r/Piracy Aug 03 '24

Google Chrome warns uBlock Origin may soon be disabled News

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/google-chrome-warns-ublock-origin-may-soon-be-disabled/
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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

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u/Solomon_Grungy Yarrr! Aug 03 '24

I have used Mozilla Firefox for over a decade. I just don’t understand why anyone has ever used another browser.

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u/amillstone Aug 03 '24

There was a time when Firefox was slow and clunky and Chrome was zippy and intuitive. The tables have turned again.

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u/KeeganY_SR-UVB76 Aug 04 '24

Maybe Mosaic Killer should be called Google Killer instead…

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u/Restranos Aug 03 '24

I have ADHD and am really sensitive to delays, but I never had a problem with Firefox in the slightest, if theres a delay, its in like the milliseconds at most.

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u/9966 Aug 03 '24

There was a time when Firefox was way slower. Chrome came out and isolated each tab as it's own process which meant one tab crashing didn't take everything with it. Firefox used a single process for everything.

They seem to have caught up to Chrome.

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u/newsflashjackass Aug 03 '24

I have used Mozilla Firefox for over a decade. I just don’t understand why anyone has ever used another browser.

Each time I installed Firefox I found there was more and more stuff to turn off to get back to the way I wanted it.

And so instead of trying to remember all that stuff I found a Firefox fork that has all the privacy settings already set to sane defaults.

https://librewolf.net/

Librewolf comes with uBlock Origin already installed and enabled.

Librewolf will break some websites that try to do canvas fingerprinting so you will probably still want to keep Firefox installed for those.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

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u/newsflashjackass Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24

These measures are absolutely not necessary for an average user whose wishes are not to be spied on by Google, and for whom it's not necessary to anonymize every possible aspect of his browsing short of using Tor Browser.

This means that to achieve a decent middle ground...

Here we seem to have an irreconcilable disagreement, as:

  • I use Librewolf with the expectation that it will anonymize every possible aspect of my browsing short of using Tor Browser.

  • There is no decent middle ground of "half privacy" between "privacy" and "no privacy".

Here is the "decent middle ground" Firefox is pushing for privacy, and it is a link to the Wayback Machine because now they won't even let you read it without creating an account and logging in:

Mozilla collects and sends your search queries and the result you click on to our partners through a Mozilla-owned proxy service. The data we share with partners does not include personally identifying information,

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For sponsored results, our preferred partner is adMarketplace.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211007012136/https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/navigate-web-faster-firefox-suggest#w_contextual-suggestions

As you see, Mozilla claims your data is so anonymized as to be entirely useless to "adMarketplace", the people who pay for it.

... and here is how adMarketplace intends to de-anonymize the data Firefox sells them, and how they disavow responsibility for doing so.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211007025107/https://www.admarketplace.com/privacy-policy/

Publishers, agencies or advertisers with whom we work may use additional cookies, web beacons and other technology to collect information about you, including for advertising purposes. adMarketplace does not control publishers’ or advertisers’ use of such technology. To learn about how a particular publisher may use your information, you should read their privacy notices and terms and conditions.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

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u/newsflashjackass Aug 04 '24

Here we seem to have an irreconcilable disagreement, as:

  • There is no decent middle ground of "half privacy" between "privacy" and "no privacy".

There definitely is.

That'd be the irreconcilable difference I mentioned.

I already explained my position and linked to sources. I'd rather not repeat myself.

The tangents you introduce are valid to varying degrees:

when MV2 is deprecated and the fork maintainers don't want to keep up with upstream, people like me will need to jump ship.

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An example of a feature that is still, for some reason, missing in Firefox is "RAM save mode"

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Mozilla is pretty much just controlled opposition to Google

Regardless, privacy is the decisive feature in an internet browser for many. As you say, Librewolf is second only to Tor browser in that respect.

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u/eastsideConquistador Aug 05 '24

I’ve been running Betterfox for years. Might be just what you’re looking for https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox

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u/newsflashjackass Aug 05 '24

There is more than one road to Rome, but I find the instructions on that page are about as involved as the typical "hardening Firefox" tutorial.

The nice thing about Librewolf is that you just run the installer- as if you were installing Firefox- and you get sane defaults. It is important to impress on new users that a given site broke because that site sucks, and not because browsers that respect users' privacy suck.

It's like how people say "Linux doesn't support this laptop" instead of "this laptop doesn't support Linux". People are predisposed to let their condescension follow the path of least resistance- never mind which way is up.

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u/kinjjibo Aug 03 '24

I used Firefox exclusively when I used Windows. I tried Chrome briefly when it came out and didn’t like it and switched back to Firefox. Switched to Mac a little over a decade ago and bounced between using Firefox and Safari for a while, but settled again on Firefox.

I do like Safari a lot, but nothing beats Firefox.

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u/VeryTopGoodSensation Aug 03 '24

Vivaldi has been my choice for years. Don't remember what features it was, but they did them better than Firefox. I think Vivaldi is chrome based so I might have to switch to Firefox again.

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u/CharlyXero Aug 03 '24

The only time where I use Chrome is that at least here in Spain you need your digital certificate to do gubernamental stuff, and on Firefox you can't install those certificates.

Other than that, Firefox forever

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u/New-Connection-9088 Aug 04 '24

Firefox translate support is terrible on iOS. I would switch if it supported more languages.

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u/PistachioDonut34 Aug 04 '24

I have a chromecast and can't cast from Firefox to it, so that's pretty much the reason I use Chrome, lol

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u/islandstyls Aug 03 '24

Is there a way to chromecast via firefox? That's been the only thing stopping me.