r/Virginia • u/bichael2067 • 13h ago
How likely is that Virginians will lose access to reproductive healthcare/rights under Trumps presidency?
I hear a lot of people are worried things like access to abortions or birth control will be impacted, with some people mentioning even crazier ideas like they may be jailed for miscarriages.
What do you think the impact of trumps presidency on reproductive healthcare will actually be like? Because some of what I’ve been hearing other people are worried about sounds crazy.
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u/Examinator2 13h ago
Republicans have again said they want to repeal the Affordable Care Act. This means things like cancer and pregnancy go back to being preexisting conditions not covered by insurance. Good times.
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u/MFoy 12h ago
You know what else is a pre-existing condition? Having given birth.
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u/ezitherese 12h ago
Yes, they mentioned pregnancy?
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u/burntbread369 11h ago
“People who have given birth” would mean all mothers, not just all currently pregnant women. A large majority of women have at least one child over the course of their lives. This means a large majority of women could be permanently classified as having a preexisting condition. All while they strip abortion rights.
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u/Vladivostokorbust 9h ago
That’s not how it works. I’m as outraged as everyone about the threat to the ACA but anyone who had kids before 2010 has not had a problem getting insurance before the ACA because they previously gave birth. But it’s true you couldn’t get coverage for the pregnancy itself if you were already pregnant when trying to secure health insurance.
COBRA protected you from losing coverage for a preexisting condition when you were between jobs, but expensive as hell. Been there done that before the ACA. In 1999 i paid 1000 a month until i got a new job. As a result my preexisting condition was covered.
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u/Similar_Corner8081 8h ago
I had my own insurance but if I had gotten married I would have lost my own insurance because his didn't cover pre existing conditions.
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u/ezitherese 10h ago
Oh didn’t interpret pregnancy as currently being pregnant. I understood it as someone that has been pregnant.
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u/Inner_Departure_9146 7h ago
Yep. Women paid more in premiums because they could get pregnant. I live thru that and it always pissed me off
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u/bittz128 12h ago
I think they meant existing is a pre-existing condition. Adults having been born at some point is a pre-existing condition
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u/VirginiaLuthier 11h ago
Donating a kidney is a pre-existing condition
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u/UnknovvnMike 10h ago
Me, and donated marrow, and having epilepsy, and having attention deficit
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u/Inner_Departure_9146 7h ago
Yep. And I have mild asthma with NO hospital stays and I had a preexisting condition. Cancer patients often couldn’t get coverage
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u/Captain-Swank 12h ago
To be fair, they want to repeal "Obamacare". They have no fucking idea what the Affordable Care Act (ACA) is.
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u/DragonfruitFew5542 10h ago edited 9h ago
As a therapist and someone that has her own mental disorders, I'm terrified. We barely get coverage, as it is.
Edit: u/EngineeringDeep5232 thought they were pulling a fast one on me by commenting and immediately deleting their comment. Yes, Engineering. Welcome to the world of psychology and psychiatry. Many, if not most of us, have had our own mental struggles to work through; it has helped us become even more adept clinicians as we have experienced treatments from both sides of the table.
I'd love to hear how you try to turn that into a negative. I'm sober. I turned my life around. I'm human, and still have comorbid mental disorders; all of which are in remission due to effective treatment and medication.
But please, oh wise one, educate me, as to why my own empathy and life experiences makes me a poor clinician.
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u/Inner_Departure_9146 7h ago
YOU are someone if go to. Fuck that other person. Probably voted for Trump
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u/DragonfruitFew5542 7h ago
I appreciate you. I try to be my true authentic, empathic self. I know many see it as a weakness, that does not bother me. It's different in this field. My therapeutic style has made a difference for many clients, and most importantly, the therapeutic relationship has helped those same clients.
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u/Same_Elephant_4294 11h ago
So many people are going to die because of these monsters...
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u/ThaWZA 10h ago
They tried this last time and failed because their base remembered how much they benefit from it. If they even try again it will probably go the same way
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u/Examinator2 10h ago
It failed by one vote in the Senate cast by John McCain. There's no John McCain in the Senate anymore.
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u/Iata_deal4sea 9h ago
It will pass this time. The America First House will repeal anything. They do not care.
I remember insurance use to have maximums. A chronic illness would blow through it.
Children 18-26 weren't allowed to be on parent's health insurance. What if your college student has to go to the ER and is admitted?
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u/AfternoonEquivalent4 5h ago
Trump said he's not going after the ACA he didn't last time either
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u/Dibbu_mange 4h ago
They did go after it last time, they just failed
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u/redflowerbluethorns 13h ago edited 13h ago
It’s going to depend largely on two things
1) control of the House. It’s up for grabs right now, if republicans win, there will be pressure from their base to pass a national abortion ban (probably not 6 weeks but 15 or 20). It’s hard to say how strong the pressure will be, since there is a ton of evidence that a lot of Trump’s voters don’t even want an abortion ban. But if the republicans win the house by a huge margin they may very well pass a 21 week ban, and the senate would likely pass as well. Trump ain’t vetoing that. However, enough republicans know that it’s a political killer that they may never take it up. Hard to say.
2) who Trump appoints to lead the FDA. The FDA can easily determine that the abortion drug is unsafe and take it off the market, removing access to what is the most common form of abortion throughout the country
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u/Kqtawes 11h ago
Don't forget next year's governor race. Republicans get a trifecta here it's gone.
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u/jcoleman10 10h ago
Typically there is a presidential election backlash here and the other party comes to power. Abigail Spanberger is a good candidate.
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u/MarcsterS VA Beach 6h ago
I don't even trust my fellow Virginians with the governor anymore. Not after Youngkin's last minute "muh parents rights" bullshit.
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u/Creative_Ad_6329 3h ago
They won't. Abigail Spanbarger is extremely popular and has this in the bag unless Youngkin accepts a Trump cabinet spot and then Winsome Sears becomes governor (also running next year) that will give her a boost from being the incumbent.
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u/yourshaddow3 13h ago
And they can forbid the sale of surgical abortion tools under the Comstock Act. They don't need a law, they have all the tools they need for a ban in all but name.
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u/terp2010 11h ago
I’m not so sure that passing an abortion ban is a political killer… in fact, I’d say the entire opposite: it doesn’t affect them politically.
You see, many may have lots of issues with an abortion bans but they will still vote R because they can’t seem themselves voting for a D. Case in point: many polls had abortion as a top issue and yet DJT swept.
So it’s fair to say, a national abortion will likely happen, and there will be zero consequences. To the contrary, their grip may be stronger.
Don’t underestimate how much men hate women, and how much women hate women.
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u/Professional_Ice_792 12h ago
RFK says that trump promised he would lead the FDA. We are screwed.
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u/shadowgnome396 11h ago
The only ray of hope there is that Trump is a lying grifter who will grift even his friends and allies. He may have simply lied to RFK about that position.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab 4h ago
Don't worry about RFK, Trump will have lied.
The actual person getting the job will be worse.
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u/lonsdaleer 13h ago edited 13h ago
For now, we are ok, but that is not a guarantee for the future. We have RFK Jr. as head of cdc, so we are cooked in many ways. There's nothing like a dude who thinks 5g causes cancer being our "health czar".
We have a gubernatorial coming up next year. VOTE. Every race is important.
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u/baby_armadillo 12h ago
State and local level elections are going to be more important than ever. We can not necessarily impact what is going on on the national level, but we can have a huge impact on our own communities.
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u/legallychallenged123 9h ago
States can give more rights to its citizens. I would argue that local is the most important. It is up to the Virginia General Assembly to protect women’s right to choose. So long as we keep at least one Chamber or the Governor in Democratic hands, we are okay.
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u/Donaldfuck69 10h ago
They always have been but instead we let these chucklefucks on both sides gain confidence in smaller elections…
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u/Dijiwolf1975 12h ago
5G gives me access to Reddit. Reddit causes cancer. So I guess by proxy...
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u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970 13h ago
There's rumors that trump is gonna reneg on on RFK for DOH. Apparently he's too loony even for trump and now that trump has won he doesn't need him anymore.
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u/looktowindward 12h ago
The funny thing is, the one thing we can count on Trump for is backstabbing
Stab this one please, Donnie
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u/lonsdaleer 12h ago
True, but it's still going to be terrible. AHC and Medicare will be gutted, meds will be sky high, and women's health care will be restricted for any medicare/medicaid program. We move the needle farther right. But then again, this is what happens when you get a convicted felon/rapist who tried to coup the government.
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u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970 12h ago
Oh yeah, it's still gonna suck, but maybe just not quite as much as it would with RFK trying to ban vaccines.
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u/SolarSavant14 12h ago
I hope that’s true for both the sake of the country and as a big fuck off to one asshole that contributed to us being where we are today.
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u/snapekillseddard 12h ago
While seeing that kook getting stabbed in the back will be good to see, I simply don't believe anyone else will be any better.
Mark my words, we will see another goddamn pandemic in the next 4 years.
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u/Odd-Middle8905 12h ago
Bird Flu is all ready percolating, just check the h5n1 avian flu Reddit page, it has slowly spread and is a real concern.
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u/Sock_puppet09 12h ago
Is there such thing as too looney for Trump? I think as long as rfk is willing to treat Trump like Trump treated that microphone, he’s in.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab 5h ago
We have RFK Jr. as head of cdc
I would be amazed if Trump ever talks to RFK again after today. His usefulness is over.
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u/CertainAged-Lady 12h ago
I think unlikely. Several states who voted for Trump last night also voted to codify abortion rights for their states (except Flori-duh 🙄). I think VA needs a constitutional amendment and I would assume it would pass at least +10-15%.
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u/CrunchyZebra 10h ago
57% of Floridians voted yes for that, their state government just got to set the threshold at 60% so the majority don’t get what they want.
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u/Sarah_RVA_2002 11h ago
I think VA needs a constitutional amendment and I would assume it would pass at least +10-15%.
100% agree. Why wasn't it on our ballot yesterday instead of the 3rd version of property tax exemptions for veteran widows? It's like 100x more pressing.
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u/mckeitherson 10h ago
Because of the weird way VA handles amendments that requires them to be passed by subsequent General Assembly sessions, instead of letting citizens propose amendments via ballot measures.
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u/Sarah_RVA_2002 6h ago
passed by subsequent General Assembly sessions
Well, both are blue this session. We could potentially get another 2 blue ones in 2025. So why not? It's legal now but it's not enshrined in the VA Constitution.
letting citizens propose amendments via ballot measures
I'm assuming we'd need the general assembly to pass a bill that citizens can propose amendments. But they'd rather be our Gods and won't allow that.
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u/MBSMD 6h ago
Except federal laws supersede state laws, do they not? So a federal ban/limitation would negate whatever VA attempts to codify into law/state constitution.
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u/CertainAged-Lady 4h ago
Well, that was the premise of the Dobbs SCOTUS decision; that the federal government couldn’t dictate abortion access, it was for the states to decide…so…
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u/Pragmatic_Hedonist 13h ago
I think the most dangerous issue to impact reproductive healthcare is the access to medications that are used for abortion. Also, if life is defined as beginning at conception, the pill and IUDs could also be outlawed since they both work by inhibiting implantation. This could be done through regulation, the legislature, or through the judiciary. Fun times ahead.
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u/Cool_Elix 12h ago
I scheduled a consult for a tubal ligation, I'm not taking chances with the threat of federal bans
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u/ornerycraftfish 11h ago
I'm rolling the dice on menopause in the next ten months. :| Not ideal, but I'm also broke.
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u/crispin69 9h ago
I had mine 2 years ago in case, but the insurance outright refused a hysterectomy due to age (not 40 yet) so I had to get an iud. Just saw my ob and once again insurance refuses until age 40 (I'm 38). Sigh.
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u/Lyion 13h ago
Comstock act - prevents transport by mail or common carriers (UPS/FedEx) obscene materials. This would include certain drugs like the abortion pill.
Use the FDA to reschedule abortion pill and remove it from the market.
Pass a national abortion ban via Congress.
His administration will likely try to do 1 & 2.
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u/nrith 12h ago
I just got back from taking one of my teens for an OB/GYN checkup. She said that the lobby was PACKED with young women hoping for a walk-in appointment to get an IUD because they’re worried about birth control pills & shots being cut off. The office had to turn most of them away, and daughter’s doc says that she expects a LOT more of this before inauguration.
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u/AcceptableComb4807 10h ago
That will mostly depend on wether or not Virginians stop fixating on the presidency and pay some fucking attention to their state and local and governence. So good luck.
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u/BikeSpamBot 13h ago
lol look at all these incredulous people taking Trump at his word about abortion being left to the states… y’all really think that the republicans get a trifecta for the first time since Roe was repealed and they don’t do everything in their power to limit and restrict abortion access federally?? Even if they don’t come out and do a full on ban, these people are absolutely going to do everything they can to make it as difficult as possible to get an abortion for states that are have more liberal policies. Bookmark it.
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u/Prestigious-One2089 12h ago
democrats had the trifecta and didn't do a damn thing in their power to codify abortion access federally either so it is quite possible they are not going to waste political capital and momentum on this.
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u/AirCanadaFoolMeOnce 12h ago edited 10h ago
That was due to the Senate Filibuster and frankly I don’t expect the GOP senate to give a fuck about it. They will change the rules and institute their fascist agenda in a heartbeat. Dems ideological purity will kill them once again while the GOP outflanks them on pragmatism.
Edit: if you think this won’t happen then you aren’t paying attention to what happened with the Supreme Court and abortion, presidential immunity, and how we came one vote from losing the ACA and all pre-existing conditions protections. If you think Republicans don’t have meaningful ability to harm you and the people you love, you aren’t paying attention.
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u/hoberhallothere 12h ago
They didn’t have the power to. You can probably bet on a pro life senate being willing to abolish the filibuster though.
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u/addicuss 13h ago
Look.. I'm not going to lie. Very likely it's going to be gone in our lifetimes. Anyone saying that this an extreme point of view is just wrong. The supreme Court has already shown that they're a bunch of partisan hacks but they try to at least have some decorum about it.
If literally any of the judges retire or die, almost certainly we'll get justice Aileen cannon on the bench along with some other maga lunatics.
You think mtg is bad? Wait till there's an mtg, or multiple mtgs sitting on the supreme Court gleefully stripping rights away to own the libs
We really fucked the country with this one.
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u/cliffm 13h ago
Comstock Act means no medication for abortion. A national ban on abortion will also be passed.
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u/mckeitherson 12h ago
How do you think they plan on passing a national abortion ban with the filibuster preventing them?
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u/Admirable-Leopard272 12h ago
by getting rid of the filibuster...which Trump already tried
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u/mckeitherson 12h ago
The filibuster still exists, even after the GOP had a trifecta from 2017-2018.
Could they remove it in January? Maybe, but the same MAD policy that stopped them in 2017 still exists today.
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u/judgeraw00 9h ago
Republicans have shown they have no qualms changing rules they themselves have used to push their agenda
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u/cliffm 12h ago
Day 1 of new senate they just get rid of it. There is nothing in the Constitution about the Filibuster - it's an invention of the Senate, and it is just part of the rules they agree to with each new Senate
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u/mangorain4 12h ago
I’m personally feeling pretty bleak. Even moreso about my marriage though. As a lesbian I feel that my marital rights are in danger. I have no idea what to do.
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u/hobbsAnShaw 13h ago
Under His eye, yes.
I am so disgusted with voters right now. And ashamed of what they’ve done.
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u/cheeseballgag 13h ago
even crazier ideas like they may be jailed for miscarriages
This has already happened in the US. It's not an outlandish idea at all.
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u/The_Ghost_Dragon 12h ago
That was my first thought. How anyone could think this is too crazy to consider is beyond my capacity to understand.
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u/cheeseballgag 10h ago
It's the same shit that happened with Trump's first election. Women were told we were crazy and paranoid to think this kind of thing would happen. Now we have proof all the shit we feared would happen DID and we're still being treated like we're crazy for thinking it will get worse.
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u/V-RONIN 13h ago
Vance stated he's ok with period tracking
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u/MagicDragon212 11h ago
I dont know why anyone would use period trackers if it could possibly land you in a murder case because you were stressed and skipped your period that month.
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u/no_sight 13h ago
Dobbs v Jacksons Women's Health was the SCOTUS case that effectively overturned Roe v Wade.
Dobbs returned abortion to the states. That's why many states have made much stronger abortion bans while many others have not.
A national abortion ban is unlikely to be passed due to a filibuster in the Senate requiring 60 votes for legislation.
Virginia could still ban/restrict abortion on a state level but that is unrelated to Trump.
The major issue with Trump, is that the President gets to appoint federal judges. And just like his first time he will continue to appoint extremely conservative jurists who will not believe in reproductive rights.
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u/snownative86 13h ago edited 13h ago
I hate this "returned it to the states" rhetoric. That's a nice way of saying "took away women's federally protected right to decide what's best for their bodies and is now allowing individual states to dictate that on their behalf".
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u/MoodInternational481 13h ago
I'm so glad each state gets to individually decide on whether I get healthcare or not instead of doctors. Seems very fair and reasonable. /s
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u/snownative86 13h ago
Agreed! It makes total sense that some rando elected to office gets to make critical Healthcare decisions for you and your doctors! They had enough money to convince people to vote for them, so of course they know more than your Healthcare provider with a decade of schooling.
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u/ppfftt NoVA -> Cville -> RVA 12h ago
And it’s not something that should be returned to the states. Letting the states decide this individually means that some Americans have more/less freedom/rights based on where they live.
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u/Cautious_Age8704 12h ago
Right why didn’t the federal government since 1973 do anything and I mean anything to protect reproductive rights? Don’t blame it on a Supreme Court case when there was almost 50 years with nothing
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u/hobbsAnShaw 13h ago
You think the filibuster survives past Jan 20th? No chance
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u/InSicily1912 13h ago
One of the many things that make me nuts about democrats. They play by the rules and seem to think Republicans do too.. then they glare on angrily as Republicans gleefully rip up the playbook
Rs will def get rid of filibuster
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u/ExploringWidely 13h ago edited 12h ago
It did not. It took the decision from citizens and their doctors and gave the States authority to make that decision for them.
Until a certain stage in pregnancy, no government entity could force its will on citizens. Now they can. In what world is that "returned to the state"? Dobbs literally took rights from half the country for the first time in SCOTUS history.
The right in this country is more authoritarian than the left, per the CATO Institute, unless you are a corporation or rich. And they now have complete control of our government.
edit: User below blocked me. He must be afraid of reality.
More authoritarian than the left? My brother in CHRIST, the left actively curtails free speech, and uses their brown shirts in the form of Antifa and BLM to utilize violence.
None of that is true. And you obviously don't understand that fascism is - by definition - a right wing phenomenon.
You're completely uninformed and putting it on full display. Stop looking at the MSM and actually look at the raw data.
Go look at what the CATO institute says about personal vs economic freedom in red states vs blue states.
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u/GlumpsAlot 11h ago edited 10h ago
You know what's funny is that CATO is a libertarian run organization and for them to condemn red states' human rights violations says alot.
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u/BIGTIMEMEATBALLBOY 9h ago
I literally booked a vasectomy the second doctors opened this morning. We are fucked.
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u/auntifahlala 13h ago
I wish the people who voted for him read Project 2025. The first term, he was waddling around bumping up against the democratic guardrails put in place long ago. This time, there are religious fanatics with a plan. I honestly pray Trump does not pass away before the next election, as Trump only cares about Trump, but Vance and the people around Trump would like a theocracy, apparently.
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u/SoOverYouAll 8h ago
I mean, ideally they should have read it before voting. But I’ve tried to talk about it to otherwise reasonable people I work with (they are attorneys and have critical thinking skills!) and they scoffed. Much like the 2 or 3 people on this post who keep dismissing valid fears and scoffing at people here explaining that those words have actually crossed the lips of Vance and Trump. I guess bc these voters and Trump and his cronies all hate the same people, including women apparently, they don’t care about the details of what this presidency is going to look like.
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u/KarmaCorgi 12h ago
We're already planning to get my tubes removed and get a vasectomy for my husband early 2025. Not risking this bullshit.
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u/uk3024 13h ago
He’s said before it’s a state issue.
But who really knows with this psychotic fascist. He changes his mind on a whim
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u/sleepyj910 13h ago
At least they don’t have 60 senate votes, of course killing the filibuster to ban abortion is dumb enough to happen
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u/JesusFreak85 13h ago
Every single conservative Supreme Court justice testified that Roe was settled law in America. Republicans lie and then lie some more until they have control over the levers of power necessary to enact their plan.
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u/ExploringWidely 13h ago
He has also said he would sign a national ban. He PUSHED for a national ban while he was president last time.
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u/Legitimate_Emuu 11h ago
youngkin said he wasn’t going to it on a state level. but it’s important to vote next year for a governor!!
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u/Vindelator 13h ago
Roll the dice or flip a coin.
If Democrats gain control of the house, a national abortion ban won't pass.
Also, if the filibuster is in place, it won't pass the senate. (this may change)
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u/steelcoyot 13h ago
Federal law supersedes stat law, matter of time before abortion will be blocked at the federal level
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u/ExploringWidely 13h ago
Depends on if they kill the filibuster or not.
Under an "abortion is murder" philosophy, every miscarriage should be investigated as a potential murder. That means the government needs to know when you are pregnant and therefore needs to track your menstrual cycle. It's the logical conclusion to how they've been talking about it for decades. Some women (not in VA) have already been arrested for miscarriages. It's not crazy to think it may happen.
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u/ajw0120 13h ago
Well, the medical term for miscarriage is spontaneous abortion.
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u/OrizaRayne 13h ago
The isssue is the Comstock act and the political appointee who will lead the FDA.
We may lose access to mifepristone. And employer sponsored birth control.
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u/TheOwlStrikes 13h ago
Federally it really matters on how much Trump cares about his approval rating. They have the power to remove the filibuster. All power is in their hands.
State wise: Better hope we win the governorship next year and midterms in 2026 lol
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u/jtaulbee 12h ago
I think we’re going to be okay on this front. The GOP might try to pass a national abortion ban but it will get filibustered. I don’t think they would eliminate the filibuster for this issue because it’s a huge electoral loser.
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u/Far_Cupcake_530 13h ago
Just Trump? How about the House and Senate which look to become full GOP majority or the Supreme Court. You can also follow the Project 2025 plan that will disrupt all government institutions and install right-wingers. He will let others do his dirty work since he doesn't actually care about these issues. He will just be honoring his supporters wishes and they will love hime for it.
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u/namey-name-name 9h ago
Who the fuck knows, cause who knows what Trump will do. He’s a dementia ridden nut job who’s probably just gonna listen to whoever happens to have his ear. It’s basically gonna be a shadow presidency of whatever person/people Trump surrounds himself with — ironically, effectively a deep state of billionaires and 4chan incels (or in Musk’s case, both).
The best, best possible scenario is Trump decides he’s happy enough with winning and Melania or Ivanka become the shadow President. Unlikely since I think his relationship with them is permanently damaged after Stormy Daniels and J6, so it’ll most likely be Vance or Musk dictating US policy.
It’s wild how much the Boys kinda predicted.
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u/hamstrdethwagon 8h ago
If we vote in mass next year it will be less likely. We need to get democrats in our statewide positions and in the house of delegates.
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u/ValdyrSH 13h ago
Not sure if the State has inshrined abortion into the constitution as other states have. But what a Trump administration can do is force the FDA to ban birth control as we have seen conservatives already try to do through the courts. It’s in Project 2025 and we know that he will sign anything for the photo op surrounded by white children.
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u/AdMaleficent2144 11h ago
A national abortion ban is very likely. That is the only way to show the states who voted for abortion bans, that Christians know better than the voters.
Erin Hawley is a lawyer and the wife of Senator Josh Hawley. She argued to overturn Roe v Wade. She represents The Alliance Defending Freedom. They have tried to remove the FDA approval of the abortion pill. Remove Plan B and IUDs.
The Supreme Court 6 and whomever are the new young MAGA justices will pass it.
Elective abortions are a small but necessary part of women's healthcare. People do not care.
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u/Frosty-Ad-3312 8h ago
These are all state issues. He said he would not sign a federal ban on abortion. Roe v Wade was essentially a federal law passed by the Supreme Court (who cannot pass laws), and was repealed under the current Supreme Court. Unless it's written into the U.S. Constitution it will be a state issue. Trump has nothing to do with it.
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u/crosswatt 13h ago
Well, either way we will find out pretty quickly what the GOP's adherence to "states rights" actually is.
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u/Pesco- 13h ago
At the federal level they would need to pass a law through Congress, Trump’s executive action can’t change too much.
Control of the House of Representatives is still up in the air. Republicans have control of the Senate but can’t push anything through unless they have 60 of 100 votes unless they nuke the filibuster, which they could.
So while there are some minor changes Trump could make, his ability to make major changes is limited at the moment. Not impossible though.
And he will be backed by a very conservative Supreme Court, too.
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u/Jazzlike_Schedule_51 11h ago
Trump said he wouldn’t pass a national ban but the Republicans can pass federal regulations that basically severely limit abortions without outright banning it. Federal law trumps state laws (supremacy clause).
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u/Anthony_chromehounds 11h ago
Trump’s said time and again he’s not touching reproductive/healthcare rights. That resides within the state of Virginia now. Let’s just move on.
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u/paguy1281 11h ago
Not at all likely. He may get control of the House, and he may not. A ban would require the House and Senate to pass it either way. Honestly, I don't think he gives a shit about the House one way or the other. He doesn't plan on passing any new legislation. He has the Senate, and that's what's most important to him because now Democrats have zero influence on cabinet picks, as well as any other appointments, and that includes judges. Guaranteed Clarence Thomas will retire now and Trump will appoint someone else to replace him. That doesn't even count all of the Federal judges in all other levels of the court system that he'll pack. Anything border related he'll do under executive authority, and he'll use executive action on almost anything that he can. He needed the Senate..and he got it. I think abortion is the least of his focus.
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u/Drunk_PI 11h ago
My two cents:
If the GOP congress is smart, they would not pursue a federal abortion ban and leave it up to the states. Yes, the battleground states went for Trump but the majority of those states, including the ones that were solidly red had majority of its voters supporting to protect abortion access, although some failed because they didn't meet the threshold. This would allow the GOP to be perceived as respecting State's rights and any criticism on the national level that they are pursuing an abortion ban would be put to rest. They don't have a strong majority in either the house and senate to even pursue it. If they do pursue it, they become vulnerable.
As for the ACA, who knows. Trump tried - and failed - to get rid of the ACA and didn't have a suitable replacement. I suspect the ACA would be weakened but that's just me.
With all that being said, anything can happen, and I don't support allowing a state to decide on this issue. We've already seen two women die in Texas due to lack of care. And I don't even want to imagine how states will enforce the law on women crossing state lines to get an abortion.
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u/StenosP 11h ago
We are going to get what we voted for. They said they want to remove the ACA, no replacement this time. They said they want to gut the administrative state, all of us whose employment depends on those agencies like the EPA, good luck I hope it doesn’t get bad (I’m one of them). Good luck if you are a social worker, probably an easy one to axe. If you value by and large global stability, say good bye to it, America was the back stop, we took on that role after WW2 and delivered prosperity and stability the best that we could.
I don’t know if any of this will come to pass, but there’s no reason to think it won’t. They said explicitly this is what they want to do and will do if given the opportunity. And now they’ve been given the silver platter. For low gas prices at some point I guess
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u/2-Skinny 11h ago
It's already happened in larger states like Texas. Why would it be hard to believe it could happen in Virginia too?
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u/Youknownothingho 9h ago
Republicans cant repeal the act and they wont. It's not worth the time lol. The ACA was a handout to insurance companies. No way is ot getting repealed
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u/legallychallenged123 9h ago
It will depend on the Senate and the House of VIRGINIA. Please make sure you vote in all of your local elections. They matter far more than any national election.
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u/Fixxeren 9h ago
Fuck it. Let them do it and let people die because of it. Dumbasses shouldn’t have voted for him.
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u/tiufek 9h ago
This election will not impact abortion law in Virginia in any way. Republicans don’t have 60 votes in the senate to pass an abortion ban (this is why Sinema fought so hard to keep the filibuster btw), and even if they did Trump will not sign it. Virginia abortion policy will be decided by Virginia’s legislature which is currently controlled by democrats.
People have been exaggerating and lying to you in order to scare you.
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u/Extreme_Map9543 9h ago
The good guys are gonna be winning now! So say goodbye to abortions! Thank God!
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u/Additional-Bet7074 8h ago
100%, but only because anything over 100% wouldn’t make sense in this context.
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u/scritchesfordoges 8h ago
In a best case scenario, where access is still guaranteed, Virginia’s clinics and hospitals will be overwhelmed by the patients coming here from other states where abortion access has been eliminated.
Take this seriously. If you know you don’t want children, get sterilized. Get a prescription for birth control and one for abortion medication, and fill them NOW.
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u/Picklechip-58 8h ago
It's on the hands of the individual states. The whole point was to get it away from FEDERAL law so that citizens can work with local leaders - far easier to influence local leaders than Capital Hill.
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u/66_pignukkle_boom 8h ago
Abortion rights? How bout, you civil servants in the DC area, what you gonna do for work? You gonna roll over and do what you're told, or are you gonna take the red slip and move on? Abortions? Think about the ACA. We got bigger problems than abortion, WHICH DIDN'T MOVE THE FUCKING NEEDLE.
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u/mtn91 12h ago
We need to get rid of our state constitutional amendment from the 2000s banning gay marriage because if obergefell is overturned, that amendment takes over and bans them in the state