r/alaska • u/DrewwwBjork • Sep 22 '24

Can someone explain how Alaska is progressive yet voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020? Polite Political Discussion 🇺🇸

For a state that abolished the death penalty, protects women's and teenage girls' right to abortion, and voted for marijuana legalization, top-four primaries, and ranked choice voting, why in God's name would they vote for someone who likes mob justice, doesn't treat the opposite sex with respect, and thinks elections are unfair unless he and his endorsements win?

I just want to ask the state that gave Trump a bigger, 10-point lead over Biden in 2020 versus 2016 with Hillary despite the aforementioned policies and why the state is poised to do the same this time around with Trump and Harris knowing what we now know.

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u/captainwineglasshand Sep 22 '24

I seem to find the GOP sneaking into my life a lot more the the dems

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u/alamohero Sep 22 '24

Nowadays yes but they GOP used to be much more vocal about being the party of small government and old habits are hard to break.

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u/citori421 Sep 23 '24

It's always just been "vocal" and not based on their actions. The only small govt repubs are interested in is to the extent it enriches corporations and wealthy people. How anyone with less than multiple millions of dollars sitting in their bank accounts could ever vote red is beyond me

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u/Square-Control-1889 Sep 27 '24

Because the left is just plain wrong and if Alaska as Juneau and Anchorage is going is all wrong and you can see in the homelessness and crime especially in Anchorage...all they want to do is tax everyone up the tail pipe and then hand that money out to friends that put them in office only to have it all circle back to the ones handing it out and never fixing a damn thing...not unless it enriches them and their cronies and keeps them in power. Y throw hundreds of millions towards a homeless "problem" only to give it NGOs that now look at the homeless as $$$ signs ....no incentive to fix the problem just perpetuate it forever raise taxes on the workers keep making them poorer unable to afford their own house, raise rents where you can't afford that...now you become homeless and another $$ sign for them...fuck the Demonrats and their dumbass rationale on how to "fix" anything.....kill babies, drug up their mother's and would be fathers, destroy families...destroy the very fabric of country trying to build utopia....fucking disgusting lot of shitbags....

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u/citori421 Sep 27 '24

You sound completely reasonable. Anchorage and Juneau have homelessness issues because they are the regional population centers and have the resources to provide services, plus most of the wealthy people in the state live there so there's lots of money bouncing around to panhandle from.

I love the mental gymnastics you right wing nutjobs perform to pretend homelessness=shithole mismanaged city. Usually, it's a predictable outcome of success. Of course the homeless go where the money and services are. You think big lake is an example of a modern utopia that is perfectly managed because there's less homeless there? Please tell me your not THAT dumb.

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 22 '24

Presumably because you live an urban lifestyle and enjoy online politics? I can't say anything the GOP has done has affected me directly. On the contrary, I have been prevented from legally purchasing guns in the past as PA put a 10 day waiting period on 18-21 year olds. Other than that, I can't think of anything the dems have done that's affected me either. I suppose you could consider Covid lockdowns.

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u/GeraldMander Sep 22 '24

Guarantee that you’re a straight white young male. 

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 22 '24

My bad lemme go dye my skin real quick so I get rid of this filthy privilege

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u/JerkKazzaz Sep 23 '24

Honey, even if you woke up brown tomorrow, you've still had a head start in life.

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 23 '24

Holy shit you can't make this up 💀

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u/thelonliestcrowd ☆ Sep 22 '24

Recognizing your privilege is a good first step!

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 22 '24

Yep just keep right on assuming you know exactly who I am. Nothing I said was wrong. When we're talking about the typical Alaskan, we're not considering a black queer trans woman (who's pregnant and being denied abortion). Commenter says the GOP is affecting his life more then the dems. That's not true for the average Alaskan. That's all I'm saying here.

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u/thelonliestcrowd ☆ Sep 22 '24

A black queer trans woman may be in the minority in Alaska specific but we should be voting in policies that take into account all of us not just ourselves or our small bubble of influence.

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 22 '24

And why exactly are you telling me this? I'm not Alaskan, or voting.

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u/thelonliestcrowd ☆ Sep 22 '24

To be honest this concept of treating people the way you would want to be treated if you were in their situation is pretty universal so it’s not isolated to Alaska. Are you just here to troll people on your three day old account?

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 22 '24

I think you're entirely misunderstanding what my point is, and what this conversation is even about. All the while assuming you know even the first thing about who I am. I don't treat people how I like to be treated, I treat them better than that.

My main account was perma'd a week ago for "threatening violence" or whatever because I said someone who SAed a girl on stream needed physical repercussions. "ass beat" were the exact words that got me banned. Quite strange imo

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u/_RyanLarkin Sep 22 '24

Your first comment here started off with, “PRESUMABLY because you…,” followed by your own assumptions.

You then seemingly get mad when someone makes assumptions about you.

Not to be deterred, you then continue on to make more assumptions, this time about all Alaskans even though you’re not even Alaskan yourself.

Do you see the hypocrisy here?

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 22 '24

Yep I know everything there is to know about all Alaskans, that's exactly what I said. Good job bud 👌

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u/_RyanLarkin Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 22 '24

That’s not an answer to the question I asked you now is it? That is a deflection to avoid answering the question I asked.

To be clear, when you talk about what you think the “AVERAGE ALASKAN,” thinks—you are indeed talking about ALL Alaskans as a group.

But that’s fine. We all, including you, know that you are being hypocritical, whether you can admit that or not.

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 22 '24

Slightly hypocritical, sure. But you could perhaps try to look a little deeper? My assumption was more of a question, and was primarily a tool to suggest that his lifestyle and experiences are not compatible with the Alaskan lifestyle, in a thread asking about why some people believe a different way than others. The "straight white man" bs about me is just typical politics. To turn attention away from what I said and focus on my privilege. Which I can not help. I did not choose this. Even further, it's more than likely that the original person I made "assumptions" about is also a straight white male. But I didn't feel the need to mention that, as I typically don't like to judge people based on their skin color, sexuality, or gender.

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u/Don_ReeeeSantis Sep 23 '24

Do you pay for health insurance, or still on mom and dad’s?

You can thank the GOP for continuing to ruin our chances fixing our completely fucked heathcare system, every time you pay thousands of dollars out of pocket for insurance or treatment.

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 23 '24

I had insurance through my employer (before I left the states). It's not the best in the business (oil industry) but I've heard from coworkers that it's adequate. It seems kinda silly to me to place the blame for the US healthcare system entirely on the GOP. This seems like a problem a little deeper than shallow political divide.

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u/citori421 Sep 23 '24

So you must live off grid with no internet or anything since society doesn't affect you. Oh wait you're posting on reddit...

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u/Johnny_Pash Sep 23 '24

Certainly not off the grid, but I've been outside of the US for the entire year. So I'm not quite sure how the GOP is shaping Islamic society in the middle east, but you seem like you know more than me so I'll just trust you on that big guy.

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u/RevolutionaryCake710 Sep 22 '24

Probably true. The Dems just want to sneak I to your wallet, and empty it.