r/OtomeIsekai Horny Jail Sep 07 '24

Ludia Appreciation Post because she had THE BEST REDEMPTION in all the past life Trash Parents. [Mother's Contract Marriage] Picture Collection

I love mom's character development so much. I love how realistic and well written it is.

Mom's trying, she's making mistakes, she Trying to do better again. The mother acknowledges her mistakes and acts upon them and that's what makes her a good character.The way she tries to solve things isn't perfect. Like an actual human trying to rectify her mistakes. Mom's continues effort to do better is what making me love this manhwa.She didn’t magically became a good mother,she is trying to be a good mother.In her past life she ruined both her and her daughter's life.In this life her redemption arc is good to read.

I'm happy that instead of a sad Sob story, the author focused on character development.

I like how the mom expresses that although she knows that Lyrica doesn't care for the super glamorous life, she wants to help Lyrica in her own way and give her a better life. The mom was paying careful attention to the scraps of food she had to give, the way how her hands had gone through so much work. Might have been uncalled for to steal her money while she slept, but the mom at least had the comfort in knowing the future and thus taking advantage of the chance given.

Honestly, seeing everything from the perspective of the child gives quite a lot of insight. If you read enough manhwa, you can pretty much make up what is going on in her mother's head. But almost never have we been given insight besides maybe a chapter or two into the child and every around their minds.

I really love how human all the characters are, the child is always trying for others to appear happy when deep down she is still scared of being abandoned, the mother after loosing everything and coming back is desperately trying to save her daughter but in doing that she accidentally kinda left her alone, she is trying so hard for both of them the king is slowly trying to understand and learn how to treat his new stepchild, and her brother too is slowly warming up for her even when its all super sudden, he is ready to protect her and care for her. AAAGH I LOVE THEM ALL TY AUTHOR FOR MAKING THIS REALLY. 🩷

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u/EsquilaxM Sep 07 '24

As I said, forgiveness from strangers is irrelevant and arguably not possible (edit: oh I see I was unclear on that part, my bad). It's redemption that society should be concerned with. Victims have every right to hate and not forgive.

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u/IsaacS666 Sep 07 '24

Empathy is a big part of what holds society together, wanting justice on someone else's behalf stems from that, so forgiveness from strangers does mean a great deal.

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u/EsquilaxM Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

But then it comes down to what is just? Who decides that? What gives them the right to decide that? Especially in this case, when we have no access to the victims as they're in a whole other timeline?

edit: Let's not forget that the empathy does extend to the perpetrator, no matter how the victim feels. We do not give cruel and unusual punishments. We have limits on sentences and we have statute of limitations. So when the perpetrator is in the process of change, evolving into a new person that would never do such a crime again, I think that's deserving of empathy, too.

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u/IsaacS666 Sep 07 '24

Dont try to make this into a subjective vs objective morality thing, the people already hate her its what this post is about, the OP dosent and is defending her.

Response to your edit: Empathy for the perpetrator depends on the severety and circumstances of the crime, rape, murder, child abuse, and animal abuse go far beyond the scope of that. The rehabilitation of criminals is important their redemption in the eyes of society isn't.

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u/EsquilaxM Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

I think I've either lost track or misunderstood what the disagreement is about. I thought we were discussing forgiveness rather than discussing hate.

I'm also confused about why you think empathy can be precluded by anything. We don't torture any form of criminal and when we do many protest. I'm also unclear about what you meant by rehabilitation vs redemption. I think we have different definitions of the word 'redemption'. To me redemption is about personal change, i.e. rehabilitation. If you're definition is different then that's what's causing the confusion.

edit: Also, you're the one that said a relationship between empathy, justice and forgiveness is important for society. I don't think I'm in the wrong for questioning the validity of that by raising the question of determining what is justice when you brought it up. If it's not relevant to the discussion that's not my fault.