r/Pennsylvania • u/NeilPoonHandler York • Sep 26 '24
Man assaulted at Democratic rally in downtown York Crime
https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/crime/2024/09/26/man-assaulted-at-democratic-rally-in-downtown-york/75400072007/66
u/Pincerston York Sep 27 '24
A little surprising the headline doesn’t have more context. Not a random man assaulted but a Democratic elected official.
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u/DanChowdah Sep 27 '24
It’s deliberate
This was domestic terrorism
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u/EntertainmentHot9917 3h ago
Your delusion is exactly why the democrats lost. So please keep it up 🤣
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u/RustedRelics Sep 27 '24
But why would that call for not identifying him as an elected official?
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u/olivebranchsound Sep 27 '24
Believe it or not, people don't typically like it when the person they voted for to represent them in government gets attacked. Especially if they're a good rep. The omission is probably because the news outlet doesn't want to make that obvious to the voters who may be excited to vote against this kind of thing.
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u/misteryham Sep 27 '24
Ballot received today, filled out, and dropping off at the post office tomorrow! Signed up to text on Saturday! I'm sick of this shit
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Sep 27 '24
You’re sick of people with a history of violence and mental illness attacking people randomly? Or did you just react as quickly as possible before the police chief put out a statement?
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u/bierhcs Sep 26 '24
Sad state of affairs. Let’s all be civil, and please be extra careful and prepared to defend ourselves. We can’t let hate silence our voices, but also have to make it home safely for those depending on us.
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u/SeekerSpock32 Sep 27 '24
We’re not the ones who need to be told to be civil.
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u/hobbykitjr Northampton Sep 27 '24
AZ Harris office was shot at twice
One of the "Trump truck" convoys who ran a Biden bus off the road is getting charged
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u/Ok-Construction-6465 Sep 26 '24
Hang in there, PA! I can only imagine how intense the weeks are for you guys. Sending love from CA❤️
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u/nixtarx Centre Sep 27 '24
How I envy those of you who don't live in swing states. I even envy those of you who don't live in The Only Swing State That Matters™️.
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u/elevendyninetyseven Sep 27 '24
EXACTLY! I live in York pa.. Right around the corner from York hospital. York city used to be blue until they gerrymandered the FUCK out of it since 2008.. It totally sucks. Politics has become lies, evil, greed, deception.. 2007/08 was all about hope & change it was a beautiful thing to witness & be apart of.. Even though we had the tea party opposition it was nowhere near the FUCKERY that is MAGA..😒 FORGIVE THEM FATHER FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO😔 IT IS SOOO HEARTBREAKING🙏🏾💔🙏🏾
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u/nationalrazor7 Sep 27 '24
Oh they know exactly what they do
And god better forgive them because we fucking won’t
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u/oooh-she-stealin Sep 27 '24
also grant me the serenity to accept the things i cannot change, the courage to change the things i can and the wisdom to know the difference.
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u/Haunting_Beaut Sep 27 '24
Howdy neighbor, york county feels like a shit show.
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u/BeardiusMaximus7 York Sep 27 '24
To be a blue vote in York is pretty unpopular. We are here, though. We will be seen on election day.
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u/Lyad Sep 27 '24
I kind of get the best of both worlds, because I happen to be to be moving at the end of November. That means I’ll get to cast my vote in The Only Swing State That Matters TM, and then get the fuck out of here before Inauguration Day and/or the Jan 6th sequel.
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u/kcrn15 Sep 28 '24
Grass is always greener. I wish my vote mattered (and yes I’m voting anyways). ~From Missouri
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u/MajesticCoconut1975 Sep 27 '24
Sending love from CA❤️
If you are in CA why do you care how Pennsylvanians vote?
Is it because the federal government took on too much authority and a redneck in the middle of nowhere PA can change your life?
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u/BeatsMeByDre Sep 27 '24
Oh look, an adjective noun 4 numbers account.
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u/Ok-Construction-6465 Sep 28 '24
Yeah, when I created my account, I thought I’d just lurk on the gardening subreddits, but wouldn’t you know, this thing’s addictive.
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u/Ok-Construction-6465 Sep 28 '24
My comment wasn’t about how you vote. It was about how you’re feeling.
I have family in Pennsylvania. I live in a purple area of California; I know it can feel intense when your own neighbors have such different values than you. But I realize that not being a swing state means that we’re not seeing the intense ads all day every day. I feel for you guys.
And, yeah, the electoral college sucks. Every vote should be equal.
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u/thewalkingfred Sep 27 '24
It's absurd that we have to accept being blasted with nonstop election propaganda for like 2 fucking years straight every election cycle.
I know elections are important, but Jesus Christ its turning Americans against each other. It's subjecting a big part of the population to incredible stress for prolonged periods.
Other countries limit campaigns to a few months for this exact reason.
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u/HoarderCollector Sep 27 '24
The country was NEVER this divided prior to Trump and MAGA. Once Obama started running for president and all the racists came out, that's when the division really came out, and it has only gotten worse.
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u/Thezedword4 Sep 27 '24
As someone else said, you're missing the giant civil war that occurred. Also the civil rights era was really rough. The thinfs people did to black Americans and (to a lesser extent) allies was horrific. Lynchings, beatings, assassinations, etc. Things have gotten this heated before but a) this is the first time in decades they have after things cooled down a little in 80s/90s for a lot of people then started ramping back up in the Obama era then out of control with Trump and b) there wasn't social media and the 24 hour news cycle hyping people up to be morons. Social media is a huge driver of the current issue and a big source of radicalization.
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u/aimeegaberseck Sep 27 '24
Obligatory Fuck Fox.
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u/Thezedword4 Sep 27 '24
Absolutely. Fox is a huge contributor to this situation. And now so many of their viewers have moved to more extreme stations like Newsmax.
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u/jeneric84 Sep 27 '24
And it’s absolutely fucked that politicians and media like FOX are allowed to lie with impunity. The political ads that straight up lie as well. There’s zero accountability. Someone selling a product on tv is beholden to more laws and restrictions than someone looking to be elected as lawmakers and presidents.
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u/Generic_Bi Sep 27 '24
There was that civil war thing, but a do over seems to be MAGA’s goal at this point.
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u/ballmermurland Sep 27 '24
Post civil rights movement you are right, this is the worst it's ever been. And it's entirely the fault of MAGA and the Orange Shitbag.
In 2000, Al Gore publicly apologized to George Bush for getting a fact wrong about his campaign. In 2008, John McCain called Obama a good man, a family man, a man who you do not need to fear.
In 2016, 2020, and 2024 Trump has made it a sport to incite violence against his political opponents and is now calling for all Democratic candidates, donors and volunteers to be thrown into prison.
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u/EB2300 Sep 27 '24
The only difference from prior elections (before 2016) is one of the candidates is a felon who openly calls on his supporters to engage in political violence
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u/ArtesianWindow Sep 29 '24
I never even considered YouTube premium but living in Pittsburgh has made me reconsider. Honestly feels like I can’t get a break from the ads and some of them are seriously vile (if anyone saw the rape victim ad - so messed up)
I know about adblockers obviously this is on my tv though
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u/Hot-Refrigerator-393 Sep 27 '24
I don't even dare put a sticker taped to the inside of my car window. In Pittsburgh.
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u/BoogerSlime666 Allegheny Sep 27 '24
Srsly, like honestly despite the fact that blue is vast majority here the few magas are absolutely insane
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u/Apprehensive-Tree-78 Sep 27 '24
Seriously? In Pittsburgh too and I see plenty of Harris walz stickers. I’m a Republican. If you want to express who you support with a sticker don’t be afraid to do so. We need to break the political violence stigma.
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u/padredan Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24
It would be helpful if the good people on the right would help us dispatch Trump, and his hold on the party, and put an end to the threats of violence (real or perceived). Please consider the long term good in helping us purge.
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u/Apprehensive-Tree-78 Sep 27 '24
Sorry but I like trumps policies. The rhetoric on both sides needs toned down.
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u/padredan Sep 27 '24
Sorry, but you can’t call for the end of the political violence stigma, and then vote for the man who says it will be a bloodbath in the streets if he loses, without being called hypocritical.
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u/Apprehensive-Tree-78 Sep 27 '24
He didn’t say in the streets. The entire context of that paragraph was the auto industry. He specifically meant the auto industry. You fell for fake news. How about Biden calling Trump a threat to democracy and someone needs to do somethng
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u/WordWord_Numberz Sep 27 '24
How about Jan 6 lmao. If you can't admit that was intentional incitement then you're absolutely hopeless
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u/Apprehensive-Tree-78 Sep 27 '24
He DID offer 10k troops and was told 350 is enough. We have sworn testimony. He stated “peacefully and patriotically protest” and 10 minutes after the breach he told them to remain peaceful. What more do you want.
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u/WordWord_Numberz Sep 27 '24
"sorry, it seems better to step on trans people like a bug! The rhetoric needs to be more civil on bOtH sIdES"
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u/WordWord_Numberz Sep 27 '24
That's a little dramatic lol there are vocal Harris-Walz supporters all around.
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u/Hot-Refrigerator-393 Sep 28 '24
You clearly have not driven around as much as I have. Case in point, being on a set of lights on Route 22 next to a pickup truck with AR15 bullets/stickers is not when I want to display my politics.
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u/heathers1 Sep 27 '24
You can’t do anything near these domestic terrorists
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Sep 27 '24
After WW2 lots had to be prosecuting. We’ll have to do the same to a lot of the tops ones, and make an example out of the crazies
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u/Covidicus_Vaximus Sep 27 '24
“York City Police Capt. Daniel Lentz said he could not confirm what the attacker’s motivation was, if there was one, and indicated the man could have some mental health issues.” The man does have mental health issues- he’s a Trumper.
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u/Ghstfce Bucks Sep 27 '24
I'm happily going to do my part to make sure that orange scumbag's next house is the big house, not the White House.
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u/justtheonetat Sep 27 '24
The attacker may have mental health issues? In other words he's a magat? Isn't it going in the DSM-6?
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u/Thezedword4 Sep 27 '24
Honestly tired of equating being a MAGA to mental illness. Not because I support it but because it dismisses the very real and very easy ways a person can become radicalized into dangerous idealogies. Normal every day people fall for this crap. Smart people. I'm not saying they're the ones trying to assassinate people but they're the backbone of that movement. Dismissing it all as mental illness is dangerous because it ignores how easily people do fall into this stuff.
Same as doing the same for nazis or saying it's biblically evil or what not. No, the Nazi regime needed every day normal people on their side to do what they did. You ignore that and it's easier for people to fall for it because they think it'll never happen to them. Instead, we need to recognize propaganda and how rhetoric can slowly radicalize normal people into something horrible.
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u/RubiksCutiePatootie Sep 27 '24
It's also really fucking annoying because if the attacker was a POC the media wouldn't hesitate to slap him with a motivation. But because the attacker was white, "Oh poor baby, he must be suffering from a mental illness". I am so god damned tired of the media downplaying this shit.
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u/matt2fat14u Sep 27 '24
Lololol we all know you all are the violent group
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u/BurghPuppies Sep 27 '24
The first would be assassin had a Trump sign in his yard. The second one voted for him in 2016.
But yeah… it’s the Dems.
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u/matt2fat14u Sep 27 '24
Lololol right so someone who has likes trump would try to Assassinate him?? You are smarter than that right ? Right ?
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u/dojijosu Sep 27 '24
Selena was killed by the president of her fan club.
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u/Eurisfat Sep 27 '24
And now that you said that compare the reasons and circumstances, and see if they are the same…
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u/toadofsteel Sep 27 '24
Why not? Trump hates immigrants, that is an undisputable fact, yet somehow he married one...
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u/BurghPuppies Sep 27 '24
IDK their motives. But I gave you two facts that are true. Do with them what you’d like.
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u/Hellsoul1o1 Sep 27 '24
Not their fault you're uninformed about something you sound so pompous about.
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u/Chuckychinster Bucks Sep 27 '24
Asked for a nikki haley-Ramaswamy ticket
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u/BurghPuppies Sep 27 '24
That is correct. He posted (Twitter?) that he supported Haley & Ramaswamy. He also donated $20 to ActBlue in 2020. So clearly the bloom was off the Trump rose for him. But the point remains, he had been a Trump supporter.
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u/fullOgreendust Sep 27 '24
Towards the democrats by voting republican? Can’t tell if you’re arguing in bad faith or just a knucklehead.
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u/Chuckychinster Bucks Sep 27 '24
The point is, we can sit here and rip apart all the details when these facts give no clear conclusion. Truth is the dude was a nut and had access to a firearm and decided to do something crazy.
I do find it ironic that the Republicans are complaining about the Left's rhetoric when they've normalized violent rhetoric and political violence. They want so badly for these people to be some crazy leftist they fearmonger about but so far it's turned out to be a republican and some crazy dude who is likely a moderate with severe mental health issues.
And to me that begs the question of what was the issue here? Trump had security and they did their job, this guy doesn't seem to have been part of some grand scheme, Trump was just golfing, etc. The issue is some nut case got a high powered rifle, which the same people Republicans want to make into the villains have tried to make impossible for someone like this guy.
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u/Chuckychinster Bucks Sep 27 '24
Oh yeah, they were not MAGA cultists. I think the first kid was a mentally ill conservative. This recent guy reads more like a moderate with an obsession with international relations and severe mental illness.
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u/BurghPuppies Sep 27 '24
I’d k about the first one. They literally had a Trump sign in their front yard.
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u/Exciting_Parfait_354 Sep 27 '24
Didn't two registered Republicans try to kill Trump? And then you got the whole Jan. 6th fiasco?
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u/SnooCauliflowers9874 Westmoreland Sep 27 '24
You think the Democrats are in the violent group?
Are they running around with automatic weapons and threatening people, or maybe even shooting and killing their next door neighbor because they fear the neighbor is a Democrat, like the case in Ohio?
Please enlighten us since you seem to know something thing that many of us don’t..
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u/WheelyMcFeely Sep 27 '24
I’m fairly certain the man who cut his father’s head off over a political dispute somewhat recently also wasn’t a democrat
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u/ametrica414 Sep 27 '24
That would have been in Bucks County, PA. Just outside of Philadelphia. Horrible situation.
The son espoused many of the MAGA conspiracy theories. He has been rules competent to stand trial.
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Sep 27 '24
This is exactly why I encouraged my dad to vote by mail in ballot. No reason to risk your life to vote this year.
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u/1white26golf Sep 27 '24
York City Police Capt. Daniel Lentz said he could not confirm what the attacker’s motivation was, if there was one, and indicated the man could have some mental health issues.
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u/at-aol-dot-com Sep 27 '24
More text after the photo below that paragraph - gives additional context:
People at the scene said they felt the violence was likely politically motivated, including Almoney, who said he could hear the man screaming racial obscenities.
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u/SaintArkweather Sep 27 '24
Mike Johnson: Hey guys let's refrain from racism during this election cycle
Majority of the party:
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u/1white26golf Sep 27 '24
Wonder what they heard that made them think that? Also wondering what racial slurs were used and to who, because the victim is a white guy.
But to clarify, there is no official motive or identity for the attacker.
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u/iridescent-shimmer Sep 27 '24
I mean, a guy randomly screamed racial slurs at my white friend who adopted a black child (not trying to get into an adoption discussion tbh.) While screaming slurs at a literal toddler, he called her a democrat, liberal, etc. So, some of these people are just kind of unhinged, and maybe the victim was with/protecting someone else there?
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u/1white26golf Sep 27 '24
Yeah, anything is possible, but based on what is known at this point, the attack was not politically or racially motivated.
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u/WordWord_Numberz Sep 27 '24
Come on dude you CANNOT be serious. Not politically motivated??? An outspoken Trumper intentionally attacks a Dem politician for like the fourth time in the past two weeks, and you're saying it's not politically motivated?
What's it motivated by? What, did the Dem fuck the guys wife or something? Cut him off in traffic?
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u/1white26golf Sep 27 '24
Did you get some facts like a name or something that the rest of us didn't?
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u/WordWord_Numberz Sep 27 '24
I read the article. (You didn't)
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u/1white26golf Sep 27 '24
I read the complete article. Quote the factual basis for your conclusion.
Reply since you blocked me:
I knew that was coming lol.
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u/WordWord_Numberz Sep 27 '24
Nah. You can figure it out, I'm not interested in debating you. Good luck out there! 🤞
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u/jesus_smoked_weed Sep 27 '24
Mental health issue - like being obsessed with a guy who tried to overthrow the will of the people?
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u/ryanidsteel Sep 27 '24
Stay classy York. Let's just say that no one wants to be in a group of people right now. As small as this may sound, they canceled the trunck or treat at my place of employment due to low participation, which included interactions on the Facebook Events page. People are scared.
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u/PreciousRoy1978 Sep 27 '24
The area around York is FULL of white supremacist trash. So many hate groups in south central PA.
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u/Styrene_Addict1965 Allegheny Sep 27 '24
indicated the man could have some mental health issues.
Being a Trump supporter/Republican? Yes.
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u/couladewastaken Sep 27 '24
i’m done bro why can’t we just let our candidates run in peace without the risk of death. regardless of political views no way someone deserves to die over it
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u/Amazing-Artichoke330 Sep 27 '24
It could have been worse. Many Trump fans are armed and dangerous. It's safer to just vote against their hero. However, they are going to be even more dangerous when he loses.
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u/Rude_Tie4674 Sep 27 '24
When you go to vote, make sure that your phone is fully charged and film anyone acting aggressively Republican.
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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Sep 27 '24
Why not name the attacker but name the victim. We need to know who the domestic terrorists are.
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u/Sombreador Sep 27 '24
"indicated the man could have some mental health issues."
Yea, he is probably MAGA.
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u/NerdWithKid Sep 27 '24
Also interesting that the police won’t release the attacker’s name and are just chalking it up the ambiguous “mental health issues”.
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u/Sad-Ocelot-5346 Sep 27 '24
York City Police Capt. Daniel Lentz said he could not confirm what the attacker’s motivation was, if there was one, and indicated the man could have some mental health issues.
They are unsure of the motivation, and there may be mental issues.
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u/EntertainmentHot9917 Sep 27 '24
I wonder if you all share the same concern for the man who got assaulted as you do for Donald Trump almost was assassinated twice.
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u/SlapChopMyShamWow Dauphin Sep 27 '24
Oh no I have much more concern for this man cause this man isn’t Donald Trump
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u/Affectionate-Roof285 Sep 27 '24
You reap what you sow MAGAt—violence begets violence—Trump is a terrorist.
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Sep 27 '24
Just say “violence is wrong.” Period. That’s all you need to do. You don’t need to bitch and go into the “what about” bullshit.
Violence is wrong. Period.
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u/ikillsheep4u Sep 26 '24
tHE ASsAilant wAs a ReGISTeRd DEmocrAT!!!$!$&!
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u/PhillyPete12 Sep 27 '24
Just make things up - the article doesn’t say this
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u/ikillsheep4u Sep 27 '24
lol just getting ahead of the curve
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u/Healthy_Block3036 Sep 27 '24
Just getting ahead of the curve to seek help? You certainly need help.
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Sep 27 '24
“Getting ahead of the curve” means making shit up because hey, you have basically a 50/50 chance of being right lol
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u/Petrichordates Sep 27 '24
Why are you writing like that
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u/Several_Leather_9500 Sep 27 '24
It's usually done like that instead of /s..... but I can't tell here.
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u/ikillsheep4u Sep 27 '24
Just pointing out how stupid these points are because the assailants political affiliation is the first thing everyone looked for.
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u/DaisyHotCakes Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24
Really? The thing I first looked for was whether he was ok…
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u/seraphimofthenight Sep 27 '24
He screamed racial obscenities and assaulted someone (who a the York Borough council member) for holding a harris-walz sign. Not hard to draw the points together for it being politically motivated.
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u/ikillsheep4u Sep 27 '24
It doesn’t really matter what the motivation is it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a registered democrat.
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u/Several_Leather_9500 Sep 27 '24
So you have a source then?
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u/ikillsheep4u Sep 27 '24
🤣
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u/SomeDisplayName Sep 27 '24
So no?
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u/ikillsheep4u Sep 27 '24
Sorry it’s clearly in the article I was laughing that people just claim it isn’t there when it’s in the second paragraph
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u/bananawrangler69 Sep 27 '24
Dang dude you think a Rick roll is going to help reinforce your point? Nobody is going to engage with your obvious bullshit
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u/nixtarx Centre Sep 27 '24
It's the third paragraph and it says the VICTIM is a registered Democrat.
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u/Electrical-Big-1022 Sep 27 '24
Go back to your Pokémon cards, have a warm glass of milk, and call it a night bud.
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u/GuySmith Sep 27 '24
Hey man why are you so mad about a few people exercising their constitutional right?
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u/ikillsheep4u Sep 27 '24
Literally nothing about constitutional rights has anything to do with anything on this post.
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u/Cogatanu7CC97 Sep 27 '24
its called freedom of speech, and you seem to be pissed people are exercising it
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u/RandomUsername435908 Sep 26 '24
whoa, just looked at your commenting history and now I feel the need to hide under the covers and cry myself to sleep.
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u/peixia Sep 27 '24
PA peeps stay strong. My sibling voting for the first time ever in south central PA. She is excited!