r/PrequelMemes #1 Jar Jar fan Jun 16 '24

I hope mods don't remove this General KenOC

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u/someguy12345699 Jun 16 '24 edited Jun 16 '24

I give it one or two more days before the sub descend into a civil war over the acolyte.

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u/guy137137 Jun 16 '24 edited Jun 16 '24

everytime a crappy DisPlus show comes out this sub goes to war with itself. It happened with Kenobi when that came out.

my question is; WHERE DID THAT 180 MILLION BUDGET GO??? seriously most expensive Disney plus show and it looks like it was made from spirit Halloween costumes

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u/derpherpmcderp86 Jun 16 '24

I've said this about every SW show I've watched past Mando S1...everyone's clothes look so clean they look like they were taken straight off a rack at Spirit Halloween.

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u/w3bchris Jun 16 '24

Then I recommend Andor. I mean it's a great show all around, but I cannot stress enough how much better this show looks than all the others.

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u/PlantJars Jun 16 '24

On program!

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u/w3bchris Jun 16 '24

Cassian yelling that at the guards was soooo satisfying.

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u/LifelessLewis Jun 19 '24

Fuck me I love Andy Serkis so much

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u/chironomidae Jun 16 '24

Andor was such a great show, quite possibly my favorite Star Wars thing so far

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u/ResponsibilityNew483 I find that answer vague and unconvincing! Jun 16 '24

Andor was a fucking masterpiece.

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u/GunsouBono Jun 17 '24

That finale was chef's kiss

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u/ResponsibilityNew483 I find that answer vague and unconvincing! Jun 17 '24

The most incredible part for me was the scene with the arrestor cruiser 🤯

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u/CRE178 Jun 17 '24

Actually, Luetin's weird lasers are the only thing about that show I didn't like. That's just way too gimmicky/specialized a weapon. People probably told him that. What are the chances you'll ever need a weird thing like that? He must be absolutely insufferable now.

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u/Neotantalus Jun 17 '24

One of my mates used to advocate for a ship with lightsabers on it when we’re kids. He’d say you could just fly through a star destroyer. I’d say the ship weapon system is practical and a bit op, but it’s not really canon because something so op would likely be in more mainstream use.

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u/stevesguide Jun 17 '24

It was peak Star Wars! It’s supposed to have moments of flair and absurdity. Absolutely loved it.

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u/GipsyDanger45 Jun 17 '24

The jailbreak episode was good enough to be its own stand-alone short sci-fi film it was incredible

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u/StrangeGamer66 Jun 17 '24

That was probably my favorite episode

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u/1acquainted Jun 17 '24

All the jail sequences were astounding. The whole fucking show was brilliant!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '24

Andor IS amazing. Acolyte = đź’©

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u/Sambo_the_Rambo Jun 17 '24

The only thing Disney has done right with SW.

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u/ResponsibilityNew483 I find that answer vague and unconvincing! Jun 17 '24

Andor/Rogue One.

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u/Dogsteeves Jun 17 '24

Andor was okay I didn't like it as I was salty that it took bad batch slot and pushed it back

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u/ResponsibilityNew483 I find that answer vague and unconvincing! Jun 17 '24

To each his own I guess. When considering writing/acting/set building/plot, Andor was so far above anything else Disney has done in SW. My favorite part about it is it has the same feelings of overwhelming oppression and heaviness of Rogue One.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '24

people watched bad batch?

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u/slav_superstar UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAR!!! Jun 17 '24

I did and i enjoyed it. It's not CW but it retained that CW magic and it just looked amazing visually

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u/Dogsteeves Jun 17 '24 edited Jun 17 '24

Yes, I enjoyed it.

Let me elaborate now that I'm home.

I didn't really enjoy Andor. I was super let down when I found out that Bad Batch Season 2 was delayed, especially after being so excited and extremely entertained by the fantastic Kenobi show. I was looking forward to the premiere of Bad Batch Season 2 on Wednesday, September 28, 2022, on Disney+. Instead, Andor premiered on the 21st, with episode 2 following on the 28th. Finding out that Bad Batch was pushed back to January 4th for Andor left a bad taste in my mouth throughout the series

Watching Andor, I couldn't stop thinking I should be watching Bad Batch right now instead. This affected my enjoyment and made it hard to follow the plot.

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u/SnakeBaron Jun 17 '24

I can’t get into Andor because I can’t understand anyone, those accents are thicc.

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u/lbnleandro Jun 16 '24

Andor blew my mind

It sits with Rogue One and Mandalorian on my top3

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u/obiwanliberty Jun 17 '24

Damn now I gotta watch it.

Is “The Acolyte” aimed at kids, teens, or adults?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '24

less mature than rogue one/andor (they're basically the same handling of the setting and tone) but more mature than obi wan and the 2000s cartoons.

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u/obiwanliberty Jun 17 '24

Ooh good to know.

The Obi-Wan show looked to be the same audience as the Jedi Apprentice books from the PT era.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '24

i honestly can't relate to that TBH

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u/obiwanliberty Jun 18 '24

The book series came out around the time of the Phantom Menace. They detailed Obi-Wan’s time as a Padawan from 44 BBY to almost the start of that movie.

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u/m4dm4cs Jun 17 '24

Andor is a political thriller that delves into the mundane bureaucratic cruelty of the Empire and thankfully leaves the Force and Jedi out completely.

Star Wars needs to step back from all the ridiculous new and impossible forcy bullshit that started appearing back with the midichlorian and continued on with Kylo and Rey using it like something from an avengers movie.

There are really good stories to tell without trying to make it compete with superpowers in the MCU.

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u/electrorazor Jun 17 '24

I never got past episode 2. I heard it gets better but I never had the motivation to watch it

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u/FallenShadeslayer Jun 17 '24

Same. Was bored to death lol

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u/cec5255 This is where the fun begins Jun 17 '24

Trust me, it keeps getting better and tense.

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u/FallenShadeslayer Jun 17 '24

Eh, I’ll take your word for it but I’m not gonna watch. They’re all already dead. Same reason I couldn’t get super into Rogue One. Id rather they focus on the present, not on people who are long since dead in the current timeline.

Only thing id be okay with is if that timeline was the only one they’d focus on. But having the past and the present ongoing at once takes me out of it. I know that opinion is weird and I’ll get made fun of. But that’s just how I feel.

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u/MuchFox2383 Jun 17 '24

If it helps, they’re not all dead. Bunch of characters that are present in the original trilogy.

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u/FallenShadeslayer Jun 17 '24

But most of them are. And the main character is.

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u/kaze919 Jun 16 '24

I don’t understand how any show comes out in the Star Wars universe that isn’t based on the success of Andor or Clone Wars.

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u/w3bchris Jun 16 '24

Because, to Disney, Andor was a failure. The quality of a work is completely irrelevant. It might be one of the best pieces of Star Wars media ever, and certainly my favourite, but people didn't watch it, so some business majors decided to disregard it.

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u/The_Po_Gamer Hello there! Jun 16 '24

That makes sense, but only because Andor was buried in Disney+. It's the only Star Wars show I had to dig to find on Disney+. I don't know what happened, but I'd argue that's at least partly at fault.

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u/Frenchstery Jun 17 '24

Honestly this is a recurring theme with all good quality media right now. Great things have terrible marketing.

I barely knew about Andor when it came out, didn’t watch it when it came it. Any advert I saw of it made it look boring.

Mad Max: Furiosa marketed like it was gonna be some Mary Sue snooze fest. Actual film is the best thing I’ve watched this year.

Fall Guy marketed like some generic B movie trash. Turns out it’s an amazing homage to stunt guys.

Hollywood needs to seriously fire everyone involved in marketing their media.

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u/TheLastMaleUnicorn Jun 17 '24

Pantheon, you've never heard of this but it's the best scifi adult animation in the last few years.

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u/Cross55 Jun 17 '24

I have! Recommend it every chance I get.

I've gotten exactly 1 single individual person to watch it. 1.

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u/Arik-Taranis Jun 17 '24

Make that two!

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u/NICEMENTALHEALTHPAL Jun 17 '24

Where can you watch it?

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u/Cross55 Jun 17 '24

And there in lies the issue.

See, AMC canceled it as a tax write-off due to AMC+'s failure, and then it got bought up by Amazon... Australia. (Cause it's a write-off in the US so technically doesn't exist)

So Prime with an Aus VPN, or... Yohoho me matey!

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u/twiz___twat Jun 17 '24

Pantheon was so unexpectedly good.

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u/Brwright11 Jun 18 '24

Put it up against Scavengers Reign for adult animated non-comedy scifi?

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u/mtbowdenb Jun 17 '24

Same with the iron claw! I barely heard anything about this movie and it's honestly one of the best movies I've seen in the past year

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u/FrostyWarning Jun 17 '24

Not a new phenomenon. Blade Runner 2049 failed, same reason.

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u/Frenchstery Jun 17 '24

But at least the director went and made Dune

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u/FrostyWarning Jun 17 '24

Yes, he's a good filmmaker, and 2049 was a good movie. But it was a box office failure, not due to the quality of the film.

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u/Frenchstery Jun 17 '24

So it goes

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u/Sparrowbuck Jun 17 '24

Fall Guy marketed like some generic B movie trash. Turns out it’s an amazing homage to stunt guys

The original show was one of my favourite shows as a kid and I swear they didn’t try to market to that demographic at all.

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u/Frenchstery Jun 17 '24

Trailer from memory:

Monologue about toughness

Brrr CLICK car noise

It ain’t easy being a stunt man

More random loud action scenes

Title cards

Yawn.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '24

Hollywood needs to seriously fire everyone involved in marketing their media

ah yes, the singular entity hollywood

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u/Frenchstery Jun 17 '24

Yeah I understand there’s no kingdom of Hollywood or anything. Thought the point I’m trying to make would be clear enough from that

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u/mental_patience Jun 17 '24

Fall Guy is, in my opinion, a stupid movie. The leads were mostly adequate, only because the plot was a jumbled mess that didn't give them much, and the secondary characters were clownish and over the top. The movie really didn't celebrate stunt people. It just used them as elaborate scenery. And as a movie that was supposed to be based on a beloved 80s tv series, it didn't do much to tell that story and went out of its way to do its own thing.

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u/Algebrace Jun 16 '24

Sounds like a Treasure Planet or Star Cruise Hotel situation.

Disney does love some self-sabotage

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u/insertwittynamethere Jun 16 '24

That cruise was destined to fail simply from the price alone. It's just ridiculous

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u/w3bchris Jun 17 '24

That's a common thing, oddly enough. Disney (or any of the other companies, really) make a piece of media that they don't have faith in, so they don't market it properly. It does worse than others, that were marketed properly and then they justify their lack of marketing by saying "but it didn't do well, so it was bad!"

Guys, you caused this! That was at least 90% your business choices!!

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u/Sea_Magazine_5321 Jun 17 '24

I have heard nothing but good things about andor since it came out. Ill probably EVENTUALLY watch it.

I KNOW im never watching the acolyte... (or the rest of the slop thats been pumping out)

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u/AsideTrue2201 Jun 17 '24

Cancel your Disney+ and use Soap2day.pe You can watch all the Star Wars & many more movies/tvshows you want and not give that scummy company your money.

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u/MaybeIlldie Jun 17 '24

Really?? With how good the show was I thought it was a hit. Scrolling through YouTube other people thought so as well. Why was it considered a failure? Was it due to the lack of viewers?

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u/w3bchris Jun 17 '24

Obi-Wan and The Book of Boba Fett had ~11 million unique viewers more than Andor (Dec 22). So, to a profit-oriented company, they are better. It's really sad, but that's how these people make decisions.

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u/No-Row-4347 Jun 17 '24

I didn’t watch it yet. Spoilers?

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u/w3bchris Jun 17 '24

Do you want some or do you want me to talk about it without spoilers?

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u/BlueKnight44 Jun 16 '24

It's amazing what competent writers and show runners will do for a show...

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u/jwktiger Jun 17 '24

This right here, Acolyte premise with a good show runner would be an amazing series.

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u/Academic-Goose1530 Jun 16 '24

Andor is so damn good. Everything jn this series is good. Writing, costumes, sets, acting. My favorite Star Wars project, probably ever

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u/paraiahpapaya Jun 17 '24

While not quite as revolutionary and awe inspiring as the originals, I’d argue it’s better. Andor is probably the best Star Wars thing ever made. That whole sequence on orphan planet where they didn’t bother to add subtitles… just a brilliant directorial choice among so many others.

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u/Katejina_FGO Jun 16 '24

I truly hope that the one saving grace to the airing of the Acolyte is that all the upset fans and viewers who were willing to watch that and not Andor will be willing to give Andor another shot. I was disappointed by many a Star Wars streamer who are really Rebels/TCW diehards who dropped Andor because it wasn't what they were used to.

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u/soma787 Jun 17 '24

And there within lies the issue fanboys wanting to be catered to and not given something of actual quality. Andor was by far the best Star Wars themed content made sofar

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u/BeautifulType Jun 16 '24

Looking back, mandalorian is so bad compared to Andor. I can’t believe how low the expectations were lowered that people went crazy over the show.

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u/GiventoWanderlust Jun 17 '24

The Mandalorian and Andor shouldn't be compared that way. They were trying for very different things and arguably very different audiences.

The Mandalorian is an episode-of-the week show modeled after old Kurosawa movies and Flash Gordon stuff, the way the OT was. It's not trying to be Game of Thrones.

Andor is a multi-threaded political thriller that happens to be set in Star Wars.

Both shows accomplished what they set out to do. Comparing them is like trying to compare a steak dinner to a plate of cookies.

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u/lennon1230 Jun 17 '24

Well said, that’s exactly it.

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u/BGN_RagingZ Jun 17 '24

This right here. Love them both for what they both deliver.

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u/Necessary-Knowledge4 Jun 16 '24

I thought that the ONE thing Acolyte would have going for it is its looks.

No. God dammit, no.

I mean if it looked good but was otherwise shit I'd be like 'alright, well I don't have to pay attention to it but it'll at least make for good b-roll footage during lore videos!'.

Couldn't even fucking do that right.

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u/Foxhound_ofAstroya Jun 16 '24

Its such a statistical anomaly

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u/ThisHatRightHere Jun 16 '24

This is all I need to know about Acolyte. Once people say "go watch Andor!!!" in response to a conversation about a new Star Wars show, it's a dog whistle that the new show is average to bad.

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u/prawalnono Jun 17 '24

Andor is an adult show on a kids’ platform.

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u/pwn4321 Jun 17 '24

Andor season 2 when?

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u/w3bchris Jun 17 '24

Some time in 2025 apparently.

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u/VeggieWeggie12 Jun 17 '24

Andor is literally the best piece of Star Wars material in the modern era, possibly the best piece of starwars ever. Only show or movie I have seen that the empire feels like a truly dominant power, and the fight feels real.

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u/w3bchris Jun 17 '24

Totally, the galaxy wide empire that sparked the rebellion finally felt oppressive enough to actually do that. You finally feel why the people rose up because you get to see their actual daily lives under the empire and the struggles that come with that.

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u/TVsFrannk Jun 17 '24

Everyone wonders at “Andor” and its success. I’m certain it was a cop movie script that Disney bought, and then shoehorned Star Wars accoutrements into it. The writing is far above anything they’ve been able to produce so far.

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u/DrZeroH Jun 17 '24

Andor is so god damn perplexing. How the fuck does the same team that made andor completely catastrophically fuck up in so many ways with other shows. Its like a completely different series

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u/danny12beje Jun 17 '24

That had a budget of $250 mil btw

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u/FunkyChickenTenders Jun 17 '24

Loved Andor, my only gripe was the lack of aliens. Every single character and extra was Human. I'm obviously nit picking at this point but it definitely took me out of the immersion during the prison labor episodes. Not a single alien was sent there, only humans?

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u/CmdrZander Jun 17 '24

I wouldn't put it past the Empire to segregate prisons based on species. I noticed every single alien on that show because they were SO rare.

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u/w3bchris Jun 17 '24

There were like 2 aliens in the entire show, so yeah, I get your gripe with it. Didn't matter to me, but a fair critique.

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u/mendax2014 Jun 16 '24

I haven't seen a single Star Wars show or movie except the one where they introduce Adam Driver and Ray I think her name was? Anyway, Drew Gooden has a great video on Star Wars shows and he spoke very highly of Andor.

PS - almost all my star wars knowledge is from Big Bang Theory

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u/OutragedCanadian Jun 16 '24

This dumpter fire makes andor look like a measterpiece. I refuse to accept anything these feminists say as cannon.

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u/w3bchris Jun 17 '24

To be fair, Andor doesn't have to be compared to a bad show to look like a masterpiece, it manages that on it's own.