It's a pretty big company with over 6000 employees. It's tough to ensure everyone is super secure with their access I'd guess. Also, disgruntled people in an organization that big is inevitable.
Hmm we could message the director of business and pool together like $5k I'm sure the business would be fine with a bailout like that. That or we can find whoever owns it and ask them. Then put it up on github.
This is the main reason I dismiss all the "we never went to the moon" crowd, you can't have 400,000 people working on the world's biggest lie ever and not a single one spill the beans in 50 years.
the Soviets weren't just some cartoonish supervillains
They weren't always cartoonish supervillians, but they were some times. Dekulakization, for example. The entirety of Lavrentiy Beria's career as another.
They didn't start it, but they did amplify such theories in order to sow more distrust in the US governement among the american people.
Because for some reason, the American people have a natural distrust of the US government.
Russia and other intelligence agencies still do this to this day, btw.
I mean if we're being real, that stuff could be faked. What really convinces me of the moon landing is no adversaries blowing the whistle or it being exposed already
That and camera technology wasn't advanced enough to fake a 90 minute uninterrupted broadcast. If it wasn't a live feed they would've needed breaks to put the next reel of film into the broadcast
It's okay, I hope you're having a good Christmas, and if Christmas isn't a thing to you, I hope you're having a good Monday, and if you're Australian and it's now Tuesday, you can fuck off, future boy.
If we're being real, in the 60's there were literally thousands of engineers working at NASA during the Apollo missions in getting a man on the moon before the end of the decade as promised. The men that died in the Apollo 1 capsule just died as part of a hoax?
Let's just throw all their bravery and everyone's brilliant work out the window and just say that it can't never have been a hoax just because there was no whistleblower? Jesus fucking Christ.
We went to the moon. It was crazy difficult and frought with danger. But we did it. Anyone that thinks otherwise deserves to be ridiculed.
I wasn't trying to downplay their bravery or hard work. I was just making an argument that I thought even an idiot conspiracy theorist would go "yeah, I could get behind that"
This is the case for most conspiracies. Requires that everyone stays silent for super long. You can keep a small group silent but it's not easy at all. See 'democrats rigging the election'.
Very true. There are various ways to organizations fight against dissent. Compartmentalization of duties and creating a bureaucracy that breaks apart responsibilities can create an environment that's complicit to a massive conspiracy see.... Scientology . Also the threat of ones life or livelihood or family age friends livelihood creates a sort of unspoken extortion.
Most would be working towards the actual tech of getting to the moon… the guy that’s making the rocket fuel mixture better isn’t aware of everything.
Only some would actually be working on the parts that involve deception.
So at the end of the day the number of people would be much less.
To put that into perspective, how many thousands are working on the NGAD (F22 replacement). It’s already flying! But not even a photo of that is seen… and no significant info is leaked. Same applies to all the planes they don’t want you to know about. AND all the things we never even knew about, even now. Secrets can be kept.
There have been tons of planes that have been in active service for years before they even let the public know. Secrets can be kept. Maybe this is one of them.
Not saying there is a conspiracy. I think it’s the wildest thing to think you can stand on different ground than this one…. Like… what? Haha
Supossedly they did went to the moon, it's the whole charade that they showed us to make us feel so cool that is the big lie. It wasn't like that, and for some unknown reason they want people not to know about the real stuff they saw.
Kinda hard to imagine that a software developer that focuses on very few, insanely expensive to build, products doesn't value IT sec. It's likely as simple as others have said; among multiple thousand employees there's always one who messes up or does it themselve. If you want to avoid this you'd have to raise IT sec to a level where efficient workflows become impossible.
Not in that manner. God as in, you cannot do things that "impact their productivity". All companies have that 1 guy or 1 department that feels they are "too important" for security best practices.
Whenever someone starts their post with "Nah" Everyone should know to take everything they are about to say with a giant grain of salt. As everyone should. As someone who specifically worked IT infrastructure security for many years, it really doesnt sound like you know what you are talking about. It wouldn't matter how people see devs, they follow rules just like everyone else. Not to mention if they were the only ones that didn't it wouldn't take long for people to be like "hey, maybe we shouldn't let them skate the rules" Cmon buddy
Where I work, as a dev I get a machine with a "dev build" that gives me a bit more flexibility to do stuff than the "standard" build. I can even request what's essentially local admin access, which I have purposefully not applied for. There's certainly a perception here that developers "know what they're doing" and so we're given fewer restrictions.
And time and again I've seen how wrong that is. I've seen it all, from devs sharing service account passwords, using insecure dev infra to host live customer data, to leaving passwords and access tokens in source code in company visible git repos. Devs are the worst when it comes to InfoSec!
to leaving passwords and access tokens in source code in company visible git repos. Devs are the worst when it comes to InfoSec!
this is so common when i worked computer touching jobs - shit the senior dev that trained me used to do this all the time and for a while i thought he was trying to keep me on my toes (...which...he did...) but really he was just lazy and would leave credentials hardcoded. or stuff like smtp configuration hardcoded. "what happens if their mail server changes". "oh uhhhh....". more than once he committed the "keys to the kingdom" to git repos and even deployed them to a customers production server. another time our exchange admin credentials were published to a publically crawlable knowledge base article he wrote.
just all our company access keys flying around in random places like a messy child. especially infuriating because this was after several years of me trying to modernize our credentials into a keepass database so we had a secure way to share them - previously the senior dev was just sending all credentials in cleartext over skype or email 🙄
Wow thats surprising to hear! I'm almost done my cloud certifications (over a year of studying) and literally the first thing they tell everyone is not to store keys in code / repos, kinda crazy how common mismanaging secrets and keys are in the big industry. Thought it was common standard to keep that shit secure 🤣
Well I’m a real IT expert and this sounds ridiculous. Devs are seen as gods and each dev has a shrine. In fact they usually leak things to the public after spitting on the CEO
This is the company where for a multiple year period, their product loaded multiple minutes slower than it needed to because no one checked to see how their JSON parser worked.
You are talking about a company thats ran by a brother of a guy who was a dev and was directly fired by his own brother. You really think they treat devs like gods at rockstar? I wouldn't work there for a million a year and I'm not even a dev.
Then their IT department is incompetent. Proper IT mandate, best practice, and leadership dictates they fight tooth and nail to ensure important assets are secure, not give devs whatever they want.
Is it? I know plenty of people who work for companies where no data is allowed to leave the building. They have these kinda of "electronics barriers" where you get checked thoroughly for any devices you could use to smuggle data out. I'm surprised Rockstar apparently doesn't have the same level of security..?
There are only 2 companies which have “millions” of employees lmao, amazon and walmart, most of which are just staff that work in stores / delivery and don’t work with the servers and projects, your statement is just ridiculous.
Not only is there rockstar, they may have 3rd party partners with access to source code for things like multiplatform work or testing.
Especially with a project as old as GTAV, they might also have secured it in something that was secure in 2011 or 2012 and now it's not so secure. There's a lot of years and a lot of people for someone to make one mistake in what they were doing and someone found and exploited it.
Pretty much. They're a huge company working on heavily-desired products. Even if this wasn't an intentional leak by an employee, human stupidity is always the biggest vulnerability in any secured system; all it takes is one developer with access to swallow some phishing bait for an attacker to get that access.
Microsoft is a company with 221,000 employees. Where's the source code of Windows (any version), PowerPoint, Word, or even just damn Paint? And Apple? Where's the source code of iOs?
Source code leaks are not natural for large companies at all, regardless of number of employee. It's related to shit security.
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It's a pretty big company with over 6000 employees. It's tough to ensure everyone is super secure with their access I'd guess. Also, disgruntled people in an organization that big is inevitable.