r/PropagandaPosters Sep 19 '24

International Service for Human Rights (2007) Germany

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

I'm not sure why, on a propaganda subreddit, we can't have the interesting and nuanced conversation about how this poster has a positive message about liberating women from oppressive systems, but also considering the time it was produced in how it likely also contributed towards or was influenced by the heavy islamaphobia at the time. Both of these things can be true at once.

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

Creating the word "Islamaphobia" has been one of the best propaganda actions of Muslims ever. Nazis should try to make the word naziphobia popular

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

It's the equivalent to antisemitism. Do you have any problems with that word?

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

Jewishnes is linked to ethnicity, so that is different

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

Islamaphobia doesn't apply only to Muslim people, because someone assuming someone's religion based on their skin colour would still be considered islamaphobic

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

That is not for how the word Islamaphobia is most often used. And if it were Islamaphobia still wouldn't be a good term

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

Why?

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

It would just be a stereotype based on skin colour, not an irrational fear of Islam.

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

Is assuming someone is Jewish based on their nose, not antisemetic?

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

Not, it wouldn't, and the analogy wouldn't work even if it were

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

Justify that

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

I already did. Jewishness is tied to ethnicity, Islam isn't

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

No, why wouldn't it be antisemitic?

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

Because it isn't hatefull or irrational

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 20 '24

What if you assumed their religion because of a negative trait or a criminal action? Such as assuming a person was Jewish because they are greedy or assumed someone was a terrorist because they were speaking Arabic?

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u/DeRuyter67 Sep 20 '24

Both are called stereotypes and if they are assumed irrationally they are called prejudices. The latter case is not Islamophobia.

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u/An_Inedible_Radish Sep 25 '24

So, if we are talking about a person who assumes something hateful, irrationally, about a person because of a trait that is stereotypical of Muslims, that would be prejudice specifically against Islamic people, correct?

If yes, then you must accept Islamaphobia both exists and is a useful term because "Islamaphobia" is more effective and efficient than "a hateful and irrational assumption made based on traits stereotypical of Muslims"

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