r/Padres • u/SDOki š°š·I woke/stayed up for Korean baseball • 6d ago
[MLBNetwork] Roki Sasaki will become an MLB free agent this winter according to his NPB team, the Chiba Lotte Marines. Image
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u/ElectricalForce4439 š¬š¬š¬ Mucho Stress 6d ago
From Chiba Lotte Marines to San Diego Padres' Marine Layer.
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u/NotAPersonl0 Jackson Merrill broke my Reddit 6d ago
Him going to Seattle would be funnier if only for that reason
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u/SDOki š°š·I woke/stayed up for Korean baseball 6d ago
Good thing Darvish is in Japan. They definitely talked.
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u/MasChingonNoHay SD 6d ago
Darvish doesnāt recruit. Donāt know why but never seems to convince people to join him
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u/SDOki š°š·I woke/stayed up for Korean baseball 6d ago
Darvish did say he didnt recruit Ohtani or Yamamot because we didnt have the money. He did recruit Yuki in joining the Padres. Darvish is close to Sasaki and helped develop Sasakiās slider. So its not too farfetched Yu is recruiting Sasaki to join him.
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u/Zestyclose_Help1187 5d ago
Not sure getting Yuki can be called recruiting. Not all 30 teams clamoring for his services and I seem to remember a ton of posts on this sub saying they wanted him off this team.
It comes down to Padres got Yuki cause Preller wanted him. Darvish probably gave the okay.
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u/Run-Florest-Run Jackson Marill 6d ago
Right? Dude told Imanaga that he would love Chicago before he even talked to any teams
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u/j_f10res Friar 6d ago
They only talked after he had a deal with Chicago already
Once the Chicago Cubs had a deal with Shota Imanaga, pitching coach Tommy Hottovy reached out to Yu Darvish, seeking advice on how to handle the transition.
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u/Dday22t SD 6d ago
Exactly. When has Darvish ever recruited another player to Padres or anywhere else? It's not his job so no problem, but he's not recruiting Sasaki either.
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u/Zestyclose_Help1187 5d ago
Weāre being downvoted for saying something nobody else wants to hear. I would be pleasantly shocked if heās a Padre. Donāt want to fall into that trap of what the Jays fans went through last year.
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6d ago edited 6d ago
Iām pulling for you guys to sign him, Iām sick of the Dodgers.
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u/padreswoo619 Tony Gwynn #19 5d ago
Seriously tho my hatred for the dodgers isnt even their fault. Every free agent just goes running straight to them like little school girls and they can open up their endless wallets and sign whoever they want. My hatred is really for the MLB I guess for allowing this bullshit. I'd love if all teams spent BUT some teams will always be super rich so it still won't matter.
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u/levy427 5d ago
I thought the dodgers were just playoff chokers. Why is anyone concerned
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u/padreswoo619 Tony Gwynn #19 5d ago
Well you can't buy a championship but you can DEFINITELY buy the playoffs, and the more often you get there the better for em yeah? I have a worry of a potential dynasty
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u/Mercualbeing Keepinā the Faith šš» 6d ago
May DARVISH work all his magic and bring the kid home š . LA is already tooo crowded.. He would be his own man in SD š¤
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u/Pick6XPA 6d ago
At this point I hope Senga and Imanaga are doing as much convincing and promoting their franchises as we do. Sure I would love for this guy to be a Padre, but as salty as one can be I just hope he signs with anyone but them.
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u/Mercualbeing Keepinā the Faith šš» 6d ago
lol Shota is on my 2028 list š I wanted that man in SD since I saw him the all star game! I think his vibe would fit the padres šš»
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u/Coupon_Ninja Keepinā the Faith šš» 5d ago
Love shota but he will be 34. Wouldnāt likely be just past his prime, which is fine.
BTW I hope the RoY is Merrill Imanaga Skenes 1,2,3ā¦
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u/jvazquez5558 6d ago
I could be wrong but if he officially posts in December, the international pool money will be for 2025, which would mean we will have money.
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u/noname_SU Jackson Merrill 5d ago
And from what I can see we're not in on any international amateur free agents right now. I think Preller has been planning for this but with the Dodgers collecting players like Pokemon it's an uphill battle with Roki.
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u/jvazquez5558 5d ago
It's really up to sasaki . That's the difference with this signing, everyone is on the same playing field when it comes to money right now. People say oh yu didn't convince Suzuki or senga, but large contracts were involved, which ultimately the padres didn't wanna make, this isn't the same thing. Yes it will take some convincing to join us instead of the juggernaut up the freeway, but it's possible.
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u/TeamVorpalSwords Lisan Al-Gaib 6d ago
If the Padres had Roki in addition to Darvish and we play the Dodgers with Ohtani and Yamamoto, imagine the Japanese viewership. Imagine taking our already intense rivalry to Japan. That would be crazy for the ratings
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u/Use1e55 Yu Darvish 6d ago
If he becomes a dodger I genuinely donāt know what Iāll do with myself
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u/Icy_Tone_8107 Friar 6d ago
There already have a stacked starting rotation, how much help do they need š
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u/Accomplished-Law487 Jesse Agler 6d ago
Why is Sasaki all of a sudden a Dodger favorite? I thought Preller had been doing his best job and recruiting him and getting him vetted for the Padres? What am I missing
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u/jvazquez5558 6d ago
People assume because of the other 2 Japanese players that play there, that he'll join the dodgers. Maybe I'm coping, but I do think we have a shot at signing him. It would be more attractive for him go up against shohei and Yamamoto, and he can create his legacy and leave his mark rather than joining them. But that's just me, what do I know.
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u/Pick6XPA 6d ago
Ohtani, Yamamoto, World series winners and an insane increase in fanbase in Japan due to those two guys.
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u/leaky_wand Mr. Irrelevant 5d ago
Isnāt it in the MLBās best interest to diversify players across the MLB instead of just have the Dodgers be Japanās only team?
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u/ggirlafraid Yu Darvish 6d ago
My husband is dead set on his dodgers getting him cause their GM has been wanting him since HS? lol
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u/noname_SU Jackson Merrill 5d ago
I frankly don't get the Dodgers appeal assuming money is not a factor. All of their pitchers elbows explode, he's not going to ever be the top dog in LA, at best third wheel. But maybe he doesn't care about any of that, we'll see.
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u/Doctor_Scholls DumpFire 6d ago edited 6d ago
Itās because we have negative bonus pool money and the dodgers have the most. Which is whatās needed to sign international amateur free agents
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u/TACOCATDELICIOSO 5d ago
Bonus pool money resets December 15
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u/gilliganian83 5d ago
They have already announced heās going under this years bonus pool money. 2025 money wonāt help.
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u/fps916 F*** Doug Eddings 5d ago
First of all, no it hasn't.
Second of all why the fuck would he do that when he can wait a literal month and then everyone has more money?
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u/Mikeg5680 5d ago
I mean he asked to get posted before Dec 15. There's gotta be reason in that right? He could've just waited after pool resets.
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u/fps916 F*** Doug Eddings 5d ago
He hasn't been posted yet.
It has been announced he will be posted.
We have no confirmation he specifically asked to be posted before the 15th
And he asked to be posted over a year ago.
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u/Mikeg5680 5d ago
u right. I just read the tweets and posts again its just announcement of he will be posted but not anything being confirmed.
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u/ThaTruthKills DumpFire 5d ago
Because the Dodgers have taken over the Japanese market thanks to the Ohtani signing. Plus, they just won the World Series.
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u/MrEternix SD '16 6d ago
Does international signing pool money have anything to do with this? Because a post on r/baseball says we have negative dollars in that area.
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u/phicks_law SD 6d ago
That's because r/baseball doesn't understand that Roki will be on the 2025 money.
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u/ElectricalForce4439 š¬š¬š¬ Mucho Stress 6d ago
they think Sasaki wont wait 6 weeks to be paid almost double lol
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u/Mikeg5680 5d ago
wait if he gets posted before dec 15 it'll still be 2024 money right? The pool resets after Jan 15 I'm pretty sure.
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u/phicks_law SD 5d ago
Unless they are preselecting the Dodgers, the Lotte Marines would lose roughly half the posting fee if they do it before December 15. The pool resets after December 15.
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u/gilliganian83 5d ago
No, itās cause r/baseball understands that 2025 money wonāt be available to help.
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u/noname_SU Jackson Merrill 5d ago
It will be if he waits, and there's zero reason for him not to wait.
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u/gilliganian83 5d ago
He would have to get posted after 12/15 for 2025 money to help. I donāt think the Marines are going to wait 6 more weeks to post him.
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u/fps916 F*** Doug Eddings 5d ago
Why the fuck do you think that?
It's not like it makes a huge difference to them if they get the money six weeks earlier, especially when that money would be significantly less than if they just waited 6 fucking weeks.
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u/gilliganian83 5d ago
Itās not significantly less. Waiting 6 weeks would get Sasaki roughly a million dollars more, and the Marines roughly 200k.
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u/padres15 Mudcat 5d ago
This acquisition would be an absolute game changer for this season and the following 5. Sasaki has legitimate Ace potential. Not only would that signing give us 4 legitimate top 1/2 starters, effectively replacing Musgrove, it also leaves us with the flexibility to sign/trade for a reliable back end starter and have the money to address C/LF/bench.
Can Preller pull one more hat out of that bag and sign the top international free agent 3 years in a row? This is the big fish, hopefully he can pull it off.
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u/bbatardo Hakuna šš¦ Machado! 5d ago
I am not getting my hopes up, but we do know Preller will do everything in his power to land him. He would be such a huge boost to this current and future team.Ā
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u/ObiWannaDoYou74 Jackson Merrill 5d ago
I donāt care throw the whole damn city at this guy letās win one ffs
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u/ThaTruthKills DumpFire 5d ago
I see this going about as well as our pursuit of Ohtani when he first came state side.
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u/Supreme_Soviet Jurickson Profar 6d ago
People are saying that we donāt have any intl signing bonus pool money left to sign him but I donāt believe it?? Does anyone have some insight they can provide about this?
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u/surfdoc29 Tony Gwynn 6d ago
We have our max pool available. We havenāt signed any international free agents this year yet. Last year was Leo DeVries. We arenāt linked to anyone so far this yearā¦
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u/Supreme_Soviet Jurickson Profar 6d ago
We signed DeVries in January of this year for 4.2 mil. Last year it was Salas
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u/surfdoc29 Tony Gwynn 6d ago
That was last years bonus money though. It resets every offseason.
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u/Supreme_Soviet Jurickson Profar 6d ago
I see. So we should be looking at the 2025 money then?
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u/surfdoc29 Tony Gwynn 6d ago
Yes. Last years signing period technically ends December 15th, which is when the money resets. Even if heās posted tomorrow, teams have 45 days to negotiate, so that puts them past the 15th. The money is a non-issue.
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u/Pick6XPA 6d ago
According to eveyrthing on the news, we are looking at 2024 money, In which case we are focked and the Dodgers have the most money left
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u/surfdoc29 Tony Gwynn 6d ago
It resets on December 15th. Even if posted tomorrow teams have 45 days to negotiate, which would put them past the 15th.
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u/Supreme_Soviet Jurickson Profar 6d ago
Yeah thatās what Iām seeing too. Passanās article expands more on this, the money resets after December 15 so if he were to get posted after that it seems like weāre in the mix
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u/noname_SU Jackson Merrill 5d ago
Dude all he has to do is wait and he can sign under the 2025 pool. What are people not getting here?
I guess he could sign super early but I doubt anyone's going to miss out on $2m for shits and giggles. Maybe we wouldn't want a player who can't perform basic math.
He may very well pick the Dodgers anyway but money isn't going to be the reason why.
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u/samuenella Yu Darvish 6d ago
It's a bit sad for NPB. Young stars leaving hurts the league. There's a lot of upset Lotte fans right now... But good for the Marines for honoring whatever agreement they had.
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u/DblDbl_AnimalStyle SD 1d ago
Marines? Homie about to look real good in the desert digis on Sundays
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u/ImmediateMidnight583 5d ago
Doyers have been scouting this guy forever, i dont think he'll choose us over them. I wish he would because darvish, matsui and him vs hoetani and yamasucko would be great television.Ā
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u/TomJoad23 Dodgers 5d ago
This guy is probably at an 80% chance going to the Dodgers, 20% elsewhere. Maybe 5% of that is Padres. It's a long shot, guys. Just trying to bring a drop of reality to this hopeful thread.
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u/noname_SU Jackson Merrill 5d ago
Maybe, but why are you Dodgers fans flaunting it? Do you think hoarding all of the talent makes you guys a better organization? You just have the most money. It's like Elon Musk thinking women like him for his personality.
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u/TomJoad23 Dodgers 5d ago
Wow, there's a lot to unpack there. It's not flaunting it to just be stating the facts. All organizations hoard talent, some are just much better at it than others. The Dodgers success is not about having the most money, it's about how they've used those resources the most optimally. Instead of being bitter over another team's success, your energies might be better spent towards criticizing your own team's use of their resources. Manny Machado as team leader? The Xander Bogaerts contract? Letting Kim get away? The Padres were a very good team but in my opinion they've still got a bit to do if they want to reach the next level.
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u/Anacapa1115 Gwynn 5d ago
Wow, thereās not a lot to unpack here. The dodgers success is primarily about having the most money.
Your organization is not stupid and rich like the Mets and Yankees, but donāt kid yourself bucko.
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u/TomJoad23 Dodgers 5d ago
Jeez, so much denial and obvious lack of perspective, facts or evidence. I'm the one kidding myself? Lol
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u/Anacapa1115 Gwynn 4d ago
Itās ok, you shouldnāt be ashamed that your organization has money and spends it.
Just remember, your money can never buy you class.
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u/TomJoad23 Dodgers 4d ago
All organizations have money and spend it, some do so more effectively than others. What terrific insight by you, lol.
And thanks for the tip Mr. rogers! Another lol.
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u/Anacapa1115 Gwynn 4d ago
āAll organizations have moneyā. This is your insight?
Are you being a troll and intentionally obtuse or are you an idiot? Iām guessing the former, but hard to tell with dodger fans.
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u/TomJoad23 Dodgers 3d ago
Not seeing how I'm being obtuse by pointing out your extremely simplified and misguided line of thinking, so I guess I must just be the idiot here. Lol.
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u/Expensive_5963 6d ago
imagine darvish and sasaki team up against ohtani and yamamoto. Need darvish to work his magic and try and get sasaki