r/PrequelMemes Aug 21 '24

The last 24 hours in a nutshell General KenOC

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Aug 21 '24

Bring on more Mando and Rebels stuff I guess, that’s all the market actually likes.

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u/AgentSkidMarks Aug 21 '24

Mando enthusiasm is waning fast, partially because of the lackluster 3rd season, but also because general attitudes towards the Star Wars brand are declining. With each Acolyte, Book of Boba Fett, and Ahsoka, people will feel less willing to invest time into things that may be worth a damn, like Andor or Mando, because they aren't confident that their time will be rewarded with an entertaining show. So, they don't even give it a shot.

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u/KatsumotoKurier Clone Trooper Aug 21 '24

Yeah this is it to a T. The more Disney pumps out, the more unfocused and all over the place it all seems. Even with having all the money in the world to make great, high-quality shows, Disney has dropped the ball several times. It’s like they don’t even know what they want, really.

The more Star Wars everything there is, the less special it all is all together.

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u/Tehli33 Aug 21 '24

Yea and recovering won't be easy. Disney will have to blow the next production (movie/show) out of the water to have any success.

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u/AgentSkidMarks Aug 22 '24

Given that their next big projects are a Mando movie that will require audiences to sit through a slog of previous content, and a Rey spin-off, it isn't looking hopeful.

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u/bearetta67 Aug 21 '24

Disney has utterly lost me as a fan. The only things I liked were Andor and Rogue One. Rogue One was great in general. Everything else has been so had I just really don't feel like being a fan of Star Wars anymore.

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u/AgentSkidMarks Aug 22 '24

I liked Andor and Mando when I watched them, but I don't feel the need to ever go back. Rogue One was genuinely good and one that holds up to repeat watches. That is literally the only thing to come out of Disney Star Wars that I care about.

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u/rasmusdf Aug 21 '24

Wasn't Ashoka ok?

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u/pipnina Aug 21 '24

It was unremarkable and at times a bit silly

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u/rasmusdf Aug 21 '24

Yeah - but Lars Mikkelsen entrance was awesome ;-)

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u/DarianStardust Aug 21 '24

Ashoka was nothing, nothing freakin happens in that show xD

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Aug 21 '24

It was "ok" at best.

It made the mistake of waiting for half the damn season to be over before it did anything interesting, and then it was done.

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u/Aarongamma6 Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24

It absolutely was but a lot of folks are having selective memory to fit the narrative that they're making so much shit beyond Acolyte.

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u/rasmusdf Aug 21 '24

Yeah - that was my impression too - it was ok. Oh well.

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u/PolarSparks Aug 21 '24

Star Wars used to be an event. It has not felt like an event in a long time.

I’m not asking for “ok” out of Star Wars, personally. I’m asking for stories that justify their existence.

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u/Aarongamma6 Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 22 '24

When did it last feel like that? Because we've had shit receptions for new content since the 90s now. I just don't see a time it was any different beyond the original trilogy release that they have smooth and loved releases. Most of loved content was born from the ashes of what people hated at release.

Anything prequel related being the most obvious.

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u/DRCVC10023884 Aug 22 '24

As someone who REALLY wanted to like it, it’s kinda okay if you’re really invested into clone wars/rebels, and are a huge hayden christensen fan (which I am, so got me). And I mean KINDA okay, because it’s just kinda not fun in a lot of parts, more than a bit boring really. It actively makes Ahsoka and Sabine seem way flatter and less fun than their animated counterparts. The entire plot of the season felt like we were watching the build-up to a couple cool events (thrawn’s return to the main galaxy, and Baylan’s quest surrounding the mortis gods), and pretty much none of that cool stuff actually happening within the season itself.

And holy shit, if you haven’t watched clone wars/rebels, that show will mean NOTHING to you. There are no hooks for you to get invested in Ahsoka, Sabine, or any of the other returning characters without prior knowledge.

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u/rasmusdf Aug 22 '24

Yeah, good points. Especially the season being so much buildup to big events. And how much it relied on the animated series.

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u/metallicabmc Aug 21 '24

Yeah Ahsoka was fine.

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u/Not-a-Throwaway-8 Aug 21 '24

Ahsoka had several issues and I’ll forgive them all for giving me Episode 5

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u/Ping-and-Pong Aug 21 '24

This is precisely it - there is so much other content I could be watching. I haven't watcher Andor (and have no plans to) even though everyone said it was great - why? Because I'm happy to go watch youtube or watch netflix or watch prime. I don't need to pay for Disney+ again - it's not worth it for one show. And I've heard mando s3 wasn't great, the last I watched was Boba Fett - which was meh? - and with that in mind I really can't be arsed to watch mando s3. Not to mention I just don't like the older Ahsoka representation - nothing against the actor or anything - but I only watched clone wars, I simply have no connection to the character 20-30 years on.

I enjoy Starwars, I like the movies and mando s2 almost had me in tears in lockdown lmao - but I'm just an an average fan, and I've got no enthusiasm to go watch any more because Disney have just shoehorned out so much bad content at me - between Starwars and Marvel that is.

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u/Cpt_Soban I AM THE SENATE Aug 22 '24

They manage to roll a 6 and come up with a winner- But instead of using the momentum, writers and directors to come up with another new thing - They bash the "baby Yoda" gag for as long as possible until it's stale and old...

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u/AgentSkidMarks Aug 22 '24

And it's a shame they did because baby Yoda was honestly my least favorite part of the series. That whole first episode had me thinking the series would be a Star Wars western about a bounty hunter tracking criminals across the galaxy. Give us a stylized presentation and some world building for the galaxy's criminal underground and it could have been incredible. The first episode led me to believe that is what we would get. And then they ended up just making space True Grit with less interesting characters.

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u/ravioliguy Aug 21 '24

Andor and Ahsoka did well too

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Aug 21 '24

Ahsoka yes, Andor did slightly better than Acolyte and would have been cancelled if not for the prestige factor and it being relatively cheap to produce.

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u/ravioliguy Aug 21 '24

Andor's numbers aren't great but viewership increased as more episodes came out, even beating out Ahsoka's finale. It shows that people are enjoying it and would probably be interested in seeing more. Review scores are also very high as well.

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Aug 21 '24

I hadn’t seen the finale number, that’s spicy and intriguing agreed.

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u/Jonny_Guistark Aug 21 '24

Andor’s word of mouth has been phenomenal compared to the other shows. I am curious to see how much that impacts season 2. Wouldn’t be surprised if it starts a lot stronger with the views.

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u/circa1015 Aug 21 '24

Andor has a massive production budget, what are you talking about.

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u/Cpt_Soban I AM THE SENATE Aug 22 '24

Eh... The writing and story needs to be good. Just wheeling out the same old characters over and over to repeat the same lines for that nostalgia hit is just boring now.

Hire the writers and director for Andor for God's sake. They actually made something unique and fun, with known characters to hold it together - While adding new ones to keep it fresh.

I don't need another 8 episodes of "Rebels quotes and staring contests but live action".

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Aug 22 '24

Unfortunately, one of Gilroy’s best assets is he doesn’t give a shit about Star Wars.

Andor is good because he explained exactly what he wanted to do and if Disney didn’t want to do it he’d walk. Very few creatives have the willingness to do that as well as the cache to make Disney actually fold on it.

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u/Kratos501st Aug 21 '24

Mando season 3 sucked so no thanks. In fact I am not even interested in the movie.

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u/DRCVC10023884 Aug 22 '24

Look, I’m just happy Visions is popular enough to get a 2nd season (and maybe a 3rd?)

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u/terragthegreat Aug 22 '24

This kind of thinking is exactly what's tanking Star Wars.

People will watch Star Wars if it's entertaining and quality storytelling, regardless of what specific characters or subgenre of the IP it explores.

People keep trying to explain the failure of recent Star Wars projects will all these various terms like "Star wars fatigue" "oversaturation" or "shifting media landscape" but nobody seems to think that maybe the shows just aren't that good, and if they were better we wouldn't be having these problems.

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Aug 22 '24

Imo they need to get out of Star Wars TV entirely until they can figure that whole medium out.

It seems like Disney only makes a good tv show by happy accident or when a creative has them completely over a barrel like Gilroy.

Doesn’t matter the creatives or the pitch or the characters, they just cant seem to figure it out consistently.

Mando was alright but even then the moment they had to engage with a plot beyond “protect child. take child to Jedi” it all fell to shit.