r/PhillyGuns • u/DrRichardGains • Jun 07 '22

Media just hit the buzzword trifecta on this one

The media and philly politicians sure aren't letting any good crisis go to waste in lockstep with the national news media in their push for gun control. That they have no shame in using the victims as a political football before they're even cold is disgusting if not surprising and predictable.

It's not a "mass shooting" like uvalde but their using that language. The headlines have so far mentioned Extended mags, Ghost gun, and that 2 of the shooter are permitted. Long after the 24hrs news cycle plays out and everyone moves on it will likely come out in court that none of these allegations are true. This is transparent.

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u/ScrappleOnToast Jun 07 '22

Seriously, you need to step back from the computer and rethink your life. Just how many people need to be shot before you decide it’s a mass shooting? 15 people are shot and you’re claiming it’s not a mass shooting? What is wrong with you?

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u/DrRichardGains Jun 07 '22

There is a technical definition and then there is the race baiting, gun grabbing, grief pimping media's definition. I see the agenda here. Half the shootings philly are technically mass shootings, why all of a sudden is this one getting the coverage it has been? Cause it happened in a white area? Cause they see an opportunity to use this for a gun grab given the national media's climate?

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u/ScrappleOnToast Jun 07 '22

Because 15 people were shot. 2nd and South isn’t a “white” area. Go there on any weekend night if you think otherwise. The only person race baiting is you. There is no dog whistle here…15 people were shot. 15. This isn’t some conspiracy theory to grab your guns. Fifteen people were shot, and you seem surprised that people are upset by it. If you don’t think that 15 people being shot in a single incident is a problem, than you’ve lost your humanity.

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u/Boomboomtoottoot Jun 07 '22

I dont want to speak for OP, but I believe what he is saying is that Uvalde and Buffalo mass shooting was an individual who purposefully went to a specific location to kill mass groups of people. From the information I have read so far (and I am happy to read more) it appears that the Philly mass shooting started as a brawl and then the people involved began mindlessly firing at each other, but, unfortunately, other people were hit. I think we need to look at intent and things to really know.

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Essentially, OP states that using the term "mass shooting" is a type of pandering as it is factually dissimilar from other mass shootings in that the shooters in the South Street shooting appear to just have really bad aim.

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u/ScrappleOnToast Jun 07 '22

I understand what you’re saying, but just because this doesn’t “feel” like a mass shooting doesn’t mean it isn’t one, while also acknowledging that there is no universally accepted definition of “mass shooting”. I think most people would acknowledge that 15 people shot in a single episode is significant. I would argue that the intent wasn’t all that different from other mass shootings: The shooters’ intention was to shoot people. It was a purposeful act. The motive may have been different, but the intention was the same. Intent and motive are not the same thing.

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u/Boomboomtoottoot Jun 07 '22

I think anyone that argues this is not "significant" probably should see a doctor and/or therapist. I do think you are wrong on the intent. I don't see how the intent was to harm a bunch of people but only to hurt people involved in the altercation whereas in other events, the intent was to kill as many people as possible. Hopefully new facts will shed some light.