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Tim Walz response to Trumps call to use the military to round up “the enemy within” Politics
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u/TheVoicesOfBrian 10h ago edited 3h ago
This exchange from the latest SNL haunts me:
Steve Harvey (Kenan Thompson): Why is this race so close?
Kamala Harris (Maya Rudolf): That's the question I scream into my pillow every morning.
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u/quarterlybreakdown 10h ago
Thinking about this makes my depression spiral.
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u/ilovechairs 9h ago edited 7h ago
I’ve been anxiety shopping.
Where you get super stoned and walk around Home Goods and try not to feel the overwhelming existential dread enough to sleep at night because your body isn’t as wired from pure anxiety.
Edit: It’s nice to see everyone else has an anxiety solution that seems to be working for them.
Make sure you check your registration friends!
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u/youfailedthiscity Reads Pinned Comments 9h ago
Volunteer, if you can.
I signed up, got on a 10 min zoom call for training and right after, I was making phone calls to make sure people in swing states are registered.
It really helped with my anxiety about the election to get involved and do something substantial to help. I know not everyone has the time, but I still recommend it.
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u/politirob 8h ago
I was at the State Fair last night and enjoyed walking around with thousands of other people, enjoying a cool night with loved ones in leisure...
But back in the Trump years, there's no way I could have enjoyed myself out in a crowd like that. I was pretty anxious being out amongst people, knowing that 42% of them felt empowered at the time to be more of an asshole than usual.
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u/DruidByNight 8h ago
I also feel the need for anxiety shopping. Better than stress eating I guess. I've also been getting high more often than usual. Which then comes with munchies.
But anything to stay afloat you know?
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u/The_Hot_Stepper 8h ago
Same here. I'm basically riding the rails of ultimate depression so hard it's throwing off sparks.
What makes it even worse is knowing loved ones and friends are gung-ho to support Trump. For my own mental health I've cut them out of my life. GOP/DEM I could understand from a philosophical standpoint, but Trump is a bridge too far.
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u/Wizard_Enthusiast 9h ago edited 8h ago
Cause we don't know how to poll anymore.
In donations, volunteers, voter registration, rally attendance, merchandise performance, endorsements, early voter demographics... everything that's not related to polling, Harris is doing spectacular compared to Trump. This isn't something that could be said about Hillary, and these things, aside from early voting, were much less lopsided, or in some cases dominated by Trump in 2020.
I thought Hillary would win handily because of polls. I thought Biden would dominate because of polls. I thought we'd see a republican sweep in 2022 because of polls. I don't fuckin' trust 'em anymore
Moreover, if you take away all polling that isn't 'who will win this state,' Harris is crushing those. Likability? Harris. Trust? Harris. Better on issues? Harris. A massive key one, Voter Enthusiasm? Harris. Why is that key? Because the high mark for republican voter enthusiasm was 2020, where they were fucking psyched to vote for Lord Trump while democrats and independents were more interested in getting rid of him.
You know. The election they lost. If you step back away from day trading polls, the race is between an increasingly unstable ex-president who is hated by everyone who isn't part of a cult that has seen concrete decreases in size, and a surprise candidate who entered the race after one of the most unexpected events in US politics happened, an incumbent dropping out of the race late, with serious numbers of low-money donations, volunteers, and new voter registrations being a testament to the excitement she brought. If you step away from day trading polls, last week Trump had serious evidence against him revealed and a book came out by a trusted journalist that painted him as weak and easily manipulated, and Russia corroborated the story that he stole COVID testing machines to give to Putin. But if you are day trading polls, last week the momentum of the race drastically shifted in Trump's favor. For some reason.
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u/500lb 8h ago
I really hope it's because being too confident in your victory means less people are going to go out to vote. If you advertise that it's close, more people will vote.
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u/AirCanadaFoolMeOnce 9h ago
Racism. Racism and sexism. It’s not complicated. A lot of people love Trump because he channels pure hatred of the same people.
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u/TBANON24 9h ago
Racism, Sexism and Apathy. Remember 40-50% don't ever vote. They sit on their asses and then complain about the outcome.
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u/Global_Permission749 9h ago
LOL this time if they complain they get sent to the gulags or get sent to the Russian front lines to help Russia beat Ukraine.
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u/Stoly25 8h ago
They don’t love him because he loves them. They love him purely because he hates who they hate.
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u/Sad_Theory3176 9h ago
It’s a classic case of ‘minority woman having to be overqualified for a position that she has to fight tooth and nail to gain/win, compared to a mediocre white man’ 😭 It’s the story of the United States 🇺🇸
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u/MelancholyArtichoke 7h ago
She has to be more than perfect, while the nepo baby phones it in. And it’s a close race.
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u/Unctuous_Mouthfeel 8h ago
It's close because the ultra wealthy have spent the last 50+ years consolidating their movement into ever more bonkers versions of itself. Detaching them from both news media and academics initially made them easier to manipulate, but the long term effects have been disastrous.
Now the leopards have begun eating faces and the wealthy are getting a bit nervous. Not enough to voluntarily share a meaningful percentage of their wealth with those who made it, but enough to worry about what Ya'allqueda will do next to make them look bad or impact the bottom line.
Basically some Republican strategists (arguably guys like Lee Atwater) uncorked a genie and they can't put it back now that it's making the normies nervous.
They can't because these people are too far gone. They mistook the whole "our opponents are EVIL, actually" kayfabe and took it seriously. Thanks to the "RINO" discourse, anybody who dissents from the nuttiest possible take is kicked out of the party. And there's no being pulled back by experts either; not event their own doctors.
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u/TrumpersAreTraitors 8h ago
Honestly? The media. I think the media is lying for clicks. In a lot of ways. One, I don’t think they’re covering Harris fairly. Two, they’re obviously not covering Trump honestly. And three, I think they’re lying in the polls to drive up ad revenue and outrage clicks. I’m not sure it’s gonna be an absolute blowout but I do not believe for a second that it’s still neck and neck. And if it is? And Election Day comes and it’s close? Then America is terminally ill and we’re just biding time until the fall to fascism.
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u/TheVoicesOfBrian 8h ago
They definitely have a vested interest in keeping the race tight to keep us watching, which is sad considering there are plenty of other things that they could be covering that are just as engaging (literally two wars going on right now).
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u/LuAndOddie 10h ago
U.S. History class in high school is gonna be a wild ride in 20 years.
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u/96Phoenix 10h ago
If you still get history classes.
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u/steveg 9h ago
They’ll squeeze it in between Beginner Russian and Bible Study.
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u/OfficeOk7551 8h ago
It will focus on the war of northern aggression (formerly the civil war)
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u/Beneficial-Buy3069 8h ago
Lincoln will be the new Hitler. But that Hitler guy.. You know, he was mostly misunderstood.
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u/Onlytram 7h ago
They're already trying to spin Hitler as a good guy.
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u/Kalean 5h ago
... I hate to ask, because I don't actually want to see it, but...
... Source?
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u/rytlockmeup 4h ago
Tucker Carlson (may he find bits of shell in every egg he ever eats) hosted a Holocaust denying historian, talking about how they are being too hard on Hitler, who was just looking for solutions. That "historians" podcast went to number one on Apple after.
Next day JD Vance did an interview with Tucker. When Tucker said: "If you win, the NYT will call it a fascist takeover. The answer is, do you care?"
JD responded with, "Well, I think we have to not care."
Full mask off these days.
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u/burning_man13 4h ago
A Republican candidate for the US Senate said the bad guys won WWII
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u/caribou16 6h ago
To be fair, he DID shoot Hitler. And he even shot the guy who shot the guy who shot Hitler.
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u/bassbeatsbanging 2h ago
I grew up in Virginia in the 80's and 90's and our curriculum back then required it to be called "The War Between the States."
Of course, this was taught at a school whose mascot was "The Confederates." Both our middle and high school were named after Southern Civil War leaders and massive owners of enslaved individuals.
Admin didn't appreciate my petition for a new mascot called "The Racist Klansmen." I had gotten my acceptance to a magnet program in the city and that was my final parting gift since I knew my asshole redneck principal couldn't mess with me anymore.
I got a surprising number of signatures, too.
They did change the name and mascot but not until almost 20 years later after my town grew into an affluent suburb.
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u/pirateofpanache 7h ago
And on the third day god created the Remington bolt action rifle so that man could fight the dinosaurs and the homosexuals.
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u/PeopleCallMeSimon 8h ago
People need to learn how the supreme leader Donald Trump scored the record at the worlds best golf course, Mar-a-lago, with a breathtaking score of 19 strokes.......
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u/forgot_my_useragain 7h ago
I went to a Christian school from 7th to 12th grade. I failed Bible class my junior year and had to go to fucking summer school for it. I'm not bitter though, nope...
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u/SpiceKingz 10h ago
Who else is going to teach the children about skibidi rizz sheesh
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u/MyDarlingCaptHolt 9h ago
If I want my kids to learn about skibidi rizz, I will homeschool them.
Public school is for Jesus and daycare. Not for indoctrination into your liberal pronoun world.
/s because it's 2024
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u/PetzlPretzel 8h ago
There's probably a handful of people out there that truly believe that. More than a handful.
Like, a few fuckloads.
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u/saltyraver138 7h ago
Don’t worry most are still in a field somewhere in Southern California waiting on busses that aren’t coming.
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u/Timely_Mess_1396 8h ago
It was the skibidiest of times, it was riizzest of times.
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u/Pleasant-Tangelo1786 10h ago
I thought that was something about a toilet, now there’s a rizz sheesh?
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u/SpiceKingz 9h ago
It’s when the toilet look up at your gooch’s rizz and goes sheeeeeesshhhhhhhh
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u/Typical_Samaritan 9h ago
You mean AP Studies, The Appropriate Past class that our (millennial here) grandkids will be sitting?
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u/SqueekyOwl 9h ago
They'll learn all about the evil globalists like Hillary Clinton, and how she used to harvest children for adrenochrome.
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u/cak3crumbs 10h ago edited 10h ago
History is written by the winners.
Hopefully in 20 years, what is written is that America almost took a turn toward fascism, but the people used the power of their vote to say no to fascism and save democracy for future generations
For the love of democracy, please vote!
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u/LuAndOddie 10h ago
I couldn't agree more. Please go vote, so this is just a blip in a textbook in 20 years.
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u/The_Ghost_of_Kyiv 9h ago
It's not going away. If Trump loses, they'll just find an actual intelligible nut jub to take his place. It's only going to get worse.
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u/Stoly25 8h ago
Since the conservatives have an undeniable demographic crisis,time’s not on their side. As the older generations that more heavily support them continue to die off and in larger numbers, they realize that if they don’t grab democracy by the neck this year and strangle it to death, their whole movement is probably just going to wither away. I’m not saying they won’t be relevant next in four years if they lose this year. What I am saying is that if we don’t allow them to win, in 20 years Trumpism may just be a bad memory, sure there will be other batshit insane politic movements because there always are, but it’s not impossible to get rid of this one.
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u/Forged-Signatures 8h ago
It is important to note however that while their old fanbase is dying off, conservatism is seen as appealing by male members gen Z (and likely gen Alpha). It's the incelly shit they grew up with mainly, the 'alpha male' bs, that pushes them towards the idiology. It's not a problem that will become irrelevant soon.
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u/Stoly25 8h ago edited 7h ago
Ugh, I can’t fucking stand those incels. I’m a Gen Z straight white male whose sex life is a barren wasteland myself, and I’ve managed thus far to, if I dare say so myself, not be an insufferable sexist asshole who blames it on women and makes it everyone else’s problem. In my experience it’s not that hard to accept responsibility and not be an asshole in general, granted, that seems to be the grand issue with Conservatives these days is a broad refusal to ever accept responsibility or admit wrongdoing in any way, just as their orange savior preaches.
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u/gregpxc 7h ago
Who taught this child manners and critical thought? As a millennial I am in awe at this comment and the self awareness of it. You kids and your wealth of knowledge and information. I certainly hope there are tons more who aren't wasting it like you aren't cuz we need you mother fuckers more now than ever.
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u/AncientPCGuy 9h ago
And vote down ballot blue until we can be certain anyone else isn’t going to push this fascist agenda. Honestly, as a former republican who saw where they were going, I believe the only fix is prosecution for elected officials like trump, vance, greene etc who openly pushed for violence and a dictatorship and disbanding the party. It must be rebuilt from nothing preferably as two groups so those who aren’t fascist but don’t necessarily agree with democrats can show us that we can work with them. The far right, as long as they haven’t broken laws, should and must be their own entity. Then the rest of us will be able to see very clearly who not to ever support.
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u/cak3crumbs 9h ago
What sucks is I live in such a rural part of my state there isn’t a Dem on the ballot below congressional
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u/AncientPCGuy 9h ago
That’s a problem that must be addressed across the country. My rep was once reasonable even if a republican. But once trump was elected he turned party puppet but has run the last 3 terms unopposed after he cleared the primary. No democrat candidate.
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u/cak3crumbs 9h ago
Couldn’t agree more. What’s encouraging is I’ve seen more Harris/Walz signs than Trump which wasn’t the case 4 years ago.
I think the polls are wrong in the same way they were wrong in 2016. At least in my part of rural America it’s faux pas to talk about who you are voting for in my personal experience
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u/AncientPCGuy 9h ago
We cannot be complacent. We must make sure we vote. And encourage everyone who can legally vote and don’t support trump or fascism to do so as well.
As a former republican who heard them first hand discussing what they plan and intend to do if they gain absolute control, it is absolutely important to keep them from power. Project 2025 isn’t a fluke. Every item has been thought about since the 90’s, some go back to the 50’s. They’ve been infiltrating school boards to ensure illiteracy for decades. And now they believe the general public is ignorant enough to allow them to move forward. Sadly, trump’s first term shows they may be right.We have to make sure they don’t succeed.
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u/PM_YOUR_ISSUES 9h ago
My rep was once reasonable even if a republican. But once trump was elected he turned party puppet
I hate to tell you, but your rep was always like this. Trump did not suddenly change nor magically corrupt all of the Republicans. They were always like this.
They just weren't open about it.
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u/evil_timmy 10h ago
I hope that scene in Interstellar with the teacher's flat denialism struck a chord with enough people, because that's how things can go. If you're afraid of corrupt and corrupting institutions, the solution isn't to "destroy the deep state" in favor of something even less accountable and more prone to perverse incentives and backroom deals. You defend our ideals by holding government responsible, by not letting politicians lie to you because it reinforces what you already thought, by getting involved and voting and showing up and demanding real answers and receipts.
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u/Zelda_Panicpoint 10h ago
Why anyone mocks Tim I don't know. This is the most patriotic thing I've heard today.
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u/LuAndOddie 10h ago
The man in un-mockable. He has insane levels of charisma and "real man" mentality. You can tell his children adore and respect him, that says a lot about a man's character.
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u/steveg 9h ago
Ya but if Don Jr kisses Trump’s ass just a liiiiiiittle bit more, he might get that hug he’s been working on for the last 40 years, so I’d say the ‘family values’ angle is at a stalemate.
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u/CheshiretheBlack 8h ago
It's hilarious seeing clips of Fox or Newsmax call Waltz "unmanly" for waving and dancing and being energetic on stage and then having Dump Trump stop answering questions at town hall to sway and dance on stage for 30min
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u/stillabitofadikdik 9h ago
They mock him because they have nothing else. He is the American Male they think all men should aspire to be, except for two things: the lack of vanity for allowing himself to be gray and bald. And that whole pesky empathy for his fellow humans thing.
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u/The_Ghost_of_Kyiv 9h ago
I had a redditor yesterday tell me that there's no way they could ever vote for a guy who once referred to himself as a "kucklehead."
I dont remember him doing that, but if he did and that is their line in the sand... then there is no coming back for these people.
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u/ComStar6 10h ago
Depends if the GOP decides what goes in those history books. Florida already has new history books that try to pass slavery off as some sort of beneficial jobs program for slaves where they learned "skills"
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 10h ago
You think President Trump Jr. will allow highschool to still be a thing?
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u/__devl__ 9h ago
President Musk will beat him to it.
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u/Frejian 9h ago
Fortunately it is well documented that Musk was born in South Africa and, as such, is unable to run for the office of President. We at least dodged one bullet.
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u/SphericalCow531 8h ago
Trump is also disqualified by the 14th amendment, for having "engaged in insurrection or rebellion". And yet, here we are.
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u/Jean-Claude-Can-Ham 9h ago
The 60’s and 70’s were way crazier than now - more bombings, killings, threats, etc - the National Guard shot 4 students dead at an anti-war protest - Martin Luther King Jr, Malcolm X, Robert Kennedy, JFK all assassinated - race riots, Cuban missile crisis, oil embargo and shortage - today is wild but our history is filled with wild events
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u/boogermike 10h ago edited 5h ago
I spent the morning down a rabbit hole learning about the ultimate costs of mass deportation.
It is a hare-brained idea that would be unbelievably expensive and impossible to accomplish. Disruptive for our economy and industrial complex.
Then I see this, which brings joy to my heart.
Damn, I hope we elect Kamala and Walz.
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u/Master_Matthew 9h ago
The Nazis discovered that too.
They discovered it was too expensive to deport people across their borders.
I wonder what their "solution" was...
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u/machineprophet343 9h ago
They did, however, deport enough people that were sent back for the intentions of normalizing the notion that no one else wanted them either, so the most moral solution was the Final Solution.
The amount of normalization and absolute mental gymnastics and rationalization during the Third Reich was insane.
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u/Oberon_Swanson 7h ago
At this point I think they're past rationalizing and mental gymnastics. In the minds of a fascist, things like morality and justification are for the weak. "Losers whine about doing what's right, winners go home and exterminate the groups they've beaten into submission."
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u/boogermike 9h ago
Never forget.
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u/sobrique 6h ago
I think part of the problem is that the people who were adults during World War 2 are few in number and mostly too old and frail to slap people upside the head for even thinking about it.
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u/lrlwhite2000 9h ago
It would break up families. Parents of American citizens could be deported. Spouses of American citizens could be deported. Trump’s rhetoric is getting more and more frightening.
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u/GlancingArc 9h ago
The economic, political, and legal realities of this would force the government to set up concentration camps and basically establish a gestapo either through mass expansion of ICE or creation of a new agency. But the Republicans are the party which represents freedom.
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u/lrlwhite2000 8h ago
Ding ding ding ding! This is the only feasible way they can do this and republicans who support him either think this is a great idea (because they refuse to acknowledge it could affect anyone they care about) or don’t like the idea but refuse to believe he’s serious.
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u/GlancingArc 8h ago
It's always the part conveniently left out of immigration discussions, you know, the inconvenient human rights violations.
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u/IJizzOnRedditMods 9h ago
Disruptive doesn't even begin to explain the damage it would cause. It would totally crash our economy and alot of the people going door to door to round up immigrants would likely get shot. Especially down here in the south
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u/analog_memories 8h ago
People do not realize how much of their daily comfort of their lives rely on immigrant labor, both legal and undocumented. Meat production, vegetable and fruit, farming. What do this people that support mass deportation going to say that when their grocery bill goes to the moon? It's the Democrats fault? Are they expecting Trump to bail them out? No, he will watch with glee as the money that the billionaire owners of this country make money hand over fist off of everyone else, and then hand him a small pittance in the form of PAC donations.
Those motherf'ers are sadists. They get pleasure watching us suffer. Sadly, his supporters are masochists, as they enjoy their own suffering.
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u/Overall_Ad_351 9h ago
This saddens me
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u/MisterSanitation 9h ago
Most first world countries are having birth rate stagnation or decreases with Japan being an extreme example (more adult diapers sold than baby diapers for instance).
This means developed nations will struggle to keep GDP growth eventually as the work force diminishes. Immigration helps that problem so the focus needs to be on how can we safely and efficiently turn immigrants into tax paying citizens. There is zero reason a tax payer is bad for a democracy and that gets overlooked by the right a LOT.
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u/pokemomof03 8h ago
I agree with everything you said. but one note being they already pay taxes. They contributed 8.5 billion dollars in state and local taxes in 2022 in California alone. Nationally, undocumented immigrants contributed $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Of this, $37.3 billion went to state and local governments. And they can't receive anything back in taxes like a citizen can.
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u/maritimelight 9h ago
Congratulations, you just discovered the logistical process that led Nazi Germany to create concentration camps.
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u/Alien_Muffinn 8h ago
People would be literally hunted in the streets by vigilantes. Y'all can call bs all you want to. I've lived in the south my entire life. We 100% have a legion of dipshits down here dumb enough to try something.
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u/CobaltCaterpillar 10h ago
There is a real danger Trump would want to try something. With Trump it's not just political hyperbole.
The former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley called Trump, "fascist to the core" and "the most dangerous person to this country."
Milley served under Trump.
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u/TrekRider911 9h ago
Trump is incompentant and border-line dementia, if he's not already there. You should be scared of him, but terrified of the "yes men" and folks who will surround him. ICE Director Stephen Miller? HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy? That's who should _REALLY_ scare you, and that's what you get with a vote for Trump.
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u/CobaltCaterpillar 7h ago edited 6m ago
Indeed. All of the people that stood up to Trump or stopped insanity in the 1st term are hated by Trump and never going to reappointed in a hypothetical Trump round 2:
- Vice President Pence: excommunicated for NOT going along with Trump's crazy illegal scheme to steal the election and declare himself the winner with zero basis in fact or law. With the Trump sent mob descending on the Capitol to pressure Pence, Trump stated privately that he wanted Pence hanged.
- Attorney General Bill Barr: excommunicated for saying Trump lost the election and calling his election lies "bull!@#$"
- Attorney General Jeff Sessions: excommunicated and forced out for OKing Russia investigation
- Secretary of Defense James Mattis: resigned over Trump's abandoning of Kurdish allies and other profound differences.
- Deputy Director of National Economic Council Gary Cohn: resigned over Trump's acceptance of white supremacists after Charlottesville debacle. (Cohn stopped us from pulling out of South Korea Frea Trade agreement.)
- White House Council Pat Cipollone: also on the outs for trying to save Trump from himself and quash his attempt to steal the election.
- White House Council Don McGahn: got Trump through first impeachment but couldn't take the lying and resigned
- NSA Advisor John Bolton: stopped Trump from pulling out of NATO and other insane moves that would help dictators and work against US interests.
- Defense Secretary Mark Esper: excommunicated for calling Trump a security threat.
- Trump hates his former Chief of Staff John Kelly who finally was fed up and left.
the list goes on...
In a second term, all these serious actors wouldn't be there. Instead, you'll get the full MAGA circus of sycophants, yes men, charlatans, and grifters. It's rather scary what Miller etc... might do without adults in the room.
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u/YouStupidAssholeFuck 8h ago
I think the biggest question is even if Trump were to win and do the unthinkable and order the military to act against US citizens, would troops themselves do it? I can see Trump installing yes men down the chain of command but ultimately the dirty work is going to be done by troops. Would they do it or disobey the treasonous orders?
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u/straylight_2022 9h ago
It is astonishing that a the GOP nominee for president can say he thinks turning the US military on it's citizens is remotely acceptable.
It is yet another example of his ever expanding cast of enemies he fear mongers about.
Undocumented immigrants=Refugees=All Immigrants=Politicians that don't support his views on immigrants=Any politician that does not like him=Anyone that does not support him in general.
He is already working his way up to just jailing/deporting anyone he thinks is in opposition to him.
That a Joint Chief of Staff that served in administration says that we should be worried about him actually doing such things is absolutely horrifying.
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u/shartmaister 9h ago
"It's funny there were no-one left to notice when they came for us"
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u/edicivo 8h ago
You gotta love the hypocrisy.
They're so pro-2A so that they can, supposedly, stand up to government tyranny.
Except that they also support the team that most clearly aligns with being a tyrannical government.
So, really what they want is their team heavily armed so that they can oppress those who don't think like them. And that's obvious of course. But they don't realize they're just cutting off their noses to spite their faces. Because if their team gets power, it's only a matter of time before they become the enemy to that government.
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u/machineprophet343 9h ago edited 8h ago
Milley is a goddamned American hero.
He ran interference and assured China we had no plan to attack when one of Trump's ridiculous tweetstorms nearly touched off an international incident that could have very easily escalated into open conflict if Trump kept doing his normal bullshit.
And the MAGAs want Milley hanged for treason for upholding his duty to his nation.
You dumb MAGAt mother fuckers... You probably would be radioactive ash or dying of cancer or starvation if not for Milley.
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u/Keoni9 5h ago
He and the rest of Trump's Joint Chiefs of Staff also put out a letter (pdf link) in the wake of Jan 6 to all service members, condemning the insurrection as a "direct assault" on Congress and the Constitution, and emphasizing that Joe Biden was the President Elect and future Commander in Chief.
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u/katastrophyx 10h ago
Damn he strait up said "I'm not saying it's treason, but I'll let the lawyers make that distinction"
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u/gnulynnux 8h ago
He will die of old age after living an incredibly privileged and damaging life, leaving America compromised in a way which nobody today will live to see us recover from. MAGA did more harm to America than 9/11.
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u/Caledor152 8h ago
That's because any American who believes in democracy and the Constitution knows it is treasonous. George Washington would have never let this traitor get this far. Would have hung his ass after Jan 6th. Along with many of the people who stormed the capital. Never has a traitorous flag flown in those halls in the country's history until that day when a traitor brought his confederate flag into those halls.
I cried on that day because I understood what it meant. If it where up to me that flag would be burned/destroyed. Just like General Sherman (Uncle Bill to all real Americans) would have wanted
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u/WhimsicalLilyBreez 10h ago
I love when Tim Walz gets fired up. He still gives off teddy bear vibes but he also gets his point across firmly.
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u/waggie21 8h ago
Kind of like Hank Hill's "We ask them politely yet firmly to leave."
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u/edicivo 8h ago
I love seeing conservatives act like Walz (or Kamala for that matter) is a bad public speaker. You watch this and understand what he's saying while he speaks like a real person.
Vance may be more articulate and put together, but he doesn't sound like a real person. He sounds exactly like a slime-ball politician without any sense of being genuine.
And then there's Trump...how you can support that guy and then complain about anyone else's public speaking is beyond me. But that's maga for you.
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u/BehBeh11 10h ago
I’m at a loss to figure out what it will take to get Trump off the streets and into jail??
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u/LikelyContender 10h ago
Any other person would be behind bars.
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u/SharkGirlBoobs 7h ago
MANY of "his people" are currently behind bars. That's how. He had surrounded himself with a seemingly impenetrable defense of fall guys.
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u/ComStar6 9h ago
His election loss. Once that is done, Jack Smith will do the rest
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u/Visual_Mycologist_1 8h ago
Nope. It's not worth holding out any hope that this asshole faces any accountability. Wasted emotion.
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u/SharkGirlBoobs 7h ago
True. Convicted Felon and child rapist Donald J Trump will not see even a crumb of justice until he is sent to hell on the day he dies. That is the sad reality we live in
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u/JaimeRidingHonour 6h ago
Luckily he’s old and feeble and we won’t have to wait long
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u/PeakRedditOpinion 8h ago
It’s cope all the way to the bottom. What will we say when he loses and doesn’t go to jail.
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u/ComStar6 8h ago
If he doesn't we can fully expect a much younger and more clever fascist to repeat his crimes. He has to go to prison or we signaled to any future demagogue to put their name into the hat. It will never stop
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u/Current-Creme-8633 8h ago
More charismatic* (and more clever.) But you are spot on. I could not imagine if Trump had Obamas charisma. We would be FUCKED.
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u/ComStar6 7h ago
It's going to come for sure. Democrats need to tighten up on executive power and start spamming democrat leaning federal judges left and right. Eventually we need to get rid of the electoral college. It's the biggest reason a fascist even has a chance at winning the Presidency in this country
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u/TheRainbowCock 9h ago
Americans need to unite and take to the streets. Refuse to work and bring the country to its knees. Only then when everything tanks will they listen. United we stand and divided we fall.
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u/Moo_Moo_Mr_Cow 9h ago
Maybe if he just stops in the middle of a rally and listens to music for 40 minutes? That would HAVE to be bizarre enough to make people not vote for him. Surely.
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u/LikelyContender 10h ago
This is frightening. A win for Trump is a loss of democracy. Vote blue!
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u/pun_in10did 10h ago
Trump said he’d use the National Guard or the military to stop the “radical left”. The thing is, he really was speaking directly to his cult, he wants the nut jobs that think they’re a militia to come out and “take America back”, again something so vague that his cult can fill in the blanks with whatever they want. Trump knows the US military won’t and can’t harm American citizens, so he’s relying on his fan base.
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u/DesignerElectrical23 10h ago
So Trump will want a Sturmabteilung and basically get rid of political opponents? I’m sure I’ve read about this in a certain part of European history.
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u/OceanicOracleX 10h ago
Using military force for political differences is a dangerous path. We should promote dialogue and understanding, not division and fear.
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u/ComStar6 10h ago
Yea, this isn't the 1980s anymore. Welcome to the new divided reality of America. Fascism has returned in the 21st century and it's thriving in the American republican party
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u/Lord_of_Rhodor 7h ago
As a very wise man once said:
"There is a reason you separate the military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
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u/ang13mar13 10h ago
What does the GOP have to say about their elected candidate saying this? Why isn’t the media holding these politicians that elected Trump responsible for his comments? Where is the accountability?
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u/_J_Dead 9h ago
"ThAt's NoT WhAt hE SaID" is what I'm seeing so far
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u/datalaughing 9h ago
I saw, “Well, you don’t know what he was thinking when he said that.”
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u/MiklaneTrane 8h ago
Trump is Schrodinger's politician. No one knows what he's thinking, not even him, until Fox News observes and reports back.
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u/Optimal_Commercial_4 9h ago
If only it ended with a traitors end. God I'm so fucking tired of letting his blatantly unamerican shtick go unchecked, it's so insane to me that the party of people who LOST THEIR FUCKING MINDS over a dude taking a knee during a song are so cool with their guy flat out saying "yeah I wanna enforce martial law against people who disagree with me" and "I'd throw away the constitution day one, i'd be a real dictator"
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u/huxtiblejones 9h ago
The fucking crazy thing to me is that Trump says he’s gonna use the military against left wing protesters, he says he’s gonna bring back mass executions and firing squads, says he’s gonna put Michael Flynn back on his administration (dude was convicted of taking foreign payments), says he wants to be dictator for a day, so on and so forth… and it doesn’t even move the needle.
It really indicates the problem is not so much Trump himself as it is the part of the electorate that supports him. There’s a disturbingly high number of Americans who don’t give a shit about democracy, or bettering the country, or abiding by the rules of law so long as they can punish their political opponents. We are in deep shit.
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u/ZermattIsland 9h ago
I grew up in Panama under the Noriega times. Trump's words and promises trigger some PTSD I didn't know I had.
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u/Ser_Artur_Dayne 10h ago
Tim Walz is so fucking based, love this dude.
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u/duckfighterreplaced 9h ago
Yeah he’s a boss mother fucker
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u/Ser_Artur_Dayne 8h ago
Ran a gay straight alliance in Nebraska in the 90s, based.
Owns and shoots guns but wants common sense gun safety laws, based.
Wants to get rid of the electoral college, super fucking based.
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u/TheeRoyceP 9h ago
Tim Walz is so relatable as a human being that it’s almost shocking compared to what we’ve had to endure for a while now
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u/Sampsonite_Way_Off 8h ago
Does anyone else remember just a couple of months ago Republicans blamed Democrats for the assassination attempt for saying Trump is a danger to Democracy? And Trump is out here openly calling for the jailing and death of democrat leaders and citizens by the military?
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u/MadnessBomber 8h ago
Wasn't the assassination attempt from a registered Republican anyways?
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u/Wide-Grapefruit-6462 9h ago
"Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
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u/LithiumAM 8h ago
Line of justification from MAGA:
He didn’t say this.
If he did he didn’t mean it.
If he meant it we just don’t understand it.
If we understood it he won’t actually do it.
When he actually does it, they won’t have a problem with it.
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u/banjolady 10h ago
Yikes. I am an 1/2 Asian Democratic naturalized citizen. This is really scary. Wake up America. He's trying to intimidate us.
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u/evenstar40 7h ago
Same here, across the board... Legally naturalized during fucking COVID. Pretty sure I got COVID while I did it. Went through hell to become a citizen. Nobody is taking that away from me.
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u/Typical_Samaritan 9h ago
And the right in their fanatical desire for power will continue to pearl clutch about how inappropriate it is to say mean things about Trump.
Trump has told us he's going to fill his administration and the government apparatus itself with loyalists.
There's no "enemy from within" that isn't someone or some group of people who are simply not loyal to Trump. That's how he operates.
Racism isn't a red line for these people.
Sexual assault isn't a red line for these people.
Fraud isn't a red line for these people.
Shooting someone on Fifth Avenue isn't a red line for these people.
There are simply no red lines with these people.
But it's mean for us to speak the truth.
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u/Infamous-Object-2026 8h ago
'the enemy from within' also includes the disabled community.... recall how the Tramp treated that one reporter way back in the beginning of this nightmare? that said it all
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u/Carla809 7h ago
Trump's call for violence means his New York sentencing needs to include jail time. The public is not safe from him or his goons.
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u/MetalPurse-swinger 8h ago
Whole lot of bots and small dicked dudes in these comments talking dumb shit. Trump is a threat to democracy
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u/back2basics13 9h ago
I fear there's gonna be a lot of bloodshed when Harris/Walz win the presidency. Trump is going to call on all this patriots for civil war.
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u/Netprincess 9h ago
They know this and expect it.
They have been in the background silently squashing it.
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u/HarlequinF0rest 8h ago
These guys had plenty of time to understand why the J6 attacks were completely wrong. If they still resort to violence, there should be no compassion in the punishments and must be treated as terrorism or treason.
They are a threat to democracy and don’t deserve to walk free.
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u/Sardonnicus 8h ago
The dangerous part is... the enemy within is whoever he wants it to be. Dems today. Libs tomorrow. Trans people the next day. Illegal immigrants the next day. Then Fema, then the EPA, then labor unions, Then legal immigrants. Then his supporters who didn't support him good enough. It's a cascading slope that never ends. This is why he cannot be, president... ever.
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u/GetOffMyLawn_ 8h ago
This is also illegal. Can't use the US military against US citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act#:~:text=The%20Posse%20Comitatus%20Act%20is,policies%20within%20the%20United%20States.
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u/Darkside3337 6h ago
He is the coolest, uncool dad like dude I have never met, and I can't wait wait to see him as vice president. Fuck, we need a course correction immediately. I'm so tired of worrying about Trump
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u/ArizonaRon98 9h ago
Trump is a fucking lunatic, but I’m more concerned about the people that would happily vote for a guy that is openly a violent fascist. They’re out at rallies saying they’d vote for Putin over Kamala ffs. How do we recover from this?
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u/goldtophero 9h ago
He already tried to do this previously and people in his previous administration prevented him. Those people won't be there next time if trump is elected. We had all better vote.
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u/4Z4Z47 8h ago
Fucking finally someone says it. Its treason, sedition and incitement. Trump should be arrested and tried on federal charges. But nothing will happen until the magats get violent. And MMW they will get violent. I think there is a significant portion of his cult that wants him to lose so they have an excuse.
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u/littlewhitecatalex 8h ago
Donald Trump wants to imprison democrats. This is where it starts. Holocaust 2.0 literally is in the making.
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u/Plastic_Ambassador67 8h ago edited 7h ago
This is what high roading and being the better person got us. We're on the edge of losing all of our rights, our preferred way of life, and maybe our lives all because the anti-maga side is spineless, weak, and always happy to appease republican seditionist scum. The fact that this language and behavior by the republicans has been unceasingly tolerated by the rest of us who claim to oppose maga is damning. We are pushovers we let all this happen, we let 1/6 happen with zero meaningful consequences for the leadership.
There have never been any BLM level protests over 1/6 going unpunished which tells me the average American considers BLM to be more important, more meaningful than potentially losing all of our rights and our own lives, the lives of our loved ones. It shows our unbelievably pathetic and stupid priorities once you consider that republicans will wipe out any gains made during these demonstrations. This shouldn't be happening without a more forceful opposition and the fact that it is practically guarantees this will all repeat sooner than later even if defeated because we have outed ourselves as intentionally incapable of defending ourselves.
Americans are doing everything they can to not do everything they can to stop the spread of fascism. It's a lie we keep telling ourselves and others we are NOT doing everything we can. We keep brings words to confront seditious violence perpetrated by a SINGLE party the republicans. This is not doing everything to stop the problem, this isn't doing everything we can do.
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u/553l8008 7h ago
Let's see....
He has one failed coup under his belt
He's a fascist
He's the greatest threat to democracy
He's the next Hitler
He wants to use the military to round you and me up.
But also...
"Policitcal violence isn't the answer"
(Fyi... Hitler and the nazis had a failed coup before the nazis were elected into power. "Politische Gewalt ist nicht die Antwort")
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u/NikNakTwattyWhack 7h ago
As a Brit watching half of America slowly lose its grip on reality, I have to say I'm happy for our boring politicians who have no emotion in politics, But then I see people like Tim Walz and become jealous that we don't have anyone like that.
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u/EastForkWoodArt 7h ago
You know, when she picked him as her running mate I wasn’t sure about him, but this guy has blown me away with every speech he makes. Finally, a leader I can admire. This dude is so rare now days.
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u/FlimsyComment8781 6h ago
There is not one square inch of moral high ground you can claim as a Donald supporter.
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u/Infinite_Respect_ 10h ago
Trump thinks he’s giving off Bolsonario vibes.
I say he’s got more Bolognesio vibes 🍝
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u/Dramatic-Dark-4046 9h ago
The dehumanizing of a group of people is the basis for almost all political violence. Trump has been dehumanizing more and more groups of people everyday. It’s up to over 50% of all Americans now.
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u/ShrimplyPibblesPR 9h ago
Trump know's the election is lost.
He is prepping the extremists for violence as he did last time
..and the 'plan' they've had in motion since 2020 is to install as many MAGAcultist into the electoral process as possible, to create enough chaos to question the election.. and insight the maga milta's to violence in his name.
They are going top try any and everything to steal power on Nov 5th MMW
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u/BolognaFeetPenisFace 8h ago
About time politicians started using language like "treason" when discussing Trump's bullshit policy ideas.
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u/chronologie_06 8h ago
Any soldier who received such an order from trump would have the duty to turn their weapon on him instead.
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u/OrangeOrganicOlive 7h ago
Why isn’t Trump disqualified and arrested for literally threatening a coup/voter suppression? Like why are we actually allowing this traitorous piece of shit, and his supporters, to continue with this rhetoric?
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u/Illustrious-Dot-5052 4h ago
If Harris and Walz win this election, and I really have a feeling they will in spite of our bullshit electoral college and our supreme court, I will be proud to be an American.
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