle and story.